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Lots of bands are secretive like that. There are bands that are worse. It's a good promotional tactic. Secrecy leads to speculation, which leads to anticipation, until the fan base is up to a nice boil.

Just name me one that rivals the Rolling Stones in secrecy! So they like to boil their fans?

Pearl Jam

I don't know if THEY are the ones who are so secretive, or the people who run their website, but they act like they're protecting state secrets over there. About 10 years ago news about a couple of unreleased outtakes came out, outtakes that would end up on the B-Sides/Rarities collection "Lost Dogs" less than a year later. The thread in which the people were discussing it disappeared after about 5 minutes and a handful of replies, and the people who were discussing it (my brother being one of them) were all banned from posting. They didn't share the files, nobody even had copies, they were just discussing it, and in order to keep the secrecy (I think it was announced a month or two later) they banned them. I've never heard of The Rolling Stones banning fans from their message boards for having inside information.

That's just one example, I could go on longer. I don't really have a problem with it (except for that one particular incident, but I think that's more the moderators than band policy) as it's just a marketing technique. It does build anticipation, etc. Without waiting, build-up, anticipation it wouldn't be nearly as fun.

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Damn it can be frustrating following these guys! We wait five years to get five shows and now they go silent once again! Why can't they just inform their fans what their plans are? Are you telling me they have no plan? I can't buy that. Why does everything have to be shrouded in mystery? Why all the secrecy? Why all the drama? Why can't they just come out and say they are planning a tour next year? Planning a new album? Or, if they are going to quit, then just say so! Do you think they honestly don't have a clue? And what's with all the teasing? The Coachella thing from the other day is the latest example. The last five years nearly drove me insane! Not sure I can take much more of this!

A few weeks ago you were elated that they were doing something. Months ago you were elated that something was going to happen. Prior to that you were drooling that something might happen. And now you're frustrated? After all that activity?

What more do you want? They DID something.

They don't need to inform anyone about anything - they already did. There is no mystery when there is nothing mysterious - there is nothing now. They recorded two songs, released a hits album and did 5 shows. It's done. The hits album was all about the 5 shows. There was nothing more than that. That's it. The hits album will be dropped from promotion and the new songs will fade away, just as fast as everything else they've released since Start Me Up.

This isn't an issue of what they did or didn't do relating to band activity. They did plenty with the five shows. They could retire tomorrow and I could die a happy man. The issue rather is about them not being as forthright with their fan base as they could be. How difficult would it be for them to say that they are planning a tour next year with details to come later? If they are planing an album why not just say they are planning an album? Instead they like to drop hints - tease us. Like a cat owner dangling a toy mouse on a string in front of the family cat then withdrawing it. The fan base has been more than patient over the last five years while they supposedly worked out their so called differences on the the way to their 50th anniversary. All I am asking for is a little less secrecy and a little more forthrightness from them in regards to their future plans.

Go listen to Tattoo You, an album with zero details, and come to grips with the fact that you ask way too much of something that can't hear you and doesn't read it either and, really, realistically, doesn't care.

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I could not care less about the secrecy.. I trust them to know best what/when to reveal info publically..... and facts be known, I really dont care about thsesthings until they do tell.

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Damn it can be frustrating following these guys! We wait five years to get five shows and now they go silent once again! Why can't they just inform their fans what their plans are? Are you telling me they have no plan? I can't buy that. Why does everything have to be shrouded in mystery? Why all the secrecy? Why all the drama? Why can't they just come out and say they are planning a tour next year? Planning a new album? Or, if they are going to quit, then just say so! Do you think they honestly don't have a clue? And what's with all the teasing? The Coachella thing from the other day is the latest example. The last five years nearly drove me insane! Not sure I can take much more of this!

A few weeks ago you were elated that they were doing something. Months ago you were elated that something was going to happen. Prior to that you were drooling that something might happen. And now you're frustrated? After all that activity?

What more do you want? They DID something.

They don't need to inform anyone about anything - they already did. There is no mystery when there is nothing mysterious - there is nothing now. They recorded two songs, released a hits album and did 5 shows. It's done. The hits album was all about the 5 shows. There was nothing more than that. That's it. The hits album will be dropped from promotion and the new songs will fade away, just as fast as everything else they've released since Start Me Up.

This isn't an issue of what they did or didn't do relating to band activity. They did plenty with the five shows. They could retire tomorrow and I could die a happy man. The issue rather is about them not being as forthright with their fan base as they could be. How difficult would it be for them to say that they are planning a tour next year with details to come later? If they are planing an album why not just say they are planning an album? Instead they like to drop hints - tease us. Like a cat owner dangling a toy mouse on a string in front of the family cat then withdrawing it. The fan base has been more than patient over the last five years while they supposedly worked out their so called differences on the the way to their 50th anniversary. All I am asking for is a little less secrecy and a little more forthrightness from them in regards to their future plans.

Go listen to Tattoo You, an album with zero details, and come to grips with the fact that you ask way too much of something that can't hear you and doesn't read it either and, really, realistically, doesn't care.

It's not that they are not listening - they are. And it's not that they don't care - they do. Maybe this thread will open their eyes a bit and they become a little less secretive with their fans in the future? Let's hope so.

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Damn it can be frustrating following these guys! We wait five years to get five shows and now they go silent once again! Why can't they just inform their fans what their plans are? Are you telling me they have no plan? I can't buy that. Why does everything have to be shrouded in mystery? Why all the secrecy? Why all the drama? Why can't they just come out and say they are planning a tour next year? Planning a new album? Or, if they are going to quit, then just say so! Do you think they honestly don't have a clue? And what's with all the teasing? The Coachella thing from the other day is the latest example. The last five years nearly drove me insane! Not sure I can take much more of this!

A few weeks ago you were elated that they were doing something. Months ago you were elated that something was going to happen. Prior to that you were drooling that something might happen. And now you're frustrated? After all that activity?

What more do you want? They DID something.

They don't need to inform anyone about anything - they already did. There is no mystery when there is nothing mysterious - there is nothing now. They recorded two songs, released a hits album and did 5 shows. It's done. The hits album was all about the 5 shows. There was nothing more than that. That's it. The hits album will be dropped from promotion and the new songs will fade away, just as fast as everything else they've released since Start Me Up.

This isn't an issue of what they did or didn't do relating to band activity. They did plenty with the five shows. They could retire tomorrow and I could die a happy man. The issue rather is about them not being as forthright with their fan base as they could be. How difficult would it be for them to say that they are planning a tour next year with details to come later? If they are planing an album why not just say they are planning an album? Instead they like to drop hints - tease us. Like a cat owner dangling a toy mouse on a string in front of the family cat then withdrawing it. The fan base has been more than patient over the last five years while they supposedly worked out their so called differences on the the way to their 50th anniversary. All I am asking for is a little less secrecy and a little more forthrightness from them in regards to their future plans.

Go listen to Tattoo You, an album with zero details, and come to grips with the fact that you ask way too much of something that can't hear you and doesn't read it either and, really, realistically, doesn't care.

It's not that they are not listening - they are. And it's not that they don't care - they do. Maybe this thread will open their eyes a bit and they become a little less secretive with their fans in the future? Let's hope so.