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Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Zotz ()
Date: January 13, 2025 21:58

Opera Buffa imaginery response letter to Keith's "LIFE" from Mick J.

Keith Richards "LIFE" - 15 year anniversary 2010

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 13, 2025 22:25

Wow.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 13, 2025 23:00

I couldn't stop reading this once I started. Bang on.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: January 13, 2025 23:51

"I spoke to Jagger about Keith's book soon after it was published. He seemed hurt, angry. He told me about driving to Connecticut to read the galleys at Keith's house. He told me about asking Keith to remove passages. When I asked about specific gripes, Mick urged me to consider the big picture. Here I paraphrase. Imagine that everything Keith says is true. Now imagine those things being said by a business partner, a man you've joined in a multi-million-dollar enterprise. Now imagine that partner is a drug addicted. Sometimes, you have a big meeting and he doesn't show. Sometimes, as you're about to make a big deal, he gets busted. Or maybe he gets busted on the eve of a world tour. What, in such a case, would you make of his complaints?"

"Jagger laughed about some of the most salacious material-a cold cynical laugh-then said he doubted Keith even read the book. It's so saturated with Keith's voice that it's hard to believe he was not closely involved, but I understand why Mick would choose to believe Keith had checked out."

From the book The Sun & The Moon & The Rolling Stones.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: January 14, 2025 00:15

wow i couldn't stop reading it either

i don't agree with all of it

but it's the best defense of mick i've ever read and think it might likely sum up his perspective fairly well on the matter

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: angee ()
Date: January 14, 2025 02:46

Yeah, as listed, this came out in 2010. I found it a good imaginary piece at the time.

~"Love is Strong"~

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: January 14, 2025 03:12

How would you describe Mick and Keith’s relationship today?
They sound closer — in the songs and performances on “A Bigger Bang” — than they have in years.

They’re like brothers: always opposite, always agreeing.
But you better not get between them. Because they’ll agree with each other, and you’ll be left on your own [laughs].

Have there been times when they were so far apart you felt the need to mediate, to bring them together?

When they get too far apart, you think, “Enough is enough.” But most of the time they do it themselves.
They’re getting on very well at the moment. I think it was the way this record was done — simply. Even when I came back, it was simple.

Charlie Watts - David Fricke 2005



ROCKMAN

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 14, 2025 10:15

In regard to Mick and Keith being that "business partner, a man you've joined in a multi-million-dollar enterprise", beyond the general media gasp hype of ABC etc, the smart people know better:

It's promotion.

Aside from the legit confrontations Mick and Keith have had, they worked it. While it's very likely still true that they go after each other, obviously they've figured it out.

So be it. Look at the sponsors starting in 1981 - no one has ever not joined The Rolling Stones because Mick and Keith sparring isn't the deal, the deal is...

The Rolling Stones.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Date: January 14, 2025 11:30

Thank you Zotz.
It’s possibly one of the best pieces I’ve read about the band. The author is undoubtedly a scholar in the field. Bill, Keith, Mick (I can’t imagine Charlie reading it) would be surprised by the depth of interest and knowledge the author has about the band’s public life.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Donnebr ()
Date: January 17, 2025 05:06

Interesting take

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Paddy ()
Date: January 17, 2025 09:40

Good read, there’s things in there I thought myself as I read Keith’s book.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Date: January 17, 2025 12:02

The part about Tara is weird and not sure if I find it acceptable.

Otherwise interesting read, but also bit of showing off his knowledge (which is very good)

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: January 17, 2025 13:01

This is fake, right?

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: January 17, 2025 15:51

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Koen
This is fake, right?

Yes it's fiction

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Christiaan ()
Date: January 17, 2025 18:06

smoking smileyspinning smiley sticking its tongue outgrinning smileysmileys with beer

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 17, 2025 19:02

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The part about Tara is weird and not sure if I find it acceptable.

Otherwise interesting read, but also bit of showing off his knowledge (which is very good)

The new Keyser Söze.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: TeaAtThree ()
Date: January 17, 2025 22:10

That was an amazing read. The author had to really do a deep dive and clearly has knowledge of the band's catalog and history. The only clunker I saw what that they have played "Sway" live, but I will certainly forgive that since the liner notes of Rarities had numerous mis-attributions. How embarrassing was that?

