Someone in this thread mentioned France...(LQ?) It could be they're heading to Mick's "shed" in the Loire Valley to write some songs, start rehearsing for the Asian tour and discuss dates, places and PR. (I can hardly see that they'll do shows in France now, but you never know. If a local club in Tours advertises a band you never heard of... )

They've not got "Prince" Rupert any more. There are decissions to be made etc.
But if you live around Tours in the Loire Valley, perhaps you can find out if interesting people come in through the local airport? Or they could be heading for Paris and the George V, where they sometimes meet to settle details before tours. Met them there in March 2003 when they were discussing the Licks tour.

Rip This Wrote:
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>> Keith added that he was going to look at left
> over/passed over bits from the ABB sesssions and
> that there was enough material that could be used
> towards a Wino's project.

I'd take that with a huge grain of salt, in all honesty.

little queenie Wrote:
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> how's this for the first rumor? a friend who sees
> them regularly heard today from his friend that
> they'll play in france next week! not worth
> starting a thread, but worth a mention, i think.
> just in case it happens.

No rumor could be better...

Gazza Wrote:
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> I'd take that with a huge grain of salt, in all
> honesty.


Hard to imagine that he had extra stuff from ABB certainly....but the intimation was clear.....that they (Keith and Jordan) were probably.....most likely.....certainly.....going to do something and it sounded like it was more sooner than later. That in essence was the "news" from the entire interview.....the rest of it was re hashed stories.....

Rip This Wrote:
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> ........my take............after listening to
> Keith being interviewed on Sirius by Steve Jordan
> last week........ it sounded like the Stones were
> going dormant and that Keith was starting to look
> forward towards Wino projects.......

thats keiths standard "hope" after each stones tour! what has to be understood is that most of the time he's noodling about with musicians when the band are off the road-- doesn't mean the public or even the rest of the people at the session will get to hear the result!

OLDKR

OLDKR



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Rip This Wrote:
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> Gazza Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > I'd take that with a huge grain of salt, in all
> > honesty.
>

> they (Keith and Jordan) were probably going to do something and
> it sounded like it was more sooner than later.
> That in essence was the "news" from the entire
> interview.....the rest of it was re hashed
> stories.....


I must agree with RIP, I have listened to the interview 3 times now.
But I think GAZ is doubtful because of the pretty much known for a while tours in Asia and the USA. That along with (and because of) the movie. They WILL do some sort of promo for the film, maybe a talk show or *GASP* American Idol.

I think BOTH
I think the Stones are going to do some down time after this movie push. Thats when KR will get the jones to jam and the Winos project will come together. maby Winos in '09

then in '11, the machine is moving again for the 50th anni tour

this is really kinda what I have been feeling even before the Sirius interview.

RadioMarv Wrote:
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> then in '11, the machine is moving again for the
> 50th anni tour

This is sheer fantasy.

I laugh at the notion of "The Machine" functioning at all in 2011. Time is moving on very fast, and it is passing these guys by. Mick might do something then, but I simply don't see any of the others being physically and/or mentally capable of mounting a tour then. You've already seen the last of the big Stones tours.

Anything that you get from this point on will be along the line of Led Zeppelin's one-shot deal earlier this month, maybe a few of those in big big cities....but the days of major tours are over.

I agree with radiomarv on this one, the stones will without a doubt be doing a fifty year tour of some kind, of course providing they dont croke in the meantime, but other than that its a lock as far as i can see

RadioMarv Wrote:
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> Rip This Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gazza Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > I'd take that with a huge grain of salt, in
> all
> > > honesty.
> >
>
> > they (Keith and Jordan) were probably going to
> do something and
> > it sounded like it was more sooner than later.
> > That in essence was the "news" from the entire
> > interview.....the rest of it was re hashed
> > stories.....
>
>
> I must agree with RIP, I have listened to the
> interview 3 times now.
> But I think GAZ is doubtful because of the pretty
> much known for a while tours in Asia and the USA.
> That along with (and because of) the movie.

My doubts are based more on Keith's lack of songwriting in the last decade more than anything else. I cant see him hanging on to a multitude of songs over a period of years for a Winos project when he's not exactly been churning them out prolifically for the Stones.

They
> WILL do some sort of promo for the film, maybe a
> talk show or *GASP* American Idol.

They wont do American Idol, or even the (original) UK equivalent. Jesus wept, Marv - are you trying to give me a coronary? LOL. They'll tour in the spring because it's what they do and they're not going to just disappear for years on end anymore. Promoting a film is a convenient excuse, but not to be taken TOO literally as the 'reason' for touring. After all, it's hardly going to be a major blockbuster and will probably be gone from the theatres in a couple of weeks.

Gazza Wrote:
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> After all, it's hardly going to be a
> major blockbuster and will probably be gone from
> the theatres in a couple of weeks.

That's for sure.

It might be a great film, but I'd be shocked if it played anything more than a few big city arthouses. The only chance this has to be profitable is DVD sales, and the Stones know it.

