Open G -

First off, the grain on the body of your Tele is beautiful.

My tuners appear to be Fender/Gotoh Vintage Style Tuning Machines, though I think your advice might apply - esp. the string winder - never had to use one before with my LP but I think that might be the easiest (and most obvious - good call!) solution.

Thank you sir!

I got mine in the late 80s, its the original 30th anniversary model of the 52 Tele...it shrieks...

JR

Juan

Your Fender/Gotoh Vintage Tuning Machines are called "Kluson type".
The good thing about 'em is, you don't have any spikey sharp string ends lurkin out, where you usually cut your fingers or poke someones eyes.
Remember Keith puncturing his hand on a string and got infected - it might have been just that.

Whats your set up on the tele...I think thin strings and Fender HEAVY picks...I have two Keith picks, one from Boston 2005, and another one from Voodoo....both are heavies...I wonder if he uses heavy or light guage strings...heavy is my bet...

JR

I use 010 - 46 gauge, tuned to open-g (hear hear) and a quite thin sharkfin pick.
the heavy scull one is the emergency pick - when I 've lost everything else
I build it in '81 - hmm, so she's 25 years old

looks like Keith uses these




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Found more details about the wiring I mentionned here : [www.themusicxchange.com]

Esquire/Nocaster/Broadcaster Control Circuit

For the first two years the twin-pickup guitars, regardless of name, did not have a tone control but had a "blend" control that allowed the neck pickup to be mixed with the bridge pickup when the selector switch was in the bridge position. In other regards, the controls were as shown in the following image for early Telecasters. In 1952 the tone control featured on the single-pickup guitar replaced the blend control.

So - does Keith use a blend control or a tone control type of wiring ?

is body of '52 american vintage telecaster made of one piece of wood, or two glued together? or they produce both variations? and what is the main difference between them?

Maybe they did make bodys out of one piece of wood in the early days,
but to get good quality wood, large enough to make a body in one piece,
is simply too expensive to manufacture in a large scale and hard to find.
so it was & is quite common to attach 2 or even more pieces together.
The bond, for sound and sustain reasons, is no problem at all.
The main difference is the optical/ asthetic point of view.
How well does the grain of the pieces go together.



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Elmo Lewis Wrote:
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> A lot of Keith's sound can be acheived by putting
> a humbucker in the neck pick-up position instead
> of the standard Tele pick-up. Take off the low E
> string and tune the remaining strings Low to High:
> G D G B D
>
> This will give you an open-G chord. Moving a
> single barre finger up the neck will give you the
> various chords - for example, C at the 5th fret.
> By placing your middle finger one fret higher on
> the second string and your ring finger two frets
> higher on the fourth string (the standard Am7
> shape), you get a pretty close sound.
>
> If you already knew this, sorry. If not, you're
> gonna love this.


is that how its done bro??? lol....

thanks open-g!

What do you think about price of 1500 euro for new '52 telecaster in offical fender shop in my city? is it good price?

bruno Wrote:
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> I checked, and the '52 Tele has nitrocellulose
> finish. Don't know about its quality compared to
> Gibsons, though, for example.
>
> [www.fender.com]
> 100202850


Well, there is a difference to what Fender states and what reality is: all vintage reissues use around 5 layers of polyurethane and then a very thin topcoat of nitro. In this way, you have the durability of the poly, but the finish will age like a full nitro finish. The rate is about 95% poly and 5% nitro on the vintage reissues. Fender even offers "thin skin" '52 Tele: it's basically a standard 52 Vintage reissue, but with a full nitro finish and a fatter neck profile. They do this as most buyers do not know the difference between a poly and a nitro finish, and as a poly finish is much more durable Fender chooses to use poly. And as they use a very thin topcoat of nitro, they are legally allowed to name it a "nitro finish". If you want a 100% nitro finish, you must buy a Custom Shop guitar.

Mathijs
ps check:

[www.thefenderforum.com]

What do you think about price of 1500 euro for new '52 telecaster in offical fender shop in my city? is it good price?

1500 bucks for a new one is the current price. But I would check ebay, as they go for $1000 second hand.

Mathijs

Have you looked at Japanese Fenders? They are supposedly better build than the lower-end American Fenders. I'm planning to order the Keith replica '52 Tele when I save some money, then I will change the pickups to SD Antiquities and for around 750 Euros it should be a good guitar. Here's the link to Ishibashi Music, they ship worldwide:

[www.excite.co.jp]

I've got a Japanese one, I tried several Telecasters (from USA too), before I chose the Japanese one.

I got a Taiwan made lite ash Tele recently.
small bucks for a pretty good guitar. the downside is the zillion coats of poly on the body (not the neck tho').
It's too new to stripp it yet

What's the deal with Japanese Fenders these days, anyway - I heard they're still being made but being sold "for export only", meaning everywhere but the U.S.

Any truth to that? I'd love to get my hands on a Japanese '72 Custom reissue as opposed to an American/Mexican hybrid.

Thanks for the info about the 95%-5%, Mathijs.

Amazing...

[There'll be no wedding today...]

open-g Wrote:
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> I got a Taiwan made lite ash Tele recently.
> small bucks for a pretty good guitar. the downside
> is the zillion coats of poly on the body (not the
> neck tho').
> It's too new to stripp it yet
> [i20.photobucket.com]
> erliteashBDXamp.jpg

Hey, open-g, why are there 6 strings on that one?

5th and 6th are both G, I'm used to it.
sounds fat when I want it and when I don't need it, I dampen and don't pick it.

nice wood!

what's the difference between Polyurethane Finish (on american strats and teles) and Nitrocellulose Lacquer Finish on '52. telecaster?

As far as I know, nitrocellulose finish allows the wood "breathing" in some way, while poly finish doesn't, meaning the natural sound of the wood doesn't gets out in the same way. I must admit I cannot hear the difference. And I doubt anybody could in a guitar played on a 100W amp at half volume. BUT...

Nitro does age in a "natural" way, cracking and that, as is a way more fragile finish. I think there's a sort of mythical status about the nitro finish, but as it's the finish present on most (if not all) Gibsons, vintage and expensive Fenders and most of high$$$ guitars, it must have something I cannot explain...

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Wow! That's a REAL Rock and Roll guitar open-G! ^^

I have a Jap Telecaster with a Seymour Duncan pickup in the neck position. It fits the original hole (so no routing was required) and is a humbucker to all intents and purposes! Fat Tele Humbucker I think it's called.

On the neck pickup only it has that low down growl that I need for 'that' sound!

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and what about Polyester Finish (on 50 telecaster)?