Thanks for sharing!

T@3

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: GJV ()
Date: January 17, 2025 22:50

I didn't read it yet, so I don't know the context but they played "Sway" more than once live.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: keefriffhards ()
Date: January 17, 2025 23:00

It's fake but the funny thing is, despite all Keith's drugs use and heroin addiction he never missed a show.
Not exactly Mr unreliable.

Even through the more recent drinking decades i believe the only cancelled show was due to a cut finger from a guitar string.

I'd say Mick can definitely count on Keith.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: January 17, 2025 23:11

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keefriffhards
It's fake but the funny thing is, despite all Keith's drugs use and heroin addiction he never missed a show.
Not exactly Mr unreliable.

Even through the more recent drinking decades i believe the only cancelled show was due to a cut finger from a guitar string.

I'd say Mick can definitely count on Keith.

To show up for work is a good start. The second thing is to be sober and on time. You got to master all three to keep a job in the long run. At least if you are an employee.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 18, 2025 06:45

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keefriffhards
It's fake but the funny thing is, despite all Keith's drugs use and heroin addiction he never missed a show.
Not exactly Mr unreliable.

Even through the more recent drinking decades i believe the only cancelled show was due to a cut finger from a guitar string.

I'd say Mick can definitely count on Keith.

To show up for work is a good start. The second thing is to be sober and on time. You got to master all three to keep a job in the long run. At least if you are an employee.

So that's where it is?

Shows have been cancelled because Mick had issues, usually laryngitis.

Keith:

Shows have been cancelled/pushed back because Keith:

Cut his finger

Hurt himself looking for a book

Got hurt falling off of a tree limb in Fiji


To my understanding, never Bill, Charlie or Ronnie.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: January 18, 2025 07:48

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keefriffhards
It's fake but the funny thing is, despite all Keith's drugs use and heroin addiction he never missed a show.
Not exactly Mr unreliable.

Even through the more recent drinking decades i believe the only cancelled show was due to a cut finger from a guitar string.

I'd say Mick can definitely count on Keith.

To show up for work is a good start. The second thing is to be sober and on time. You got to master all three to keep a job in the long run. At least if you are an employee.

So that's where it is?

Shows have been cancelled because Mick had issues, usually laryngitis.

Keith:

Shows have been cancelled/pushed back because Keith:

Cut his finger

Hurt himself looking for a book

Got hurt falling off of a tree limb in Fiji


To my understanding, never Bill, Charlie or Ronnie.

So the takeaway is that Keith is a bit clumsy?

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: keefriffhards ()
Date: January 18, 2025 11:27

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keefriffhards
It's fake but the funny thing is, despite all Keith's drugs use and heroin addiction he never missed a show.
Not exactly Mr unreliable.

Even through the more recent drinking decades i believe the only cancelled show was due to a cut finger from a guitar string.

I'd say Mick can definitely count on Keith.

To show up for work is a good start. The second thing is to be sober and on time. You got to master all three to keep a job in the long run. At least if you are an employee.

So that's where it is?

Shows have been cancelled because Mick had issues, usually laryngitis.

Keith:

Shows have been cancelled/pushed back because Keith:

Cut his finger

Hurt himself looking for a book

Got hurt falling off of a tree limb in Fiji


To my understanding, never Bill, Charlie or Ronnie.

Ridiculous as usual, blaming Keith for having an accident or two throughout his life for postponing shows or whatever as being unreliable is a bit like saying Mick is unreliable for needing heart surgery, utterly ridiculous.
None of the Stones have been unreliable, fulfilling tour dates that span years ( some tours spanning 3 years )for over 60 years.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 18, 2025 19:17

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keefriffhards
It's fake but the funny thing is, despite all Keith's drugs use and heroin addiction he never missed a show.
Not exactly Mr unreliable.

Even through the more recent drinking decades i believe the only cancelled show was due to a cut finger from a guitar string.

