Keith Richards and drummer-songwriter Steve Jordan talk about
‘Crosseyed Heart’Mark Seliger 2015
By Neil Shah
Sept. 15, 2015 11:03 a.m. ET
Keith Richards wasn’t playing much guitar. After promoting his 2010 memoir, “Life,” the 71-year-old Rolling Stone was focused on his family, not fingerpicking. He even collaborated with his daughter, Theodora, on a children’s book about his grandfather.
Then he bumped into an old buddy and got pulled back in.
On Friday, Mr. Richards releases “Crosseyed Heart,” his first solo album in more than 20 years. There’s a new film documentary about him, “Keith Richards: Under the Influence,” on Netflix. His band when he isn’t playing with the Stones, the X-Pensive Winos—named for a bottle of Château Lafite they once drank in the studio—may tour again, too.
The man responsible for Mr. Richards’s getting his groove back is Steve Jordan, a drummer for “Late Night With David Letterman” in the early 1980s who has shepherded Mr. Richards’s previous solo records. They work together in a certain way, one that recalls the glory days of the Stones.
“Steve said to me, ‘How did you make, you know, “Jumpin’ Jack Flash,” “Street Fighting Man” and some of those others?’” Mr. Richards says. “I said, well, I got in the studio with Charlie Watts, and we cut the tracks, just guitar and drums. And so Steve looked at me and said, ‘Well? You know, I’m a drummer!’
“Crosseyed Heart,” an intimate collection of rootsy rockers and ballads, is rawer than a typical Rolling Stones record. Like Mr. Richards’s previous albums, 1988’s “Talk is Cheap” and 1992’s “Main Offender,” it is more about funky grooves and catchy melodies than technologically enhanced vocals and sweetened production.
“You can’t start overdubbing stuff to make it feel better,” says Mr. Jordan, 58. “Keith agrees with me. If we don’t have it between the two of us, we don’t have anything.”
For 30 years, Mr. Jordan has been Mr. Richards’s “other Mick,” his musical partner when the Stones weren’t working—or were fighting.
It started when Mr. Jordan befriended Stones drummer Charlie Watts when the band played “Saturday Night Live” in 1978 (Mr. Jordan was then SNL’s drummer). Mr. Jordan invited Mr. Watts to watch the baseball playoffs in a dressing room; the two traded knowledge about baseball and cricket.
Seven years later, while working in Paris, Mr. Jordan caught wind that the Stones were jamming nearby and sent a message to Mr. Watts through a roadie; Mr. Watts invited him to the Stones’ studio, where the band was assembling what became 1986’s “Dirty Work.”
It was a difficult time for the Stones, when the bickering between Mr. Richards and singer Mick Jagger was at its worst. Mr. Richards saw Mr. Jagger’s burgeoning solo ambitions as a betrayal, he wrote in his book.
Jumping in a cab on a freezing-cold night, Mr. Jordan struggled to find Pathé Marconi, the studio—but the Stones’ playing was loud enough that he was able to follow it, on foot, until he found the door.
Mr. Richards, Mr. Jagger and the band were set up as if they were playing live; just a few other folks were around, including Mr. Richards’s father, Bert, on a couch. “It was the perfect concert,” Mr. Jordan says.
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Mr. Jordan began helping regularly with preproduction duties. With Mr. Jagger often absent, he supplied dummy lead vocals every other day or so to help the Stones rehearse, Mr. Jordan says. Mr. Watts, at the time battling drug addiction, asked Mr. Jordan to play some drums on the album, but Mr. Jordan declined to fill in, he says. Instead, he helped with percussion, like playing tambourine and bass drum on a cover song, “Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever,” that was never released.
What touched Mr. Richards was when Mr. Jordan noticed something in his voice.
For the song “Sleep Tonight,” which ends “Dirty Work,” Mr. Richards sings in a low, deep tone—one Mr. Jordan found powerful and intense; he encouraged Mr. Richards to develop it.
