Check out the set the Gilmour is playing, looks great. He does the whole new album than some very obscure stuff that Floyd has not tried in well over 30 years. The crowd reaction was very good when he played these songs and the reviews are all very good. Only a few real hits were played and a much longer than the average Stones show. I wish the Stones would have the balls to try something like this.


The setlist was as follows:

First half: All of David's new album, On An Island.

Second half: Shine On You Crazy Diamond; Wot's... Uh The Deal; Wearing The Inside Out; Breathe/Time/Breathe (Reprise); Dominoes; High Hopes; Echoes.

Encores: Wish You Were Here; Comfortably Numb.

I don't think the Stones should take note. Gilmour never had any really good songs except for Pink Floyd.

and they were mostly crap too

his new stuff is diabolical dad rock. which to be fair was expected

Oh, that sounds really interesting. In 2 weeks I am going to see him in Milano.
But first tonight: an "intimate evening with Heather Nova", in Zürich. It is a concert, don't worry...

Sjouke

Yeah. I think Gilmour is a pretty selfish guy.. I mean I know Pink Floyd split up.. but if it weren't for Pink Floyd he could have never made it further than a local bar.

David Gilmour reminds me of Yul Brynner in "Westworld". You remember that psycho gunslinging robot with the demonic stare?

Charles Baudelaire
1821-1867

Sjouke Wrote:
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> Oh, that sounds really interesting. In 2 weeks I
> am going to see him in Milano.
> But first tonight: an "intimate evening with
> Heather Nova", in Zürich. It is a concert, don't
> worry...
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> Sjouke

Sjouke:

I am not going to the concert (saw him last time and almost fell asleep ...), but if you are not in a hurry, remember that I owe you a beer (more than one)!

C

Gilmour guitar, voice and songwriting is what makes Pink Floyd sound. I never liked anything Roger Waters did on his own. I am not even a big fan of the Wall. I enjoy Gilmour songs, or the ones he co-wrote with Waters much more. And I thought Division Bell was a great album.

My point is that Gilmour is willing to take some chances and his fans made it clear they were happy with the songs he performed.

Reptile, by the way I don't think Floyd would have became what they were without Gilmour. Picture Floyd with Syd Barrett playing guitar and singing for them all these years. Yikes. I think Roger Waters is the selfish one here, he is the only one in the band all these years that didn't want to play and only do solo stuff.

Yeah sure, but it's the combination of the Pink Floyd members that made it a great band. No Pink Floyd without Gilmour and no Gilmour without Pink Floyd.

This aint a floyd site......

Why should the Stones take notice of that???

JumpingKentFlash

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I wonder too, Kent. I could make a list of Stones-things Gilmour should take note of.

Yeah. Having great songs would be one thing.

JumpingKentFlash

An energetic performance would be nice too!! The guy stands infront of his mic the whole show.

Gilmour and the Stones are a totally different animal - both rock acts but very different in the type of music they play. It's easy for a solo artist to be more adventurous with set lists - they only have to please themselves. Bowie, Dylan etc can all vary their sets much more. It is a pity that the Stones don't play more of ABB this tour - seems to me they have no confidence in the album and would rather play it safe with older material because they know that that is what 90% of the audience have come to hear. True artists should never pander to the audience.

Andy

'because they know that that is what 90% of the audience have come to hear. True artists should never pander to the audience."

Unbelievable??? Hilarious????

An artist shouldn't pander to its audience?
For what bloomin point?

Its a Rock n Roll show not some sudo-modern art convention for dullard students who can't get a proper job!!!

"Why should the Stones take notice of that???"


Because Gilmour clearly wants to play his new music and is proud to perform it. The Stones play the same hits. God for bid they don't play Start Me up one night.


"Yeah sure, but it's the combination of the Pink Floyd members that made it a great band. No Pink Floyd without Gilmour and no Gilmour without Pink Floyd."

Exactly.

