At least the SMU/Windows one was related to something hip-ish (at the time)...
Sometimes I feel as if they are making a point at not to be taken "seriously" anymore...

I think its very appropriate

with Stones ticket prices the way they are, many fans will have to re-mortgage their homes by the time the tour is over.

I think its very considerate that between them, the Stones and AmeriQuest have come up with such an arrangement....

Dem boyz is hoes, that's what I think!

Karl

Gazza: LOL!!

yeah, its apt OK with those prices

I'm only surprised they didnt suggest Vaseline for the tour sponsor

Gazza Wrote:
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> I think its very appropriate
>
> with Stones ticket prices the way they are, many
> fans will have to re-mortgage their homes by the
> time the tour is over.
>
> I think its very considerate that between them,
> the Stones and AmeriQuest have come up with such
> an arrangement....


What I hate about those commercials is how deliberately un-hip the spokespeople are. It's as if the Stones are saying "This is the kind of person we want to come to our concerts; people with money who are so un-hip they think we are still cool and too unknowledgeable to know the difference when we do a bad show."

I remember when they had a perfume company sponsor their '81 tour, and when they played at Trump's in '89. I thought "Don't they know that that is so uncool? How would Keith ALLOW them to do something so uncool?" I have learned not to expect any more cool moves from them.

does jagger ever take a financial risk anymore, since 1981 when all the tours were fronted by corporate $$$$$$

> What I hate about those commercials is how
> deliberately un-hip the spokespeople are. It's as
> if the Stones are saying "This is the kind of
> person we want to come to our concerts; people
> with money who are so un-hip they think we are
> still cool and too unknowledgeable to know the
> difference when we do a bad show."

which for the most part is the case


>
> I remember when they had a perfume company sponsor
> their '81 tour, and when they played at Trump's in
> '89. I thought "Don't they know that that is so
> uncool? How would Keith ALLOW them to do something
> so uncool?"

maybe Keith's not as 'cool' and as ambivalent to raking in millions of dollars a week as a lot of people give him credit for? Theres 4 in this band, and any business decision is made by them as a group. Mick's an easy target, but he has only one vote in four. If he deserves flak for making business decisions that seem greedy and "un-cool" then they all do

>Open G wrote
does jagger ever take a financial risk anymore, since 1981 when all the tours were fronted by corporate $$$$$$

Again, its not just Jagger. I dont have a problem with tours being sponsored. Its a business after all, and a risky one to book 40-50 stadiums before you release a new record, just assuming people are going to fill them. No one enters into a business deal lightly that they think may lose them money. If they can get some company to undercut their costs and give them money up front, good for them. However back in '81 and up until relatively recently, the affects from the corporate side of things went relatively unnoticed as far as fans were concerned. These days however they place more emphasis on that type of customer (I refuse to use the word 'fan') than the people who have supported their music through the decades

Let's face it, it's not the 60s anymore and rock and roll isn;t about rebellion and the anti-establishment. Gansta Rap has taken that over but even that is commercialized and packaged up like cars that will be the next coming of Jesus like the Lexus 29000, "the car that will save the world". I personally don't mind seeing the band for 30 seconds and hearing SMU during a commercial break from one of my wife's dumb-ass reality shows.

thats Corporate America

Cafaro Wrote:
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> Let's face it, it's not the 60s anymore and rock
> and roll isn;t about rebellion and the
> anti-establishment.

I know, but everything doesnt have to be SO black and white between being what it stood for 40 years ago and what its become

Itd be nice if the music and the fans still mattered to some degree

they also have "start me up" on an ad for the nfl fantasy football league thats been running a few weeks already on nflnetwork.

I try to avoid them just like I tried to avoid this thread until there it is, right up in front of you. Then I change the channel for a minute.