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IORR is the world's most busy and popular private Stones web site with several hundred thousand visitors every month, from more than 130 countries. Multi-language, multi-cultural, multi-religion etc. There is no room for street talk and silly jokes, bad language etc. Just the same reason as you will never find such talk in your main newspapers.

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Bjornulf

what was happend BV???why you wrote this?

No worries. But there have been personal posts and comments about the policy here on the forum. I never reply to those as a principle. If you have a message to me - the editor of iorr - then feel free to send an e-mail to me at iorr@arena.no - and I will do my best to reply. There have been a few personal posts i.e. discussing non-public individuals and it talkes up my time to delete these. I will keep deleting them as long as they show up. Bad language, offending posts and repeated posts that I have to clean out take time while I have other things to do. IORR is a non-profit think I do in my spare time. It is not a profdessional site. Some people think this is a free place. Well it is as long as you show normal manners. And I am the one who decide what is normal manners. I am pretty flexible but I don't allow toilet talk or other undecent or irrelevant talk. And naming private people is like asking for being deleted. No reson for that.

PS. Just think of IORR as a regular newspaper. What they print. Not an XXX paper but the regular one you read and your parents and your collegues and the rest of your family. It's just that it is more dedicated to one subject. Stones. You will never see reprints from toilet walls or names of private people without their approval in these media. And IORR is even more sensitive. We are cross country cross continent so even if language and talk sounds ok for you locally it ma be truely offending in other parts of the world. So all it takes is thinking for 5-10 seconds before you push the Post button.

Bjornulf

And I suppose if you argue about this - you will also be deleted........

Thank you for taking a moment to refresh us all. This is one of the most unique boards on the net simply due to the dedication of everyone involved. There is a constant flow of new faces on the boards every day. I dare say that this forum is probably one of the cleanest places to find information and good discussion on our favorite band. This is one of the few sites I check every day atleast once. Thanks again.

Sounds reasonable. Those who prefer a nihilistic, no holds barred site can always find them elsewhere.

No rules usually means "no rules except mine." That's not okay if you don't run the site.

thank you for this splendid site, Bjornulf.


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

Thanks for all your hard work bv! Long may it continue.

I think I've bust a button on my trousers....

Concerning offensive language, is it ok to cite the lyrics of Star Star when talking about the relationships of Mr Jagger, say? I would say so. In my opinion, one should interpret the rules with a certain generosity, for otherwise, one excludes 1/3 of the Stones songs from the
discussion.

But it's ok to delete threads which are purposefully off-topic, offensive language or not.

Yeah, of course it's ok to cite the lyrics from @#$%&. Or is it?

@#$%&
(M. Jagger/K. Richards)

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-11-14 00:33 by bv.

when atlantic records 1st heard @#$%&, there was no way their lawyers wanted that on the album ,they argued they would get busted 4 sellin porn ,offering 1st, the title ,2nd, an explicit reference in the 2nd verse 2 vaginal freshness & 3rd, the line about groupie giving head 2 steve Mcqueen,after all that when it came time 2 compile a mini 4 track juke box type lp 2 promote the album, atlantic not only included the retitled star star ,but placed it as the opening cut on side 1

It is either very hard to understand or people are stretching my patience. No. It is NOT ok to do and say anything the Stones do and say here. What on earth made you believe that. They did a song called CS Blues. Totally offensive but it served it's purpose. But you are not supposed to quote or list it here. To post the lyrics of Star Star is making extra work for me and I don't even bother to see who posted it but I will clean it out. Keith is smoking on stage but it is not acceptable to smoke in elevators or in hotel lobbys or other public places places anymore. Mick is throwing his water bottle into the crowd but you can not do that at home or any other public place like here. And Mick is crawling all over Lisa's body at times on stage as a performance, but you don't do that on the underground or in the cinemas or at any public place. It should not be so hard to understand. All it takes is a little bit of fantasy, some respect and some understanding.

If you live your life with all the good and bad sides the Stones ever did or do then fine with me but that is not acceptable here. Would your newspaper print the lyrics of Star Star or CS Blues on the front page, or on any other page? I don't think so. Please do get it. This is a civilized place. Not a playground for people who never got allowed to use bad language at home. Or may be never were told not to do it.

Bjornulf

Thanks for the site Bjornulf. Great job!

sorry bv, i'll try to clean up my act!

im sorry 2 bv ,i thought the word was gonna get scrambled though ,i wont post curse words no more & tank u 4 this great site

Bjornulf,

You are obviously a person who likes to use metaphors. That's fine with me - but I don't think that something is justified just because of a metaphor, some of them are good and valid, others are not so valid. The newspaper metaphor is one of the latter, in my opinion.

The Financial Times are a serious newspaper, they are dedicated to business matters. But I do believe sometimes they also mention sports, politics and hey - they might actually have a little column with a funny joke or a nice story.

Le Monde is also serious paper, yesterday they mentioned "sex" in an article - I couldn't believe my eyes...

