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Unfortunately I think Gazza's made an excellent point with the lack of a new album requirement in their current deal with UMG and the "carrot" for the next deal...unless it's UMG again and they could somehow resign early.
If they do, it would be a first. To the best of my knowledge, the Stones have never renewed an existing record contract. Certainly not since they left Decca anyway.
Theyve always chased the money and signed lucrative deals for a new label.
However, theyre at an unusual phase in their career where their last deal didnt require newly recorded product. As a result of this (and also because of the perilous state of the music industry) their advance was significantly less than it was for previous deals.
The bargaining tool theyve had in the last three decades when signing with Virgin, UMG and (to a degree) Columbia was their back catalogue. Even that has been milked to death by now, however so its less of an attraction for a prospective new label than it has ever been. And signing the Stones to a long term deal for new material makes no sense whatsoever considering their lack of output in the last couple of decades and the fact that their new albums, whilst good sellers, underperform in comparison to the advances that record labels have thrown at them.
The future for Rolling Stones product is in archive releases in various formats - both audio and visual - although thats more of a niche market, sales wise. One would imagine that any future deal would encompass all forms of media in order to make it practical.
Interesting, I didnt know any of that...
I always much appreciate it when you explain stuff liek this to us, Thank you Gazza
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From a marketing perspective, albums are helpful in promoting tours. Of course, it used to be the other way around.
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its true there's no money in the record, but with lotza guests and mick taylor on
the album, and timed right in this very poor market for albums, it will get
into the top 5, which is all they want, to promote their next mini/PPV tour.
no. they don't need a new album to promote anymore shows. they proved that with these five shows. there won't be a new album. we're sorry.
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From a marketing perspective, albums are helpful in promoting tours. Of course, it used to be the other way around.
yeah, remember that time all those people went out to see the stones cos of their killer a bigger bang record?
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From a marketing perspective, albums are helpful in promoting tours. Of course, it used to be the other way around.
yeah, remember that time all those people went out to see the stones cos of their killer a bigger bang record?
Its more that they maintain the image of a current working band that isn't just a greatest hits/oldies act, even though that's essentially what they are. People didn't go to hear Bigger Bang songs, but the fact that they were putting out new music made the Rolling Stones brand better.
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if you want to know what the stones are planning - listen to what ronnie says...and then expect the opposite. there won't be a new record - as gazza and others have indicated, there's not enough of a money draw there. and for the stones it's about the almighty dollar.
dammit - i was SOOOOOO looking forward to another exile....
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if you want to know what the stones are planning - listen to what ronnie says...and then expect the opposite. there won't be a new record - as gazza and others have indicated, there's not enough of a money draw there. and for the stones it's about the almighty dollar.
dammit - i was SOOOOOO looking forward to another exile....
Texas, never will happen. They are past their creative process and only after the money and you know it!
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Unfortunately I think Gazza's made an excellent point with the lack of a new album requirement in their current deal with UMG and the "carrot" for the next deal...unless it's UMG again and they could somehow resign early.
If they do, it would be a first. To the best of my knowledge, the Stones have never renewed an existing record contract. Certainly not since they left Decca anyway.
Theyve always chased the money and signed lucrative deals for a new label.
However, theyre at an unusual phase in their career where their last deal didnt require newly recorded product. As a result of this (and also because of the perilous state of the music industry) their advance was significantly less than it was for previous deals.
The bargaining tool theyve had in the last three decades when signing with Virgin, UMG and (to a degree) Columbia was their back catalogue. Even that has been milked to death by now, however so its less of an attraction for a prospective new label than it has ever been. And signing the Stones to a long term deal for new material makes no sense whatsoever considering their lack of output in the last couple of decades and the fact that their new albums, whilst good sellers, underperform in comparison to the advances that record labels have thrown at them.
The future for Rolling Stones product is in archive releases in various formats - both audio and visual - although thats more of a niche market, sales wise. One would imagine that any future deal would encompass all forms of media in order to make it practical.
Interesting, I didnt know any of that...
I always much appreciate it when you explain stuff liek this to us, Thank you Gazza
he's sorta our bill clinton - the secretary of explaining stuff...or something.