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> "Why should the Stones take notice of that???"
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> Because Gilmour clearly wants to play his new
> music and is proud to perform it. The Stones play
> the same hits. God for bid they don't play Start
> Me up one night.

Since when does Gilmour have hits?

I just want a bit of variety in the shows that's all - I feel as though I have been seeing the same gig for about 15 years - a great rock gig and all that but too predictable and stage managed.

Andy

Any other opinions apart from "diabolical dad rock" (i like it )
Is the record any good or does it stink?

Andy,
That is exactly the point I am trying to get across here. The Stones are my favorite band and when I get pissed about their set lists people will always say the same things and one of them is look at the set lists other artists are doing and here is another example that follows others acts I like.

I just want the Stones to do something different. Even Charlie says a tour is just the same show again night in night out and every thing is calculated down to the second. They have written so many good songs and we get the same parade of hits every time. I thought that Licks was going on the right direction and even Keith says playing different songs keeps the band fresh and exciting.

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> > music and is proud to perform it. The Stones
> play
> > the same hits. God for bid they don't play
> Start
> > Me up one night.
>
> Since when does Gilmour have hits?


Since now apparently, his new album has gone straight in the album charts in the UK at No1 !!

You can't really compare this-- when the solo Stones did their handful of shows to promote solo albums, they played that music, with just a few Stones hits... If Gilmour went touring as Pink Floyd in large stadiums, I'm sure he'd play mostly their warhorses.

When Jagger did a solo tour is was mostly Stones hits. Keith on the other hand did what you said above. One thing Gilmour did do his last solo tour that you would never see a Stone do is play solo songs from other members of Floyd as a tribute.

I wasn't talking about Jagger's psycho '88 tour. We can start a whole other thread on that. When he put on the few shows specifically to promote his albums, he played the songs from the albums.

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> Stones
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Yeah, but he can't play warhorses because there are none.

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> You can't really compare this-- when the solo
> Stones did their handful of shows to promote solo
> albums, they played that music, with just a few
> Stones hits... If Gilmour went touring as Pink
> Floyd in large stadiums, I'm sure he'd play mostly
> their warhorses.


well, one thing Pink Floyd did for much of their career was to play ALL of an album in concert from start to finish

Whether you think thats good or bad, its a very different mentality to the one the Stones have.

And with record sales like they have, you could argue that all of 'Dark Side' etc are 'warhorses'

I'd love to see the Floyd reform. I think their type of non physical shows would not be affected by age.

Gilmour is still one of the Masters of the Stratocaster. Shine on.

Gilmour will likely keep this exact same setlist for every night of the tour. Imagine the setlist moaning that would occur here if the Stones went back to doing that!

Also, consider that these shows Gilmour is doing are happening in venues that are around 6,000 or smaller. We saw on the Licks tour what the Stones will do to their setlists when they play very small venues. When Gilmour last toured with Pink Floyd in 1994, playing in stadiums, about the only obscure song they did was Astronomy Domine to open the concerts and the setlist was much more stagnant than the Stones' setlist on their current tour.

As Gazza pointed out, Pink Floyd were known to perform albums, many of which are "concept albums", in their entirety. When Gilmour last toured solo in 1984, if I recall correctly he did all 10 songs from his current album, but scattered throughout the show. When Waters tour in 1984-85 for The Pros And Cons Of Hitchiking, he also devoted the first half of the show to a complete run through of the album and in 1987 for Radio KAOS, all songs form that album were featured in the show. On his tour this year, in lieu of having a new album to promote, he will be performing The Dark Side Of The Moon in its entirety at some, if not all of his shows.

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When Gilmour last toured with Pink
> Floyd in 1994, playing in stadiums, about the only
> obscure song they did was Astronomy Domine to open
> the concerts and the setlist was much more
> stagnant than the Stones' setlist

Yeah that was sort of what I had in mind-- the Pulse stuff.