Well I think Dylan did it first with Subterranean Homesick Blues. Add to that all his talking blues numbers as well.

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Well I think Dylan did it first with Subterranean Homesick Blues. Add to that all his talking blues numbers as well.

Aye I'll give you that.

What a drag it is gettin' old

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Well I think Dylan did it first with Subterranean Homesick Blues. Add to that all his talking blues numbers as well.

But was it rock and roll?

The Wilson sisters say this song is based on Miss You's rhythm.

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Well, you could say that the Rolling Stones brought rock to Disco. And you could say that the Stones were the first to bring rock to rap, with Mick's spoken word section.

I think most consider Lou Reed the original wrapper.

I always consider Memo from Turner to be the closest thing to Rap before it Rap was created. winking smiley

Well it sounds that way to me anyway!

Lou Reed wasn't rapping--he was talking because he couldn't actually sing.

Some would say the first true "rap" record was a single released in 1968 by soul and comedy singer David "Pigmeat" Markham (on the Chess label). Still sounds modern. The clip below also has the B-side, The Trial.







Another well-known early rap record (really a spoken-word poem) is Whitey On The Moon by Gil Scott-Heron from 1970.

Rappin' Bo Diddley - Say Man 1958 and as for Dylan's talking blues
style he borrowed it in barrow loads from Chris Bouchillon and Woody Guthrie...
But heck that ain't the only thing he got from Guthrie ... he even paints like the guy..



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Well, you could say that the Rolling Stones brought rock to Disco. And you could say that the Stones were the first to bring rock to rap, with Mick's spoken word section.

I always consider Memo from Turner to be the closest thing to Rap before it Rap was created.

Well it sounds that way to me anyway!

You need to get Velvet Underground and Nico

its a soul song

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One of their best songs ever! It transcends just disco, it is just a great rock and roll song that you can move too,same goes for Honky Tonk Women, Brown Sugar.



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The term 'rock' didn't exist when the Stones were formed.

When did the term come into use?

There are songs with rock and roll in it from the 30's and 40's, and certainly the 50's, not to mention a host of movies.

gazza what are you talking about. The term was used in the 50's long before The Stones. You can hear it used in many 50's rebel movies.

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The term 'rock' didn't exist when the Stones were formed.

When did the term come into use?

There are songs with rock and roll in it from the 30's and 40's, and certainly the 50's, not to mention a host of movies.

gazza what are you talking about. The term was used in the 50's long before The Stones. You can hear it used in many 50's rebel movies.

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Try reading what I said in the context of the comment that I was replying to. Its even in the title of the link you posted. 'Rock' - not 'rock n roll'. The latter term goes back to the 30s at least.

No one talked about 'rock' music when the Stones were starting out. Its a mid 60's expression.

I'm well aware that the expression 'rock n roll' was common in the 50's. I'd imagine pretty much 99% of the western world would be.



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The Wilson sisters say this song is based on Miss You's rhythm.

They have a point. But the album it's from, Dog & Butterfly, wasn't released until October, 1978, some 5 months after Miss You was released. Was the single released earlier? I think Miss You would have been done for some time before that.