I'd say Mick can definitely count on Keith.

To show up for work is a good start. The second thing is to be sober and on time. You got to master all three to keep a job in the long run. At least if you are an employee.

So that's where it is?

Shows have been cancelled because Mick had issues, usually laryngitis.

Keith:

Shows have been cancelled/pushed back because Keith:

Cut his finger

Hurt himself looking for a book

Got hurt falling off of a tree limb in Fiji


To my understanding, never Bill, Charlie or Ronnie.

Ridiculous as usual, blaming Keith for having an accident or two throughout his life for postponing shows or whatever as being unreliable is a bit like saying Mick is unreliable for needing heart surgery, utterly ridiculous.
None of the Stones have been unreliable, fulfilling tour dates that span years ( some tours spanning 3 years )for over 60 years.

Stop making garbage up. You're very quick to fire off your very own fake news.

I'm not "blaming" Keith, just pointing out facts. Nor was "unreliable" ever mentioned.

FACTS are not blame. Point out where anyone has blamed Mick or Keith.

Keith hitting his head on a tree and Mick needing heart surgery were severe moments. You make it sound like the point is they did those things on purpose.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Date: January 19, 2025 03:52

All this bickering, disagreeing or whatever you want to call it is one of the things that have kept their names in the headlines.

I personally think most if it is rubbish.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 19, 2025 07:29

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georgemcdonnell314
All this bickering, disagreeing or whatever you want to call it is one of the things that have kept their names in the headlines.

I personally think most if it is rubbish.

True.

But that previous bit is not about that. It's here.

I have no whatever with keefriffhards, and as people here say, a great contributor, absolutely true, but that was out of line.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: keefriffhards ()
Date: January 19, 2025 19:20

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keefriffhards
It's fake but the funny thing is, despite all Keith's drugs use and heroin addiction he never missed a show.
Not exactly Mr unreliable.

Even through the more recent drinking decades i believe the only cancelled show was due to a cut finger from a guitar string.

I'd say Mick can definitely count on Keith.

To show up for work is a good start. The second thing is to be sober and on time. You got to master all three to keep a job in the long run. At least if you are an employee.

So that's where it is?

Shows have been cancelled because Mick had issues, usually laryngitis.

Keith:

Shows have been cancelled/pushed back because Keith:

Cut his finger

Hurt himself looking for a book

Got hurt falling off of a tree limb in Fiji


To my understanding, never Bill, Charlie or Ronnie.

Ridiculous as usual, blaming Keith for having an accident or two throughout his life for postponing shows or whatever as being unreliable is a bit like saying Mick is unreliable for needing heart surgery, utterly ridiculous.
None of the Stones have been unreliable, fulfilling tour dates that span years ( some tours spanning 3 years )for over 60 years.

Stop making garbage up. You're very quick to fire off your very own fake news.

I'm not "blaming" Keith, just pointing out facts. Nor was "unreliable" ever mentioned.

FACTS are not blame. Point out where anyone has blamed Mick or Keith.

Keith hitting his head on a tree and Mick needing heart surgery were severe moments. You make it sound like the point is they did those things on purpose.

I have no idea how you equate what i said to your last paragraph.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: January 20, 2025 19:03

I remember this article when it came out. Although much of it rings true, the writer's voice is not like Mick's voice. Mick is much more practical, and way less disclosive. He doesn't overthink things, and wouldn't come to many of the same conclusions the writer did. He also never re-visits the past. Watch the two part video of the Stones' history made in 1989 and contrast the differences in how Mick and Keith saw the same events.

Re: Please Allow Me To Correct A Few Things..."LIFE"
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: January 20, 2025 20:26

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Bliss
I remember this article when it came out. Although much of it rings true, the writer's voice is not like Mick's voice. Mick is much more practical, and way less disclosive. He doesn't overthink things, and wouldn't come to many of the same conclusions the writer did. He also never re-visits the past. Watch the two part video of the Stones' history made in 1989 and contrast the differences in how Mick and Keith saw the same events.

Mick's disinterest in the past is his most unrelatable quality to me



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