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Paul McCartney reportedly was spotted at the same rehearsal facility.

Topi stop trying to get spying journalists to report silly things

Honestly, this is from someone who was there, posted on FB just a few hours ago:

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Fun day at ****** Studios as the Stones wrapped up the rehearsals and loaded out. Saw Macca, Andrew Watt, Jane Rose, Elizabeth Jagger, Ronnie and Sally, Keith and Mick's cars and then Pierre was kind enough to gift the last few of us with a couple of Keith picks.

On TikTok, there's a recent video of Macca leaving the studio in his Vette:

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That same car was pictured in the FB post.



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But I agree - the setlist just took a notable turn for the worse. (Don't want to start an argument/spoil anyone's fun, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm I had for the tour with that rehearsal list.)

Yeah, me too. The HD songs are not enough to save the day — even if they were more than four on offer.

As for warhorses, I’d take MR over MY, YCAGWYW and Satisfaction any day. One of the few songs with notable variations in their deliveries night to night when they play it live onstage, which makes it more thrilling to hear than most other songs in their concert repertoire.
That being said, they dropped MR on most of the VL and B2B shows (12/133 and 10/117, respectively) and roughly half of the Licks and ABB shows (61/116 and 75/145, respectively) so this is not the first time.

One of THE best later day Stones shows I attended was at the First Union Center in Philly 2002 on the Licks tour. The Stones played a Let It Bleed mini set that did not include Midnight Rambler, but instead of that showcase, they pulled out Can't You Hear Me Knocking later on in the concert, that from what I could hear, left the audience pretty satisfied. Personally for me, it is not that I don't like MR, it is just that maybe it shouldn't be a staple at every concert they have played (and could benefit from being rotated) since they re-grouped for their 50th anniversary (2012) and beyond...



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Regarding Midnight Rambler having worn out or tarnished without Charlie’s drumming, the subtle nuances he delivered etc. — that doesn’t bother me, this more than casual but less than hardcore fan, that much TBHWY. My first show sans Charlie, Hyde Park 2022 #1, was one of the greatest RS shows I had ever attended. Steve’s ‘power drumming’ certainly worked under those circumstances.

Fot me the worst thing about Rambler these days is that the "guitar solo" is just a bunch of noise. Ronnie doesn't even bother to play anything halfway melodic. He has other songs where he can shine

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Topi stop trying to get spying journalists to report silly things

Honestly, this is from someone who was there, posted on FB just a few hours ago:

Yeah, I saw it, was just teasing

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Regarding Midnight Rambler having worn out or tarnished without Charlie’s drumming, the subtle nuances he delivered etc. — that doesn’t bother me, this more than casual but less than hardcore fan, that much TBHWY. My first show sans Charlie, Hyde Park 2022 #1, was one of the greatest RS shows I had ever attended. Steve’s ‘power drumming’ certainly worked under those circumstances.

I've definitely seen some amazing versions of Rambler with Steve, I'd also go along with Ronnie seems to have run out of ideas with Rambler, but hell, a poor version of Rambler is still incredible to see and hear for the fact that these old guys at 80 seem to come to life and turn the clock back when they play it.

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Regarding Midnight Rambler having worn out or tarnished without Charlie’s drumming, the subtle nuances he delivered etc. — that doesn’t bother me, this more than casual but less than hardcore fan, that much TBHWY. My first show sans Charlie, Hyde Park 2022 #1, was one of the greatest RS shows I had ever attended. Steve’s ‘power drumming’ certainly worked under those circumstances.

I've definitely seen some amazing versions of Rambler with Steve, I'd also go along with Ronnie seems to have run out of ideas with Rambler, but hell, a poor version of Rambler is still incredible to see and hear for the fact that these old guys at 80 seem to come to life and turn the clock back when they play it.

the worst thing is that Rambler is the only of the overplayed warhorses that seems to get dropped. it's time to replace at least three of the following: Start Me Up, Miss You, Paint It Black, Honky Tonk Women, Symapthy, Gimme Shelter

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You really are sad Doxa, someone who sees things differently to you means they are Mark Chapman.
You carry on with your campaign mate and I'll carry on speaking my mind.

Your bad-mouthing of Jagger is pretty innocent stuff in its stupidity, but what actually scares me is your unhealthy obsession with Richards with all that projection.

- Doxa



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You really are sad Doxa, someone who sees things differently to you means they are Mark Chapman.
You carry on with your campaign mate and I'll carry on speaking my mind.

