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OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: February 9, 2013 23:22


Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: February 9, 2013 23:29

They did.

That were the most important thing in the world once.

Well.. my world.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: February 10, 2013 00:28

The documentary has inspired me to download Tapestry by Carole King. What a terrific record that is.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: February 10, 2013 01:02

Believe it or not, album sales are making a comeback in the US

18 months ago you could have gotten a top ten album with weekly sales of
just 10,000 units (like tom waits did). Now it takes 30,000.

18 months ago, Grrrr would have been a top ten album, instead of only making
it to #26

kids have finally figured out that it makes more sense to download katy perry's
entire album for 10 bucks instead of downloading 5 of her singles for about the
same amount

18 months ago there was the real possibility that artists would no longer make
albums, just singles. I suppose that still could happen, hits radio and singles
sales still totally dominate, but the demise of the album as a requirement
of stardom has been postponed at the very least.

one thing about these new pop artists is that unlike many in the past it is
no longer two hits and ten pieces of filler. they actually aim for every
track to be potentially a single, and then after the first single they let
radio and the market decide which tracks are eventually officially released as
singles. for example, according to wikipedia, 14 out of the 15 (!) tracks on
rihanna's latest have already charted as singles somewhere in north america
or europe, even though only three have so far been officially released as
singles. her management just watches which one is doing best, then do a
video for it, and presto you've got an instant already market-tested hit.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: February 10, 2013 01:07

Can't see it here in the US...oh well, thanks anyway Big Al. smiling smiley

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 10, 2013 11:23

Edit: All taken care of by the gallant HM. Thank you! :E



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Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 10, 2013 15:27

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Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: tomcasagranda ()
Date: February 10, 2013 16:15

I loved it, and watched it last night, as it was repeated on BBC4.

It made me dig out What's Going On this morning, and yes, it's still great.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: uhbuhgullayew ()
Date: February 10, 2013 17:19

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superrevvy
Believe it or not, album sales are making a comeback in the US

Is a CD considered to be an album? Thought that an album was on vinyl.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 10, 2013 17:46

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uhbuhgullayew


Is a CD considered to be an album?

Yes.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: February 10, 2013 23:56

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uhbuhgullayew
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superrevvy
Believe it or not, album sales are making a comeback in the US

Is a CD considered to be an album? Thought that an album was on vinyl.

A CD is still a "record", because a record is just short for recording. The Grammys still have a category for Record of the Year. Likewise, album does not refer specifically to the type of material, but is just a collection of items in a single package, like a photo album or a record album.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Date: February 11, 2013 04:38

I miss the Side 1 and 2 distinctions a lot though.
Sequencing was such an art. The end song of Side 1 e.g.. Or when you had a dark and light side, a slow and fast. But those are easy, block choices. It is way more subtle and refined to study the sequencing on the classic albums that are not too obvious.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 11, 2013 04:52

I miss the Side 1 and 2 distinctions a lot though.

Heck yeah ...you ain't kiddin' .... Started with first album
After knockin ya self about with that first side ... ya flipped it
and it's KING BEE.... Carol ...Tell Me rattlin' right thru to the DOG ..



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: February 11, 2013 05:00

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Palace Revolution 2000
I miss the Side 1 and 2 distinctions a lot though.
Sequencing was such an art. The end song of Side 1 e.g.. Or when you had a dark and light side, a slow and fast. But those are easy, block choices. It is way more subtle and refined to study the sequencing on the classic albums that are not too obvious.

But when you were stoned in your bedroom with the lights out and listening to Dark Side Of the Moon, wasn't it a nuisance to always have to rouse yourself to turn the record over when instead now you can just vegetate for another 20 minutes until the record has ended?

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 11, 2013 07:23





ROCKMAN

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: windmelody ()
Date: February 11, 2013 08:35

It is regretable that albums became unimportant. But record companies lost touch with reality in the nineties. In the nineties there were suggestions made that albums should become much more expensive. At the same time almost every act recorded albums with maybe five decent tracks and at least five fillers. Remember the idiotic "Nevermind" trend to leave twenty minutes without music on the disc? The internet was ignored, and that strategy was bound to fail.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: February 11, 2013 09:28

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tomcasagranda
I loved it, and watched it last night, as it was repeated on BBC4.

Me too.

I liked Noel Gallagher talking about Never Mind the Bollocks.

It was a great program, like having half your life flash before your eyes.

It nearly made me want to buy a Yes album.

Nearly,

I'm definitely going to buy LA Woman (another BBC4 program on the same night).

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: nashville ()
Date: February 11, 2013 12:59

A really interesting documentary and the 3 programmes on earlier in the week were quite good too. If you did not see them they were hosted by Danny Baker with 3 guests who discussed Rock, Pop and R&B vinyl favourites. The pop programme was the weakest to me (Sisters of Mercy - pop?). Each programme had a Bakers' dozen (13) albums on their wall of fame. Not necessarily the greatest albums in those genres but personal favourites - that was what made the programmes different.