Remember, even when the Stones were legitimately the greatest rock and roll band in the world in 1974, "Ladies and Gentlemen" tanked in the theaters.

highanddry Wrote:
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> Gazza Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > After all, it's hardly going to be a
> > major blockbuster and will probably be gone
> from
> > the theatres in a couple of weeks.
>
> That's for sure.
>
> It might be a great film, but I'd be shocked if it
> played anything more than a few big city
> arthouses. The only chance this has to be
> profitable is DVD sales, and the Stones know it.
>
> Remember, even when the Stones were legitimately
> the greatest rock and roll band in the world in
> 1974, "Ladies and Gentlemen" tanked in the
> theaters.

Wait! I thought this was going to be an IMAX film.

[www.imax.com]

"IMAX Corporation, Paramount Pictures, Shangri-La Entertainment and Concert Productions International announced that the highly anticipated Rolling Stones concert film Shine A Light, directed by Academy Award-winning filmmaker Martin Scorsese, will be released to IMAX theatres simultaneously with the film’s wide release on September 21, 2007. Shine A Light will be digitally re-mastered into the unparalleled image and sound quality of The IMAX Experience with IMAX DMR (Digital Re-Mastering) technology."

well, obviously the first announced September release didn't work out with promotion and prints etc...but i would guess the rest of it still stands.

interesting tech nuggets from hippiesounds.com:
"IMAX officially announced that Shine A Light will be digitally re-mastered and released in IMAX theaters simultaneous with it’s release to basic theater venues. While the Stones in IMAX form isn’t new, Shine A Light will likely break records. Rolling Stones At The Max grossed $21.4 million or so and that was before IMAX was the IMAX we know today. IMAX is far more commercial now having moved out of only museums to widespread availability. Large format IMAX cameras were used the last time; this time the film is actually being converted to IMAX using DMR."

so i guess that tells the story as far as i've heard it...simultaneous general theatrical release along with Imax release...i can't hazard an intelligent guess as to how long this will run at specialty venues like Imax, or how many months into '08 will elapse before they market the DVD version...or if they will do any cross promotion etc...



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I hope it comes out in imax, I saw the last imax steel wheels show a bunch. I first saw it at the imax in LA next to the colisium by USC a few times. Then i lived in Hawaii off and on for awhile and they have a imax in Honolulu, I used to get my Stones fix with my buddy Arnie that i've seen every tour with since 81 except Lick's. We would see it like 3 times aweek for like 6 month's, yes that's right 6 month's i think it played there for about a year maybe more. Hawaii is so laid back we would either sneak in beers or a bottle every time and get ripped don't forget the fatties those were the day's!!!!



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Protect Gazza's heart - don't mention the I-word!

There's absolutely no chance the Stones will appear on that programme. They all hate it. But one thing that very well could happen: The contestants are asked to sing a Stones-song. But they would not need Mick and Keith's authorization to do that. They get their money every time someone, talented or not (in Idol - mostly NOT), sings one of their songs in public.

gstone Wrote:
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> Protect Gazza's heart - don't mention the I-word!
>
>
> There's absolutely no chance the Stones will
> appear on that programme. They all hate it. But
> one thing that very well could happen: The
> contestants are asked to sing a Stones-song. But
> they would not need Mick and Keith's authorization
> to do that. They get their money every time
> someone, talented or not (in Idol - mostly NOT),
> sings one of their songs in public.



Hey Now

I HOPE to god they would not be on Idol... but I could see it.
Maybe just MJ or as the one poster said... a STONES night on Idol.

I like GAZ so I can only hope this does not happen or if it does... his heart is strong enuff.

I think the band should appear on 'Idle', after all they've not been all that active over the last few weeks........oh it's 'Idol' is it?

Everyone should know by now the only true Idol is the worshipped Plexiglass, who alone may know what destiny lay in our hands.

Let us pray...

Lots of conflicting information from various sources about a shine a light mini-tour.
We heard of a few possible US dates in April time frame, and Mick himself was quoted in an interview saying some possible shows in Asia to include Japan this spring.
I've heard from rock n' roll insiders that the O2 shows were the Stones last shows (worst case scenario) however they didn't publicly announce it. All the Stones children on stage for the O2 finale was a very strong hint though.

Hopefully, there are more shows forthcoming and if so, details should be announced soon as Spring is just around the corner.

barking paul Wrote:
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> I think the band should appear on 'Idle', after
> all they've not been all that active over the last
> few weeks........oh it's 'Idol' is it?
>
> Everyone should know by now the only true Idol is
> the worshipped Plexiglass, who alone may know what
> destiny lay in our hands.
>
> Let us pray...


Amen Brother Barking! Your faith is strong! You are an example to the masses.

The Plexiglass Himself will reveal the Truth in the fullness of time, but only then, and not according to our worldly needs and desires.


