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In my humble opinion, the Chuck situation is a deal (spoken or unspoken) between Mick and Keith. Mick gets to have Chuck in the 'band' while Keith gets to have Bobby Keys in the 'band'.

Mick gets a clean, sober, never-busted Chuck Leavell while Keith gets his old, one-time drug-buddy. Now, praise God, Bobby Keys is also clean and sober which (possibly) is good for Keith.

So, the Bobby & Chuck thing is perfect for both Mick & Keith.It's a win-win for all concerned.

Yes they have lots of those spoken and unspoken deals. Like Keith was vetoing Mick who wanted JC out for years but had to wait until JC went too far with his business and his habit. But since Keith likes Chuck as well I'm not sure if this is a tango with Bobby. I think it's more like ok you fire JC but Bobby and Blondie stay.

What are these J&R camps about? Do they really exist? I mean I see that there is obvious Keith camp and his people are very devoted to him and have low/skeptical opinion about Jagger - just read Bobby Keys interviews. On the other hand I do not see any evidence that anyone is talking negatively about Richards. As I understand Mick people just work for the whole band, like Chuck Leavell or Don Was

Sorry proudmary. I was just reading a couple of days
Camps are still there. A lot of people can deal with it and just do their job. In Keith's camp guys like Roy and Pierre are ok but I always disliked guys like Tony and Freddy, boy how he at 75+ still liked to build his image because he was 'touring with Keith' and 'hired by Keith to arrange things' for Eastern Europe parts of the tour...how he liked other people to know that...and how he liked all of us to see that he was invited by Keith to a wedding or birthday party or whatever.
And guys like that are his friends or hired by him to 'help' him... In a way that's so cliche that it's pathetic Keith still behaves like that. He parodies himself without knowing. That he needs to surround himself with people like that and talks about really silly things about his relation with Jagger. No wonder more and more people see that MJ and 'his' people indeed just work for the band... And so are lots of others.
I really like Keith. More then 50% of him is a very nice guy. But how he is behaving and the things he continues to say about MJ for the last 15 years or so is ridiculous and not at all constructive. Not that MJ is my all time hero but thanks to his teflon the RS are still here; imho we really owe him a lot more credit than he's getting here on iorr. A hell of a lot more.
I hope they are still alive as a band...but I'm just afraid that what will come will be a disappointment for all of us. In quality and quantity.
I think the last very good tour was Steel Wheels / Urban Jungle. After that in '95 the club gigs where sensational but the tour wasn't as good as SW/UJ. After that, well...nothing much to say about it. More of the same.
Thank God there is so much to listen to that we like...they really gave us so much fun that I don't really mind if Keith can't play anymore. When it's over it's over. That will happen someday soon. Something we all can see today.