Andy

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: February 11, 2013 13:42

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His Majesty
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uhbuhgullayew


Is a CD considered to be an album?

Yes.

Ya can't roll a spliff on a bleedin' CD fer gawd's sake, so how can it be?

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: February 11, 2013 13:43

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GravityBoy
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tomcasagranda
I loved it, and watched it last night, as it was repeated on BBC4.

Me too.

I liked Noel Gallagher talking about Never Mind the Bollocks.

It was a great program, like having half your life flash before your eyes.

It nearly made me want to buy a Yes album.

Nearly,

I'm definitely going to buy LA Woman (another BBC4 program on the same night).

Nothing wrong with a bit of Yes now and again. Keep your mind open.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: rebelrebel ()
Date: February 13, 2013 23:22

Finally watched it and very good too. Thanks for posting. Biggest reactions were that I still think Wish You Were Here is vastly superior to Dark Side Of The Moon and that Tony Parson's, (who I like), is really talking bollocks when he says that the Stones and Bowie were washed up pre-punk. Black & Blue was a good album and as for Station to Station/Low/Heroe's - well I needn't add anything.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: Undercover1 ()
Date: February 13, 2013 23:56

Anywhere I can see this in the USA? online viewing?

Undercover1

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: tomcasagranda ()
Date: February 14, 2013 00:05

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Silver Dagger
Quote
GravityBoy
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tomcasagranda
I loved it, and watched it last night, as it was repeated on BBC4.

Me too.

I liked Noel Gallagher talking about Never Mind the Bollocks.

It was a great program, like having half your life flash before your eyes.

It nearly made me want to buy a Yes album.

Nearly,

I'm definitely going to buy LA Woman (another BBC4 program on the same night).

Nothing wrong with a bit of Yes now and again. Keep your mind open.


It's the covers that put me off. I love King Crimson, Jethro Tull, and some Moody Blues, but Yes is a no-no.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: slew ()
Date: February 14, 2013 04:38

I don't miss flipping the record over but I do miss the art work. Album jackets used to be almost as important as the music. There are some really great album covers that is art in their own right.

Sgt Pepper is an awesome cover as is TSMR. Many more I've always like the Are You Experienced cover. I miss band photos too. The Stones first cover in UK is great no writing at all just five guys who seem to be looking through us.

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: February 14, 2013 05:28

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GravityBoy
Quote
tomcasagranda
I loved it, and watched it last night, as it was repeated on BBC4.

Me too.

I liked Noel Gallagher talking about Never Mind the Bollocks.

It was a great program, like having half your life flash before your eyes.

It nearly made me want to buy a Yes album.

Nearly,

I'm definitely going to buy LA Woman (another BBC4 program on the same night).

Why not check out the 40th anniversary remastered 2011 deluxe edition:

CD 1
1. The Changeling [4:24]
2. Love Her Madly [3:39]
3. Been Down So Long* [4:44]
4. Cars Hiss By My Window* [4:58]
5. L.A. Woman* [7:59]
6. L’America [4:34]
7. Hyacinth House [3:13]
8. Crawling King Snake* [5:01]
9. The WASP (Texas Radio and The Big Beat) [4:16]
10. Riders On The Storm [7:08]

CD 2
1. The Changeling (Alternate Version) [4:45]
2. Love Her Madly (Alternate Version) [3:59]
3. Cars Hiss By My Window (Alternate Version) [4:42]
4. L.A. Woman (Alternate Version) [8:50]
5. TheWASP (Texas Radio and The Big Beat) (Alternate Version) [5:37]
6. Been Down So Long (Alternate Version) [4:53]
7. Riders On The Storm (Alternate Version) [9:11]
8. She Smells So Nice / Rock Me [4:41/4:30] [9:11]

There is also a DVD "story of" that's quite fun to view:


Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 15, 2013 23:44





ROCKMAN

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: strettonbull ()
Date: February 16, 2013 00:16

Does this link work for people outside the UK?




Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 16, 2013 04:52

FANKS STRETTON ...........



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: February 16, 2013 04:57

Yes, thank you so much strettonbull, that's very nice of you!smiling smiley

Re: OT: BBC 4 Doc, 'When Albums Ruled The World'
Posted by: downagain ()
Date: February 16, 2013 07:39

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Silver Dagger
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His Majesty
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uhbuhgullayew


Is a CD considered to be an album?

Yes.

Ya can't roll a spliff on a bleedin' CD fer gawd's sake, so how can it be?

A while back I wrote a song which deals with this very issue...almost.

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