Your bad-mouthing of Jagger is pretty innocent stuff in its stupidity, but what actually scares me is your unhealthy obsession with Richards with all that projection.

- Doxa

I've seen Keith as an inspiration since i was 18 years old mate, no harm in that, I've realised his limitations since about 1993, it is what it is, we all get old but still like the guy. In recent years i get more enjoyment focusing on Dylans output, so like all things the passion for the Stones has faded to some extent, but that's natural isn't it ?

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Regarding Midnight Rambler having worn out or tarnished without Charlie’s drumming, the subtle nuances he delivered etc. — that doesn’t bother me, this more than casual but less than hardcore fan, that much TBHWY. My first show sans Charlie, Hyde Park 2022 #1, was one of the greatest RS shows I had ever attended. Steve’s ‘power drumming’ certainly worked under those circumstances.

I've definitely seen some amazing versions of Rambler with Steve, I'd also go along with Ronnie seems to have run out of ideas with Rambler, but hell, a poor version of Rambler is still incredible to see and hear for the fact that these old guys at 80 seem to come to life and turn the clock back when they play it.

Berlin en paris 22 where excellent from ronnie. More then that really

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You really are sad Doxa, someone who sees things differently to you means they are Mark Chapman.
You carry on with your campaign mate and I'll carry on speaking my mind.

Your bad-mouthing of Jagger is pretty innocent stuff in its stupidity, but what actually scares me is your unhealthy obsession with Richards with all that projection.

- Doxa

I've seen Keith as an inspiration since i was 18 years old mate, no harm in that, I've realised his limitations since about 1993, it is what it is, we all get old but still like the guy. In recent years i get more enjoyment focusing on Dylans output, so like all things the passion for the Stones has faded to some extent, but that's natural isn't it ?

it's only natural to turn to Dylan when one gets wise and old

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You really are sad Doxa, someone who sees things differently to you means they are Mark Chapman.
You carry on with your campaign mate and I'll carry on speaking my mind.

Your bad-mouthing of Jagger is pretty innocent stuff in its stupidity, but what actually scares me is your unhealthy obsession with Richards with all that projection.

- Doxa

I've seen Keith as an inspiration since i was 18 years old mate, no harm in that, I've realised his limitations since about 1993, it is what it is, we all get old but still like the guy. In recent years i get more enjoyment focusing on Dylans output, so like all things the passion for the Stones has faded to some extent, but that's natural isn't it ?

it's only natural to turn to Dylan when one gets wise and old

Haha yes, considering Keith has only given us Crosseyed Heart since 93

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You really are sad Doxa, someone who sees things differently to you means they are Mark Chapman.
You carry on with your campaign mate and I'll carry on speaking my mind.

Your bad-mouthing of Jagger is pretty innocent stuff in its stupidity, but what actually scares me is your unhealthy obsession with Richards with all that projection.

- Doxa

Why are we fighting and what for?

I sent an audio recording of all down the line to doxa- an outside recorded rehearsal in LA yesterday , and it sounded great. I think Jagger and Richards are still a couple, musically. And music is the only language we all understand.

It would be a shame if they left Rambler out. I am sure I am not alone when I say it was the highlight of the show for me.

And, they will play Miss You as long as Mick wants to perform it but I agree it has been over played and it has become too long and drawn out.

What I would really like to see them do is like in 78 just come out with a bunch of new songs in a row.

Regardless of what they choose to play, I'll still go to as many shows as possible.

A Stones gig without Midnight Rambler is for me unthinkable.
They better may cancel Miss You and Tumbling Dice.

If 2022 tour didn't happen I would love to see Rambler and Miss You replaced. Oddly these 2 songs were a highlight for me because Steve and Darryl were doing some great stuff, seemed locked in to me. Also, Mick, Keith and Ronnie were great, so in this case it was a full band onslaught in my opinion. I would like to see this evolve more this year. My fingers are crossed.

Glad to see Little T&A in the set Iist, hope it sticks

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Done deal.

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Thanks for the heads up. I'll start saving money for Europe 25. Always love to travel Europe to see the Stones. So far 6 trips. We can hope their health holds out.

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Done deal.

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Thanks for the heads up. I'll start saving money for Europe 25.

Oh, I was just joking, hence the wink... I have zero info on Europe 2025. The "done deal" part was a throwback to potus43/mickscarey who always thought a show at MSG - on pretty much any tour - was a "done deal".



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A Stones gig without Midnight Rambler is for me unthinkable.
They better may cancel Miss You and Tumbling Dice.