“I said to myself, if I ever get a chance to work with this guy, I’m going to have him sing down in that octave,” Mr. Jordan says. Over the years, Mr. Richards has used that lower register frequently, particularly on ballads.
Steve Jordan and Keith Richards at Germano Studios in New York 2015. PHOTO: KEVIN MAZUR
Paris led to jams and songwriting sessions with Mr. Richards in New York and Jamaica. The two then collaborated on concerts for the 1987 film “Chuck Berry Hail! Hail! Rock ’n’ roll.”
“Steve and I found, hey, we can write,” Mr. Richards says in his memoir. “He’s the only one. It’s either going to be Jagger/Richards or Jordan/Richards.”
When Mr. Richards decided to cut 1988’s “Talk is Cheap,” Mr. Jordan was “the man to start with,” according to Mr. Richards. After hammering out the basic tracks with Mr. Richards, Mr. Jordan helped him assemble the X-Pensive Winos, and brought in his favorite engineer, Don Smith, who later worked on the Stones’s 1994 album, “Voodoo Lounge.”
When Mr. Jordan coaxed Mr. Richards into New York’s One East Recording studio in 2011 to play for a few hours, Mr. Richards felt a little rusty.
“He just hadn’t been playing,” Mr. Jordan says. “That was kind of weird for a lot of people that are close to him.” Mr. Richards even mentioned retirement. Mr. Jordan told him: “That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.” Mr. Richards’s strength improved. “The rust started to come off,” Mr. Jordan says.
“We had a great time, and I think it was the fun of playing with Steve—and just the simplicity of what we were doing,” Mr. Richards says. “I was starting to get that edge, that feel, back.”
They began getting together twice a week, from about 2 p.m. to 7:30 p.m., keeping the tape rolling.
“It’s like a therapy session, really,” says Waddy Wachtel, a top session guitarist and member of the X-Pensive Winos. “Steve and Keith are very, very close. And you can feel it—and see it—when they play together ... Their eyes are locked on each other.”
Mr. Jordan’s loose, funky drumming style lets Mr. Richards indulge in the staccato guitar improvisations that are his signature style—without losing the groove that drives their songs.
Mr. Jordan “has an incredible, innate sense of rhythm. To me, a lot of it is like playing with Charlie, but with a different style, of course,” Mr. Richards says. “It’s very rare to find…a drummer that turns you on.”
Three years later, they found themselves sitting on a trove of songs. “Crosseyed Heart” “wasn’t conceived as an album,” Mr. Richards says, “but it sort of conceived itself.”
The duo’s bare-bones, garage-rock approach is different from how Mick and Keith work. Mr. Richards rarely sees Mr. Jagger unless the Stones are performing. Since the 1970s they have written separately and combined ideas during recording sessions. The Stones’s last full album was released in 2005.
With Mr. Jordan, it’s two musicians in a room—guitar and drums, much the way a younger Mr. Richards jammed with Mr. Watts. They don’t talk much when playing. “With two people, it’s so uncomplicated,” Mr. Richards says.
For “Crosseyed Heart,” they sometimes sat in front of a television watching CNN and jotting down lyrics on legal pads. Some tunes, including “Robbed Blind,” Mr. Richards wrote alone.
Once they were pleased with their basic tracks, Mr. Jordan enlisted X-Pensive Winos members, including pianist Ivan Neville, and other guests. Singers Bernard Fowler, Sarah Dash and the late Babi Floyd—members of Mr. Richards’s extended circle—make appearances, as do late sax sideman Bobby Keys and bassist Pino Palladino.
The first song they finished, “One More Shot,” isn’t actually on the album. Mr. Richards asked if he could give it to the Stones to record, and Mr. Jordan agreed; it’s on the band’s 2012 greatest-hits compilation “GRRR!”.
“Our version is, to me, much better—but that’s just my opinion,” Mr. Jordan says with a laugh.