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Re: 25 Years since Shepherds Bush Empire show
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: June 10, 2024 14:59

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RisingStone
Who can prove the true value of an event?

Tapes? The Bush one always left me cold. Mundane setlist, worthless one-off songs (Melody? Moon Is Up? Yawn!);

And overall I don't think much of the Euro'99 "tour" : the gigs were bland, as if after discovering playing arenas and the genuine excitement it gave them, the band were back to the letdown experience of concrete stadiums and potato fields in the middle of nowhere.

Re: 25 Years since Shepherds Bush Empire show
Posted by: SoulSurvivor1990 ()
Date: June 10, 2024 15:29

I listened to the Bush tape this past weekend and I think it holds up as a great show.

Shattered is probably the best live version out there (the few 1999 versions are all very good). Respectable and All Down the Line really cook. Some Girls is filthy. The run of Melody -> I Got the Blues -> Brand New Car -> Moon is Up may not be everyone's ideal run of rarities, but they're played well and you have to give them credit when they dig that deep into the catalog. Saint of Me sounds great in such a small crowd.

As mentioned, Keith is all over this show and plays very well. The band as a whole is very tight and sound closer to the U.S. arena run then the more staid Babylon redux that was the Euro run.

I'd posit any Stones club show is special and worth a listen, The only one I wasn't totally enamored with was Astoria '03.

Re: 25 Years since Shepherds Bush Empire show
Posted by: strat72 ()
Date: June 11, 2024 05:30

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Just realised this today (8th). It is hard to believe it's 25 years since this one-off thank you for waiting show to UK fans following postponement of the 1998 shows.
Long over due for an official release!

O - the memories ! I fondly recall queueing up (wherever the hell it was in central London, can't remember right now, it was either TOWER RECORDS or HMV) with my mate Eric to get tickets for this show, and in due course - it didn't disappoint in the slightest. Have the bootleg, that version of SOME GIRLS is scorching ! Definitely due for an official release.

As Syrel says it was Tower Records (Great Record Shop, sadly long gone) for The Shepherds Bush show and HMV in Oxford Street (Which also closed down , but has recently reopened) for The Brixton Academy show in 95. My brother and I had no idea where the tickets were being sold so in the middle of the night we decided to randomly drive around central London in search of a queue. We happily found one one both occasions.

I saw four club shows around that period of time and my favourite was The Paradiso in 95, followed by Brixton also in 95, Shepherds Bush in 99, and then THe Astoria in 2003.

Re: 25 Years since Shepherds Bush Empire show
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: June 12, 2024 12:49

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dcba
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RisingStone
Who can prove the true value of an event?

Tapes? The Bush one always left me cold. Mundane setlist, worthless one-off songs (Melody? Moon Is Up? Yawn!);

And overall I don't think much of the Euro'99 "tour" : the gigs were bland, as if after discovering playing arenas and the genuine excitement it gave them, the band were back to the letdown experience of concrete stadiums and potato fields in the middle of nowhere.

I fully agree: after the fabulous 1999 US No Security arena shows, the European lag of that tour was a huge disappointment, with Groningen 1999 really the worst show I have ever been to. It seemed the Stones indeed were very much underwhelmed themselves by playing the enormodomes again after the NS experience of arenas.

Mathijs

Re: 25 Years since Shepherds Bush Empire show
Posted by: RisingStone ()
Date: June 12, 2024 13:33

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Mathijs
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dcba
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RisingStone
Who can prove the true value of an event?

Tapes? The Bush one always left me cold. Mundane setlist, worthless one-off songs (Melody? Moon Is Up? Yawn!);

And overall I don't think much of the Euro'99 "tour" : the gigs were bland, as if after discovering playing arenas and the genuine excitement it gave them, the band were back to the letdown experience of concrete stadiums and potato fields in the middle of nowhere.

I fully agree: after the fabulous 1999 US No Security arena shows, the European lag of that tour was a huge disappointment, with Groningen 1999 really the worst show I have ever been to. It seemed the Stones indeed were very much underwhelmed themselves by playing the enormodomes again after the NS experience of arenas.

Mathijs

To the group’s credit, the five B2B shows I attended in Japan in 1998, Tokyo x 3 and Osaka x 2, were every bit as fantastic as their shows ever were. They were all held at “enormodomes” but some of the best among the 32 Stones shows I have been to between 1989 and 2022. B2B is still my favorite tour of the modern Stones era I fondly look back. I didn’t see the NS tour, but I can say with confidence the B2B shows 1998 were marvelous in their own right.
Maybe the novelty had worn off by 1999, but as I stated above, Wembley ‘99 was a deteriorated version of what I had been treated to the previous year and that’s the main reason I was underwhelmed by the shows.

[N.B. For Euro ‘98, YCAGWW was dropped from most of the dates so the setlist reduction had already started there and then.]



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Re: 25 Years since Shepherds Bush Empire show
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: June 12, 2024 14:18

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The best source is Don’t Bust the Crust.

All Sister Morphine releases are terrible. All squashed, compressed sound.

Mathijs

Re: 25 Years since Shepherds Bush Empire show
Date: June 12, 2024 14:34

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O - the memories ! I fondly recall queueing up (wherever the hell it was in central London, can't remember right now, it was either TOWER RECORDS or HMV) with my mate Eric to get tickets for this show, and in due course - it didn't disappoint in the slightest. Have the bootleg, that version of SOME GIRLS is scorching ! Definitely due for an official release.

It was Tower Records on Picadilly Circus. I had been waiting outside Virgin on Oxford Street, on the basis of that was where the 95 Brixton tickets had been sold from. Gutted when we heard it was Tower! Groups of random strangers just all jumped into cabs together yelling 'Picadilly as quick as you can!'.

syrel

Same here Syrel, my mate and I had been at Virgin on Oxford Street early that morning, realised there was nothing doing and so headed over towards Piccadilly. As we walked down Shaftesbury Avenue, we saw some dude in a black leather jacket with a tongue on the back - follow him! It was a Monday morning and not long after we joined the queue outside Tower Records a Breakfast TV crew rocked up wanting to interview fans, some of whom (my mate included) had 'Doctors appointments' as their excuse for not being at work and so ducked out of view of the cameras! The gig was the following night and so to keep up the pretence my mate had to hide his wristband from view when he went into his office. Happy days and a great show.

Re: 25 Years since Shepherds Bush Empire show
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: June 12, 2024 14:47

Got down to Piccadilly Tower Records at about 7am and we had Nikki Sudden and his acoustic guitar a few feet behind us peeling off Stones' classics to keep the crowd happy. I also had to ring in to work and say I had toothache and needed to visit the dentist.

The show itself was amazing. My then wife and I got to the third row/line of people right in front of Keith and lasted about 5 songs before she nearly got crushed and we turned back to the half way point to get a perfect view over the crowd's heads. Great gig.

Re: 25 Years since Shepherds Bush Empire show
Posted by: babyblue ()
Date: June 12, 2024 15:21

Wow is it 25 years….time flies when you’re having fun. I should get that bootleg out and play it.



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