I’ve seen only 88 shows since 1989.
Midnight Rambler only 58 times

Miss You 63 times (more than enough for me )
Tumbling Dice gladly 86 times

Satisfaction 84 times (more than enough for me )
Honky Tonk Women 86 times
Start Me Up 87 times
Jumping Jack Flash 87 times

And last but not least Brown Sugar 77 times Was till 2021 along with SMU & JJF played played at all shows I went, but one.



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You really are sad Doxa, someone who sees things differently to you means they are Mark Chapman.
You carry on with your campaign mate and I'll carry on speaking my mind.

Your bad-mouthing of Jagger is pretty innocent stuff in its stupidity, but what actually scares me is your unhealthy obsession with Richards with all that projection.

- Doxa

I've seen Keith as an inspiration since i was 18 years old mate, no harm in that, I've realised his limitations since about 1993, it is what it is, we all get old but still like the guy. In recent years i get more enjoyment focusing on Dylans output, so like all things the passion for the Stones has faded to some extent, but that's natural isn't it ?

it's only natural to turn to Dylan when one gets wise and old

When I turned to Dylan I was young and fool. Now I am old, but Still A Fool to dig The Rolling Stones also...

- Doxa

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You really are sad Doxa, someone who sees things differently to you means they are Mark Chapman.
You carry on with your campaign mate and I'll carry on speaking my mind.

Your bad-mouthing of Jagger is pretty innocent stuff in its stupidity, but what actually scares me is your unhealthy obsession with Richards with all that projection.

- Doxa

I've seen Keith as an inspiration since i was 18 years old mate, no harm in that, I've realised his limitations since about 1993, it is what it is, we all get old but still like the guy. In recent years i get more enjoyment focusing on Dylans output, so like all things the passion for the Stones has faded to some extent, but that's natural isn't it ?

it's only natural to turn to Dylan when one gets wise and old

When I turned to Dylan I was young and fool. Now I am old, but Still A Fool to dig The Rolling Stones also...

- Doxa

it lacks taylor, from a nostalgic point of view.

You can tell the band wants to fit in a lot of new songs, the songs they always play and a plenty of album cuts but yesterday they had to reluctantly take out the scalpel and cut out some parts no one really wants to see go. They aren't going to play 4 hours and play an all new song / deep cut set at a random midwestern stadium show where the cost of admission is equal to a mortgage payment.

It was a lot more fun and interesting seeing the show come together, probably more so than the show itself.

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You really are sad Doxa, someone who sees things differently to you means they are Mark Chapman.
You carry on with your campaign mate and I'll carry on speaking my mind.

Your bad-mouthing of Jagger is pretty innocent stuff in its stupidity, but what actually scares me is your unhealthy obsession with Richards with all that projection.

- Doxa

Why are we fighting and what for?

I sent an audio recording of all down the line to doxa- an outside recorded rehearsal in LA yesterday , and it sounded great. I think Jagger and Richards are still a couple, musically. And music is the only language we all understand.

recording made with mics? iem? phone?

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You really are sad Doxa, someone who sees things differently to you means they are Mark Chapman.
You carry on with your campaign mate and I'll carry on speaking my mind.

Your bad-mouthing of Jagger is pretty innocent stuff in its stupidity, but what actually scares me is your unhealthy obsession with Richards with all that projection.

- Doxa

Why are we fighting and what for?

I sent an audio recording of all down the line to doxa- an outside recorded rehearsal in LA yesterday , and it sounded great. I think Jagger and Richards are still a couple, musically. And music is the only language we all understand.

recording made with mics? iem? phone?

Without Mick Taylor, as we speak.



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Haha, maybe this would be a good time to re-watch that @#$%& is upset Mick Taylor wasn't invited on the 2015 Tour. That destroys me every time.

Rolling Stones 2024 Rehearsal Reports (**Spoilers / Complete prototype setlists**)

After my reconaissance missions a few weeks ago failed to turn anything up closer to home I was finally clued in to the rehearsal location somewhere in Hollywood. Did a drive by late Sunday night with predictably no signs of anything but Monday spotted a few familiar faces and knew it was the place.

This time around it was a bit more low key compared to 2013 with less excitement and less people turning up.

There was a main street front entrance where the band arrived and where security was concentrated to escort them in and out. When Mick left, one of the bodyguards performed a nightly ritual of waiting until maximum traffic clogged the avenue, then walking out and stopping tit with a flashlight so Mick could pull out and be instantly surrounded by vehicles. Miraculouly neither the bodyguard or any vehicles in the street were damaged but he deserves hazard pay especially with automobiles murdering pedestrians in Los Angeles on an almost daily basis.