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Unfortunately I think Gazza's made an excellent point with the lack of a new album requirement in their current deal with UMG and the "carrot" for the next deal...unless it's UMG again and they could somehow resign early.
If they do, it would be a first. To the best of my knowledge, the Stones have never renewed an existing record contract. Certainly not since they left Decca anyway.
Theyve always chased the money and signed lucrative deals for a new label.
However, theyre at an unusual phase in their career where their last deal didnt require newly recorded product. As a result of this (and also because of the perilous state of the music industry) their advance was significantly less than it was for previous deals.
The bargaining tool theyve had in the last three decades when signing with Virgin, UMG and (to a degree) Columbia was their back catalogue. Even that has been milked to death by now, however so its less of an attraction for a prospective new label than it has ever been. And signing the Stones to a long term deal for new material makes no sense whatsoever considering their lack of output in the last couple of decades and the fact that their new albums, whilst good sellers, underperform in comparison to the advances that record labels have thrown at them.
The future for Rolling Stones product is in archive releases in various formats - both audio and visual - although thats more of a niche market, sales wise. One would imagine that any future deal would encompass all forms of media in order to make it practical.
Interesting, I didnt know any of that...
I always much appreciate it when you explain stuff liek this to us, Thank you Gazza
he's sorta our bill clinton - the secretary of explaining stuff...or something.
only thing is, they only reply to you if they think you yelled at them.
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Unfortunately I think Gazza's made an excellent point with the lack of a new album requirement in their current deal with UMG and the "carrot" for the next deal...unless it's UMG again and they could somehow resign early.
If they do, it would be a first. To the best of my knowledge, the Stones have never renewed an existing record contract. Certainly not since they left Decca anyway.
Theyve always chased the money and signed lucrative deals for a new label.
However, theyre at an unusual phase in their career where their last deal didnt require newly recorded product. As a result of this (and also because of the perilous state of the music industry) their advance was significantly less than it was for previous deals.
The bargaining tool theyve had in the last three decades when signing with Virgin, UMG and (to a degree) Columbia was their back catalogue. Even that has been milked to death by now, however so its less of an attraction for a prospective new label than it has ever been. And signing the Stones to a long term deal for new material makes no sense whatsoever considering their lack of output in the last couple of decades and the fact that their new albums, whilst good sellers, underperform in comparison to the advances that record labels have thrown at them.
The future for Rolling Stones product is in archive releases in various formats - both audio and visual - although thats more of a niche market, sales wise. One would imagine that any future deal would encompass all forms of media in order to make it practical.
Interesting, I didnt know any of that...
I always much appreciate it when you explain stuff liek this to us, Thank you Gazza
he's sorta our bill clinton - the secretary of explaining stuff...or something.
only thing is, they only reply to you if they think you yelled at them.
it's a big responsibility being the voice of reason. especially when everything and everyone is so unreasonable. these men are stretched thinly...or something.
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Unfortunately I think Gazza's made an excellent point with the lack of a new album requirement in their current deal with UMG and the "carrot" for the next deal...unless it's UMG again and they could somehow resign early.
If they do, it would be a first. To the best of my knowledge, the Stones have never renewed an existing record contract. Certainly not since they left Decca anyway.
Theyve always chased the money and signed lucrative deals for a new label.
However, theyre at an unusual phase in their career where their last deal didnt require newly recorded product. As a result of this (and also because of the perilous state of the music industry) their advance was significantly less than it was for previous deals.
The bargaining tool theyve had in the last three decades when signing with Virgin, UMG and (to a degree) Columbia was their back catalogue. Even that has been milked to death by now, however so its less of an attraction for a prospective new label than it has ever been. And signing the Stones to a long term deal for new material makes no sense whatsoever considering their lack of output in the last couple of decades and the fact that their new albums, whilst good sellers, underperform in comparison to the advances that record labels have thrown at them.
The future for Rolling Stones product is in archive releases in various formats - both audio and visual - although thats more of a niche market, sales wise. One would imagine that any future deal would encompass all forms of media in order to make it practical.
