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TeaAtThree
I agree. All those who say "Tattoo You" was their last listenable album just have closed minds. I was suspicious after hearing "ASMB" as the single -- another mind-boggling choice -- but found the record to be enjoyable and fresh. While Voodoo Lounge was nostalgic, BtoB was somewhat more daring. One or two songs too long (choose your own -- mine are Always Suffering, and Too Tight) but that is the curse of the CD era.
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24FPS
A couple good songs, but pretty disposable. I no longer own this one, or Voodoo Lounge. I liked Gun Face and Might As Well Get Juiced when it came out, but they sounded dated pretty fast. I remember liking OUt of Control when the performed it on No Security with the nice horns. I was also at Dodger Stadium. The whole thing came to a crashing halt when Daryll shit the stage when he screwed up the bass part to Anybody Seen My Baby. I remember thinking, "I thought you were the hot shot jazz player who wowed Miles Davis."
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whitem8
A great album! One of my favorite later day releases. I agree that many people close their ears after '81. BTB is a daring album in many ways, yet also finds that familiar groove of classic stones. Some great writing and melodies on the disc. Full of sleazy rock, some great ballads, and some good gospel rock as well. Everything about the album I like, and the tour was fantastic. They seemed very energized by the release and the numbers got a good response from the audience. And it has three, THREE, great Keith songs on it. One if his best reggae numbers, and two hauting torch songs. I think when Mick and Keith are at each other's throats it makes for more compelling songs. Seems to fit, by all accounts they were arguing quite a bit over BTB, and then ABB was a love fest and it seemed languid and heartless in many ways...
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Max'sKansasCity
First of all... get fkn DM off stage yechhhh... then.. Saint of Me... Oh yeah..
Love that song... love that version... Jagger is great... Ronnie is great.
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Max'sKansasCity
"Out of Control" is a great song.
I loved this concert in St Louie....
We had 7th row aisle seats and we rocked it... it was AWESOME!!!
That was when $350.00 paid to the scalpers bought you a damned decent ticket on the 7th row. Where today $350 is face value for seats in the balcnoey in back of the stadium and 7th row costs $1000-2000... I KNEW then that $350 was a fair price... especially for the PPV show, which would be recorded for posterity... HELL YEAH!!! I need a time machine.. I wanna go again!
I saw that tour a bunch... opening night in Chicago.. In Columbus the next weekend... in Nashville... in Oklahoma.... in LA at Dodger... in St Louie for the PPV.... What a gas gas gas......and back when life was still worth living.
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deadegad
Two Thumbs up for BTB!!
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slew
ab - I agree on the single what were they thinking? But what is wrong with Angie? I love that track.
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MidnightRambler1990
I like the album too. It's almost the most "mature" album the Stones ever did. And that's not a totally bad thing. I'd like another album like it.
Comparing it to the Big Four is pushing it, though.
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Max'sKansasCity
I liked it.... But (based on a lot of posts I read here) mnay of these people stopped listening, and/or turned off their minds, to new music in 1973-74... so expect another incoming barrage from the grumpys.... Me, on the other hand, I thought this was a fine album and fun tour... but I am pretty easy to please...
I bought every single Stones album the day it came out (up to and including AB, each time hoping against hope that it would be a great one (or even a good one). The Stones kept up a very high level of quality for a very long time (way past 1974, by the way, though I know you always accuse me of not liking anything after that for some reason, even though I certainly never said so). After Tattoo You, the writing was simply not of the same caliber. If people enjoy these records, great, I respect that. But you should stop accusing people who fail to see the brilliance in these later records as being "grumpy", having "stopped listening" and having "closed minds". It really is childish. The wide consensus (including by the Stones themselves, given their reluctance to play many post Tattoo You songs in their shows) is that the mid-80s and beyond were not on par with what went before. It's a natural thing to have happen in the pop music world. Dylan and McCartney's quality isn't the same either, though both have come up with some excellent work. You can say the same about The Who or countless other artists whose peak was a long time ago. Is "Time Out Of Mind" as good as "Blonde On Blonde"? Is "It's Hard" as good as "Who's Next"? Is "Flowers In The Dirt" as good as "Abbey Road". Is "Bridges To Babylon" as good as "Sticky Fingers". A lot of time has gone by, and the consensus is no, but that doesn't mean one can't enjoy these records.
The problem some people on this site have with you Max, is that you choose to hurl labels like "grumpy" and "close-minded" at people who say things you disagree with rather than simply engaging them on the merits of your view. And you also do it in a kind of passive-agressive manner, as in the post quoted above. It's insulting as well as tiresome, and it makes it more difficult to have meaningful debates. Give it some thought.
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Max'sKansasCity
I liked it.... But (based on a lot of posts I read here) mnay of these people stopped listening, and/or turned off their minds, to new music in 1973-74... so expect another incoming barrage from the grumpys.... Me, on the other hand, I thought this was a fine album and fun tour... but I am pretty easy to please...
I bought every single Stones album the day it came out (up to and including AB, each time hoping against hope that it would be a great one (or even a good one). The Stones kept up a very high level of quality for a very long time (way past 1974, by the way, though I know you always accuse me of not liking anything after that for some reason, even though I certainly never said so). After Tattoo You, the writing was simply not of the same caliber. If people enjoy these records, great, I respect that. But you should stop accusing people who fail to see the brilliance in these later records as being "grumpy", having "stopped listening" and having "closed minds". It really is childish. The wide consensus (including by the Stones themselves, given their reluctance to play many post Tattoo You songs in their shows) is that the mid-80s and beyond were not on par with what went before. It's a natural thing to have happen in the pop music world. Dylan and McCartney's quality isn't the same either, though both have come up with some excellent work. You can say the same about The Who or countless other artists whose peak was a long time ago. Is "Time Out Of Mind" as good as "Blonde On Blonde"? Is "It's Hard" as good as "Who's Next"? Is "Flowers In The Dirt" as good as "Abbey Road". Is "Bridges To Babylon" as good as "Sticky Fingers". A lot of time has gone by, and the consensus is no, but that doesn't mean one can't enjoy these records.
The problem some people on this site have with you Max, is that you choose to hurl labels like "grumpy" and "close-minded" at people who say things you disagree with rather than simply engaging them on the merits of your view. And you also do it in a kind of passive-agressive manner, as in the post quoted above. It's insulting as well as tiresome, and it makes it more difficult to have meaningful debates. Give it some thought.
Tele, I respect your opinions. Hell, I respect all opinions. But tell me, are you just a little bit excited about tomorrow's big announcement and what lies ahead? Just a little?