Now these papers are dedicated to politics, business - IORR is dedicated to the Stones, but what is left to talk about the Stones if we are not even allowed to talk about their lyrics (not quoting @#$%& Blues :O come on!), the meaning of the lyrics or mention a joke or a funny story even now and then. The Stones are not a band for children, they are sometimes controversial and that also makes them interesting. I kindly ask you to give us the space to talk about all that, including silly jokes, beavers, etc.
Maybe you could create an "Off Topic" section for that - perhaps that would be a compromise.

I think I'm not the only one who thinks like that - voice your opinion, please.
If I turn out to be the only one with this opinion, I'll not bother anyone with my posts here anymore.

Lorenz

P.S. I'll send this post to your email address too.

There are a few boring papers like Financial Times (but not boring if you are into finance), and there are a few not so serious papers, like The SUN and News of the World in UK, they actually print pictures of nude girls on page 5 or whatever, which I don't see the point in (after all if you want nude women picturs there's plenty of magazines like Playboy etc but may be you are not allowed by your wife or girl friend to read that so you have to settle with The Sun may be). Or at least I would not call it a serious paper. And then you have all those others who are in the middle, being pretty good and ok for language, style and contents.

IORR is not like Financial Times, and not like the Sun, but somewhere in-between. And it is my job to keep it in the middle every time people try to bring it too far out.

Bjornulf

Has the Stones ever been in "the middle"?
...

I demand my rights for co-authorship to that, Lorenz.

I, for example, know I like to push the boundaries, but I like to think that's still entertaining. If someone else doesn't, it's fine with me. Because whatever someones opinion, I know I don't shout, I don't insult, I'm not rude or anti-social. Not in everyday life, not on the internet. And I hardly use the word "I".

Moreover, I try to check grammar, spelling and interpunction for as far as my knowledge reaches. And I contemplate before I post. Then every post has its function, even the silly ones.

I think if everybody did just that, the reading here would be more informing and more entertaining.

I will not however, respond to a request to turn my character off.

Then the real unchallenged anonimous writing would start. I like to see peoples characters, even if they're bitches that make you blush.

I think an off-topc section would be a good idea, of which people would know they wouldn't have to go into if they were easily distracted. Of course you can say OT can be posted in a board of the respective topic, but hey, we're Stonesfans. We like to share or views on humour, food and animals with other Stonesfans. I skip the sports in my newspaper too, but I don't mind it being in there, because I know some people who like me choose the lefty paper like sports. How's that for a metaphor?

I hope you don't mind us responding to your post here, bv.

The best OT subject are jokes. Keep 'em coming. Nice to have some relief at times, even from the Stones. It reminds us to not take ourselves too seriously.

"Has the Stones ever been in "the middle"?"

No, they've always been pretty sexy. The Stones fans are sexy (mostly). I want this site to be sexy.
What's the reason to love the Stones? Apart from the music, apart from millions of other reasons, isn't it also the lyrics to @#$%& Blues and similar songs? And isn't it the sense for humour they obviously have? Of course it is But then there must be space for such things on a stones site, I would say.

As for myself, I absolutely agree with Lorenz and Limbostone (and of course with mistress, whose message I qouted whole, the others are just too long for that...). Thanks.
Martina

Bjornulf, I applaud you! It's about time things got squeeky clean around here! Good job.

Thanks for a great site. Sorry if I sometimes push the boundries, as I like a good laugh. Would never try to offend anyone or hurt anyones feelings. Enjoy the input and knowledge I get from my fellow Stones fan(atics). Thanks again!

Good grief...it's Bjornulf's site, he can do what he wants. If you don't like it, start your own site. End of discussion.

It's a great pleasure and a PRIVILEGE, not a right, to be able to air opinions and ask questions here. Many thanks.

Yeah, sure it's Bjornulf's website. But at the end of the day it's the people that contribute to it and make it interesting. And I wonder if it's still so good and interesting witout the occasional joke, funny picture or story.

Btw, you are sure it's not a right to air opinions?


Belgrade-Bucharest-Budapest-Brno

What I wanted to point out, Bjornulf, is that so far, you didn't complain about
people mentioning A Bigger B*** or She Saw Me ***ing. And justly so. It's rather
harmless - it's just Mick Jagger who likes to feel young as a teenager in his lyrics.

This has got to be the most stupid thread ever.
Best wishes.

I can't say I disagree with Bjornulf
on the concept of this web forum, as well as every other one on the web, could stand a little "forced evolution" to allow us to really communicate and talk to each other, without the high school name calling freqently lowerd to by persons who will remained unnamed. At the same time, we are adults, who come from a variety of backgrounds and assume the verbage of any number of "patois" out there in this every shirinking real world. I don't mind limits personally, but lets all try to be reasonable here, lets reflect reality instead of juvinille fantasy/personality disturbance.

bv Wrote:
>
> IORR is not like Financial Times, and not like the
> Sun, but somewhere in-between.

Amen !

Bjornulf, I really like this one .
It can printed on a IORR T-Shirt with a Keith photo ...

Thank you for all the very good job you are doing.

An IORR t-shirt, is a great idea... anyone in the t-shirt printing business?