P

NumberOneStonesFan Wrote:
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> Lots of conflicting information from various
> sources about a shine a light mini-tour.
> We heard of a few possible US dates in April time
> frame, and Mick himself was quoted in an interview
> saying some possible shows in Asia to include
> Japan this spring.
> I've heard from rock n' roll insiders that the O2
> shows were the Stones last shows (worst case
> scenario) however they didn't publicly announce
> it.

Personally I'd believe people who have an inside source on the Stones themselves before I'd take the word of "rock n roll insiders", whatever THAT means. These shows get planned several months in advance. Those plans have been afoot since around the time the last tour ended - commissiiong new stage designs, and the like.


All the Stones children on stage for the O2
> finale was a very strong hint though.

They werent onstage for the "finale"..they were onstage during Sympathy For The Devil (unless youre talking about the show itself being the tour 'finale', which is correct). And its not unprecedented. They had a few kids onstage on the last BTB show as well.....it's a standard end of tour procedure for the Stones (and other acts) to do something like that. Bill Wyman was at the show that same night and HE didnt perform with them. I'd have personally seen it as more significant in terms of a final show had he done so.

Well, I hope you're right and if you can work some insider magic, please get them to play 3 shows (1 show is fine too) at Blaisdell Arena in Honolulu! If it happens and you attend, I'll buy your drinks during "Miss You", LSTNT and/or during any ABB song.

LOL..and I'll buy yours during that Beatles medley.

I'm not claiming to be an 'insider' personally (unfortunately) but I'm just going by what I'd heard from people who seem to be. That said, things HAVE been very quiet on that front for a couple of months.

Like I said before, I hope Hawaii gets a show as you were unceremoniously and unapologetically shafted in 2006. What talk I have heard has consistently mentioned a small number of shows (eg 15-20) in MAJOR markets, though. I dont envisage return visits to Boise, Missoula and the like in any 2008 run.

Hoping for MSG & Philly!!

Bring the boys back to the BAY!

highanddry Wrote:
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> Gazza Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > After all, it's hardly going to be a
> > major blockbuster and will probably be gone
> from
> > the theatres in a couple of weeks.
>
> That's for sure.
>
> It might be a great film, but I'd be shocked if it
> played anything more than a few big city
> arthouses. The only chance this has to be
> profitable is DVD sales, and the Stones know it.
>
> Remember, even when the Stones were legitimately
> the greatest rock and roll band in the world in
> 1974, "Ladies and Gentlemen" tanked in the
> theaters.

i know a few people who are not stones fans but heard about the movie, saw the trailer, and are excited. it's the fact that scorcese is director that's going to interest a lot outside our circle.

I would *think* so, although I met a Stones fan at the Beacon who had declared online (not here) and to me in person that he thought Scorcese was "nothing but a wedding photographer". He was irritated about how the whole shibang was handled including the cancellaton of the AC concert. I explained my view that for a film, the director called the shots. YMMV. Ah, well, that was before Mahty won Director of the Year.



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" Mahty" was just honored at the Kennedy Center Awards last week. They showed clips of many of his movies and I was hoping they'd end with a clip from " Shine A Light" , but alas, no way Jose! It would have been a more fitting ending to the clips, IMO. I like Scorcese, especially since he uses Stones songs in just about every one of his movies; he's cool if for no other reason than that!

steviewags Wrote:
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> Hoping for MSG

Yup. If they play, that's where I'll see them. I'm already saving up for it. I'm a third of the way to be able to go there. In 2 months I'll have the money an then they can just bring it. I'm there.

JumpingKentFlash

Shouldn't an announcement be made about these dates, if any...it's already Jan!

angee Wrote:
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> He was
> irritated about how the whole shibang was handled
> including the cancellaton of the AC concert. I
> explained my view that for a film, the director
> called the shots.

If thats the case, either they shouldnt have organised any shows several days either side of these Beacon gigs or (some chance) they should be compensating the fans they inconvenienced when prioritising the filmed shows so much that it led to 'mere' tour shows being postponed in suspicious circumstances at very short notice. The tour should have taken priority, especially when aboit 13,000 people are paying around $500 for a ticket and booking non refundable flights and hotel rooms.

Gazza Wrote:
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> angee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He was
> > irritated about how the whole shibang was
> handled
> > including the cancellaton of the AC concert. I
> > explained my view that for a film, the director
> > called the shots.
>
> If thats the case, either they shouldnt have
> organised any shows several days either side of
> these Beacon gigs or (some chance) they should be
> compensating the fans they inconvenienced when
> prioritising the filmed shows so much that it led
> to 'mere' tour shows being postponed in suspicious
> circumstances at very short notice. The tour
> should have taken priority, especially when aboit
> 13,000 people are paying around $500 for a ticket
> and booking non refundable flights and hotel
> rooms.

Christ stop reminding me... Still can't believe it happened! Well, if they play at the garden some time this year, I'm hoping to be there!!

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