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loog droog
The recognition for him is overdue, but I agree that this doc is underwhelming and has the approach and look of a YouTube video.
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maidenlane
Sadly, the centi-millionaires who paid Nicky union scale for records they made millions and careers off of aren't ponying-up the half a million or more it would take to honor their memories with a slick HBO-level documentary.
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Big Al
The documentary looks really interesting.
I almost wish someone would finance a documentary on Jimmy Page's 1963-1966 career as a session musician, which would be equally as fascinating.
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Sadly, the centi-millionaires who paid Nicky union scale for records they made millions and careers off of aren't ponying-up the half a million or more it would take to honor their memories with a slick HBO-level documentary.
I do not know if this is all true -Nicky was extremely in demand as a session player in the 1960's and early 1970's and was paid top dollar for his work. What is seen as unfair is the amount of royalties he received for his work, which is minimal mechanic royalties. But, these royalties were the same for say, Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts would receive for their work.
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Sadly, the centi-millionaires who paid Nicky union scale for records they made millions and careers off of aren't ponying-up the half a million or more it would take to honor their memories with a slick HBO-level documentary.
I do not know if this is all true -Nicky was extremely in demand as a session player in the 1960's and early 1970's and was paid top dollar for his work. What is seen as unfair is the amount of royalties he received for his work, which is minimal mechanic royalties. But, these royalties were the same for say, Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts would receive for their work.
£ 6.10 (roughly £ 150 in today's money) doesn't look like top dollars to me.
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maidenlane
Sadly, the centi-millionaires who paid Nicky union scale for records they made millions and careers off of aren't ponying-up the half a million or more it would take to honor their memories with a slick HBO-level documentary.
I do not know if this is all true -Nicky was extremely in demand as a session player in the 1960's and early 1970's and was paid top dollar for his work. What is seen as unfair is the amount of royalties he received for his work, which is minimal mechanic royalties. But, these royalties were the same for say, Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts would receive for their work.
£ 6.10 (roughly £ 150 in today's money) doesn't look like top dollars to me.
Some perspective: average wage for a clerk in England in 1968 was £1357, about £25,000 in todays money, with tax as low as 2%.
Let's say Nicky did two sessions a day for £7 each, for 5 days a week for a year and he would have made £2800, or £52,000 in todays money. Tax in those days were a factor of 10 lower.
We know all those great session players, like Jimmy Page and Nicky Hopkins, did way more sessions than 2 per day. They did 5 per day, for 7 days a week, raising their income to way over what a doctor or dentist would earn.
From Bobby Keys book we know all these session men were living in country houses, and living quite a luxurious live. No they didn't earn the big money Jagger and Richards would earn (literally millions), but they were paid well for their work. Main issue is: no work means no income, and that's what most experienced once the drug and alcohol dependencies kicked in.
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gotdablouse
Also there's this weird passage where they say he auditioned for Wings and that his wife thinks he wasn't hired because Linda might have felt threatened ?! AFAIK he only worked with McCartney in 1988 for "Flowers in the Dirt" when Wings was long gone and is only credited on "That Day Is Done" and on the "Same Love" B-side.
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maidenlane
Sadly, the centi-millionaires who paid Nicky union scale for records they made millions and careers off of aren't ponying-up the half a million or more it would take to honor their memories with a slick HBO-level documentary.
I do not know if this is all true -Nicky was extremely in demand as a session player in the 1960's and early 1970's and was paid top dollar for his work. What is seen as unfair is the amount of royalties he received for his work, which is minimal mechanic royalties. But, these royalties were the same for say, Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts would receive for their work.
£ 6.10 (roughly £ 150 in today's money) doesn't look like top dollars to me.
Some perspective: average wage for a clerk in England in 1968 was £1357, about £25,000 in todays money, with tax as low as 2%.
Let's say Nicky did two sessions a day for £7 each, for 5 days a week for a year and he would have made £2800, or £52,000 in todays money. Tax in those days were a factor of 10 lower.
We know all those great session players, like Jimmy Page and Nicky Hopkins, did way more sessions than 2 per day. They did 5 per day, for 7 days a week, raising their income to way over what a doctor or dentist would earn.
From Bobby Keys book we know all these session men were living in country houses, and living quite a luxurious live. No they didn't earn the big money Jagger and Richards would earn (literally millions), but they were paid well for their work. Main issue is: no work means no income, and that's what most experienced once the drug and alcohol dependencies kicked in.
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maidenlane
Sadly, the centi-millionaires who paid Nicky union scale for records they made millions and careers off of aren't ponying-up the half a million or more it would take to honor their memories with a slick HBO-level documentary.
I do not know if this is all true -Nicky was extremely in demand as a session player in the 1960's and early 1970's and was paid top dollar for his work. What is seen as unfair is the amount of royalties he received for his work, which is minimal mechanic royalties. But, these royalties were the same for say, Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts would receive for their work.
£ 6.10 (roughly £ 150 in today's money) doesn't look like top dollars to me.
Some perspective: average wage for a clerk in England in 1968 was £1357, about £25,000 in todays money, with tax as low as 2%.
Let's say Nicky did two sessions a day for £7 each, for 5 days a week for a year and he would have made £2800, or £52,000 in todays money. Tax in those days were a factor of 10 lower.
We know all those great session players, like Jimmy Page and Nicky Hopkins, did way more sessions than 2 per day. They did 5 per day, for 7 days a week, raising their income to way over what a doctor or dentist would earn.
From Bobby Keys book we know all these session men were living in country houses, and living quite a luxurious live. No they didn't earn the big money Jagger and Richards would earn (literally millions), but they were paid well for their work. Main issue is: no work means no income, and that's what most experienced once the drug and alcohol dependencies kicked in.
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The main point was about Nicky getting paid union scale wages, which seems it was the case.