Down a side street there was an unobstructed loading dock and a few vents that allowed for listening of very low volume with room for only a few people. So don't blame me for that setup which likely resulted in you not getting an invite.

I know this has been a big mess in Toronto in years past with large throngs showing up to hear or see something but here people hanging around or congregating in strange places doesn't even get a second look. Kinda like New York with rats, in Hollywood everybody knows they are less than 20 feet from a celebrity at all times. The most amusing sight Friday was seeing someone in a Stones shirt walking down the street, see all the people on the sidewalk and cross the street to avoid us, obliviously continuing on.

Turns out AC/DC rehearsed the same place and you could hear clearly outside. I asked someone who was there "did you they play anything not in the Indio setlist?" "I didn't see the Indio setlist." Would have loved more details to share but I can only work with what info I have! Not many historians among us. There were also people there listening for weeks prior but no one is posting the details. I have a friend who lives on that block who is going to keep an eye on the place but there are really few acts that can carve a set out of a list of 60 songs, trying and discarding from a sizeable back catalog.

At least the final week is where we hear the show come together. It's obvious they want to play a lot of new songs, keep rotating album cuts as well as the play the same songs they always do. Friday is when they reluctantly took out the scalpel and cut out some parts no one really wants to see go. They aren't going to play 4 hours and play an all new song / deep cut set at a random midwestern stadium show where the cost of admission is equal to a mortgage payment. My own preference is for as many new songs as possible but I am sure they going to give us a decent show regardless of what contents they ultimately choose to include.



Monday 4/15/24

Start Me Up
Get Off My Cloud
Honky Tonk Women
Sympathy For The Devil
Paint It Black
Jumpin' Jack Flash (full -> partial -> full)
Street Fighting Man
Shattered
Angry (twice)
Mess It Up (twice)
Sweet Sounds Of Heaven
Depending On You (twice)
Sad Sad Sad
Out Of Time
Wild Horses

Tuesday 4/16/24

Miss You
Bite My Head Off
Rocks Off
Out Of Control
Dead Flowers
Whole Wide World
Live By The Sword
Live With Me
Far Away Eyes
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Tell Me Straight
Little T&A

4/17/24 (they play an obvious first half of a set, then take a long break)

Start Me Up
Get Off My Cloud
Angry
Out Of Time
Mess It Up
She's A Rainbow
Sweet Sounds Of Heaven
Tumbling Dice
Like A Rolling Stone
Honky Tonk Women
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Whole Wide World
Beast Of Burden
Emotional Rescue
Fool To Cry
Gimme Shelter
Midnight Rambler

4/18/24 (obvious second half of set, then long break)

Get Close (mainly Steve with others joining in working on intro for awhile)
Sympathy For The Devil
Gimme Shelter
Miss You
Paint It Black
Jumpin' Jack Flash
Sweet Sounds Of Heaven
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
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Bitch
It's Only Rock 'N' Roll
Shattered
She's So Cold
All Down The Line
Monkey Man (full -> partial -> full)
Sweet Virginia
Tell Me Straight


I was planning on heading out to the Mavis Staples 85th all-star birthday party where tickets were languishing at $5 on the secondary but during Monkey Man I just knew I wasn't going to pull myself away.

4/19/24 (final day, set played straight through, obviously a prototype setlist)

Start Me Up
Get Off My Cloud
Shattered
Out Of Time
Angry
Beast Of Burden
Whole Wide World
Tumbling Dice
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Tell Me Straight
Little T&A
Sympathy For The Devil
Gimme Shelter
Honky Tonk Women
Miss You
Paint It Black
Jumpin' Jack Flash
Sweet Sounds Of Heaven
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction

Last 2 songs definitely structured as an encore.

Paul McCartney was spotted leaving in a blue Corvette. It was a pink one in 2013. Missed opportunity. Wish I could have taken you on a similar journey to 2013 but there wasn't really much to do but lean against the wall and write down songs in a very reduced time frame.

My friend, who was mistaken for a construction foreman for a job site on that block chatted up the truck drivers for a bit but they claimed to have no idea where they are headed or when they are leaving.

And I still have spare LD's for Houston and Glendale in exchange for logistical assistance (though Houston is mostly booked)

AddL. Taylor without retirement .

Thank you Dan!

Great stuff. Thanks, Dan.