When does something become a sell-out? Are setlist painted with felt pens in bright
colors for steep money a sell-out? Or giving your name to a shoe, like this one?
Any opinions?

Do a Rice Krispies commercial and you lose all credibility.

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Do a Rice Krispies commercial and you lose all credibility.

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Do a Rice Krispies commercial and you lose all credibility.

Ouch! Stones have been selling out for 56 years then! Actually, they were the first band to have a tour sponsor when Jovan sponsored the 81 tour.

When I saw the subject line, I thought it was about selling out a venue.

prefer ta see Mick & Keith doin' burn-outs ….



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How about this one?

Or this one?



(De Niro versus Kia Niro...)

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When does something become a sell-out? Are setlist painted with felt pens in bright
colors for steep money a sell-out? Or giving your name to a shoe, like this one?
Any opinions?

What are the various categories of sell-out, I wonder?

-Product endorsements
-Tour sponsorships
-Music licensing
-Artistic abdication (i.e., creating music you don't believe in for commercial gain)

The Dylan example below is an interesting one -- what category does that fall into? He's using his brand to create a new product line (which carries with it a certain business risk) ... he's not just cashing a check from Maker's Mark. (Although if memory serves he did cash a pretty famous one from Victoria's Secret, no?) Does that make his whiskey endeavor less of a sell-out or is it still a sell-out?

Are the Stones more of a sell-out because they associated themselves with Windows rather than with the MacOS? Or because they allowed a shitty cologne onto tix from their '81 tour?

And when does a band licensing its music for use in a film become a sell-out? Does it depend on the quality of the film?

In many cases, a product tie-in probably seems more like a sell-out when the core quality of the product being hawked is diametrically opposed to the public image of the hawkee ...

Okay, L Smith. My view of a sell-out is when an established artist/celebrity puts their name on or does commercials for products with little or none connotation to their work.
That is for money gain only. Like Bob De Niro for Kia cars (he probably doesn't even drive one) or Bob Dylan for a whiskey brand. The worst cases are those celebs making adverts for gambling sites.
We see a lot of those over here. Personally, I don't mind actors down on their luck doing adverts though. They need food on their tables like everyone else. Just a small digression there...



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Keith gets a pass though, Bleedingman.It was for charity solely. Not a cash-in.

What about private shows...Deutsche Bank or similar...

What about waiting for Hillarys mother