Interesting, I didnt know any of that...
I always much appreciate it when you explain stuff liek this to us, Thank you Gazza
he's sorta our bill clinton - the secretary of explaining stuff...or something.
only thing is, they only reply to you if they think you yelled at them.
it's a big responsibility being the voice of reason. especially when everything and everyone is so unreasonable. these men are stretched thinly...or something.
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Unfortunately I think Gazza's made an excellent point with the lack of a new album requirement in their current deal with UMG and the "carrot" for the next deal...unless it's UMG again and they could somehow resign early.
If they do, it would be a first. To the best of my knowledge, the Stones have never renewed an existing record contract. Certainly not since they left Decca anyway.
Theyve always chased the money and signed lucrative deals for a new label.
However, theyre at an unusual phase in their career where their last deal didnt require newly recorded product. As a result of this (and also because of the perilous state of the music industry) their advance was significantly less than it was for previous deals.
The bargaining tool theyve had in the last three decades when signing with Virgin, UMG and (to a degree) Columbia was their back catalogue. Even that has been milked to death by now, however so its less of an attraction for a prospective new label than it has ever been. And signing the Stones to a long term deal for new material makes no sense whatsoever considering their lack of output in the last couple of decades and the fact that their new albums, whilst good sellers, underperform in comparison to the advances that record labels have thrown at them.
The future for Rolling Stones product is in archive releases in various formats - both audio and visual - although thats more of a niche market, sales wise. One would imagine that any future deal would encompass all forms of media in order to make it practical.
Interesting, I didnt know any of that...
I always much appreciate it when you explain stuff liek this to us, Thank you Gazza
he's sorta our bill clinton - the secretary of explaining stuff...or something.
only thing is, they only reply to you if they think you yelled at them.
it's a big responsibility being the voice of reason. especially when everything and everyone is so unreasonable. these men are stretched thinly...or something.
how could i forget? here in texas we do it right - been playing ernest tubb's christmas record non-stop since the month began. Merry Texas Christmas You All, indeed.
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Unfortunately I think Gazza's made an excellent point with the lack of a new album requirement in their current deal with UMG and the "carrot" for the next deal...unless it's UMG again and they could somehow resign early.
If they do, it would be a first. To the best of my knowledge, the Stones have never renewed an existing record contract. Certainly not since they left Decca anyway.
Theyve always chased the money and signed lucrative deals for a new label.
However, theyre at an unusual phase in their career where their last deal didnt require newly recorded product. As a result of this (and also because of the perilous state of the music industry) their advance was significantly less than it was for previous deals.
The bargaining tool theyve had in the last three decades when signing with Virgin, UMG and (to a degree) Columbia was their back catalogue. Even that has been milked to death by now, however so its less of an attraction for a prospective new label than it has ever been. And signing the Stones to a long term deal for new material makes no sense whatsoever considering their lack of output in the last couple of decades and the fact that their new albums, whilst good sellers, underperform in comparison to the advances that record labels have thrown at them.
The future for Rolling Stones product is in archive releases in various formats - both audio and visual - although thats more of a niche market, sales wise. One would imagine that any future deal would encompass all forms of media in order to make it practical.
Interesting, I didnt know any of that...
I always much appreciate it when you explain stuff liek this to us, Thank you Gazza
he's sorta our bill clinton - the secretary of explaining stuff...or something.
only thing is, they only reply to you if they think you yelled at them.
it's a big responsibility being the voice of reason. especially when everything and everyone is so unreasonable. these men are stretched thinly...or something.
how could i forget? here in texas we do it right - been playing ernest tubb's christmas record non-stop since the month began. Merry Texas Christmas You All, indeed.
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Ernest Tubbs is a hoax.
No real person could have that name.
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Ernest Tubbs is a hoax.
No real person could have that name.
have you ever visited our fair state? most of us have names far worse and very very few of us are hoaxes.....
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Ernest Tubbs is a hoax.
No real person could have that name.
have you ever visited our fair state? most of us have names far worse and very very few of us are hoaxes.....
I went to Rochdale once.
Is it like that?
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