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Re: 30th Anniversary of Virgin CD remasters
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: September 17, 2024 21:16

Thanks a lot for all the information ironbelly!

Re: 30th Anniversary of Virgin CD remasters
Posted by: Jalfstra ()
Date: September 18, 2024 12:56

30 years.. I remember well when the CBS collection was replaced by this Virgin catalogue. I bought them all at the time.

30 years is also the estimated lifespan of CDs due to bit rot and disc rot. How are the copies of these Virgin CDs of the members here doing?

Re: 30th Anniversary of Virgin CD remasters
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: September 18, 2024 17:21

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Jalfstra
30 years.. I remember well when the CBS collection was replaced by this Virgin catalogue. I bought them all at the time.

30 years is also the estimated lifespan of CDs due to bit rot and disc rot. How are the copies of these Virgin CDs of the members here doing?
Everything is OK with mine. Both with Japanese versions and with European. Some of which are from stamplers like 1-1-2-NL and w/o Mould SID code. I.e. were definitively made in 1994.

I also have a couple of dozen of 'rare and early pressings'. Most of those are not Stones related. Like ABBA titles on 'red face Polydor' from late 1982, John Mayall Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton (from march 1983), Rainbow - Straight Between The Eyes also on 'red face Polydor', that infamous Japanese 'black triangle label' Tattoo You (summer 1983), Still Life with 'yellow target label' (early 1984). The first pressings of The Rolling Stones on West German London label (summer-autumn 1984) etc. All are OK, play w/o skips, rip w/o errors.

There were problematic discs that suffer the rot. But those are mainly PDO UK editions from 1989-1991, Nimbus UK editions 1987-1988 (so called 'sticky Nimbus'), a few pressings from JVC Japan (1987-1989) and a lot of US pressings from lesser known replication companies.

In general, West German Polydor/PDO/PRS/PMDS pressings are very stable to rot. These are London CDs of The Rolling Stones. Japanese and Austrian CBS discs are good too. Newer has problems with those or heard any complains. Sure, there are cases with pinholes. But those are manufacturer defects that slipped through the quality control but not aging or rot.

Re: 30th Anniversary of Virgin CD remasters
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: September 18, 2024 22:47

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ironbelly
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Jalfstra
30 years.. I remember well when the CBS collection was replaced by this Virgin catalogue. I bought them all at the time.

30 years is also the estimated lifespan of CDs due to bit rot and disc rot. How are the copies of these Virgin CDs of the members here doing?
Everything is OK with mine. Both with Japanese versions and with European. Some of which are from stamplers like 1-1-2-NL and w/o Mould SID code. I.e. were definitively made in 1994.

I also have a couple of dozen of 'rare and early pressings'. Most of those are not Stones related. Like ABBA titles on 'red face Polydor' from late 1982, John Mayall Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton (from march 1983), Rainbow - Straight Between The Eyes also on 'red face Polydor', that infamous Japanese 'black triangle label' Tattoo You (summer 1983), Still Life with 'yellow target label' (early 1984). The first pressings of The Rolling Stones on West German London label (summer-autumn 1984) etc. All are OK, play w/o skips, rip w/o errors.

There were problematic discs that suffer the rot. But those are mainly PDO UK editions from 1989-1991, Nimbus UK editions 1987-1988 (so called 'sticky Nimbus'), a few pressings from JVC Japan (1987-1989) and a lot of US pressings from lesser known replication companies.

In general, West German Polydor/PDO/PRS/PMDS pressings are very stable to rot. These are London CDs of The Rolling Stones. Japanese and Austrian CBS discs are good too. Newer has problems with those or heard any complains. Sure, there are cases with pinholes. But those are manufacturer defects that slipped through the quality control but not aging or rot.

Like getting a vinyl that's warped, or skips. Them's the chances you take.

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