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Yeah, that's what I meant, the two kick beat. I love it, and it gives such a groove to his playing.
I listened to live versions of Jumping Jack Flash from 1969 and 1972 and I think that Charlie in 1969 played the kick a lot more on the 4,5 (= 8th note before the one) and the 1, and on the 1972 version he played it on the 1 and the 1,5. Maybe because of the speed of the song it changed, but the 1969 kick gives it more groove.
That's the word I was looking for, of course.
Anyway timing, groove, swing... It's all tightly knit together I suppose.
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Re: Charlie's drumming
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Date: November 9, 2011 18:25
Matthijs and Amsterdamned...Relax! Stelletje belhamels! Halve aardappel?...hahahaaha!!
Re: Charlie's drumming
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Koen
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Date: November 9, 2011 18:34
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Love Charlie's two kick beat, Beggars' Jigsaw Puzzle, Let It Bleed's title track drumming is outstanding, Ya-Ya's (the loping beat on Satisfaction, the pounding JJF, Carol and Street Fighting Man), Sticky Fingers (Bitch is another one where he moves the beat around but it's got that double thump throughout it) and on Exile (Rocks Off, Sweet Virginia, Loving Cup, All Down The Line, Stop Breaking Down).
Yeah, that's what I meant, the two kick beat. I love it, and it gives such a groove to his playing.
Re: Charlie's drumming
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: November 9, 2011 19:11
It was much more tight back then. Now he plays it different - and no where near how he did on those recordings. If anything it's lost the groove and swing it had!
Re: Charlie's drumming
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Sacke
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Date: November 9, 2011 21:05
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Love Charlie's two kick beat, Beggars' Jigsaw Puzzle, Let It Bleed's title track drumming is outstanding, Ya-Ya's (the loping beat on Satisfaction, the pounding JJF, Carol and Street Fighting Man), Sticky Fingers (Bitch is another one where he moves the beat around but it's got that double thump throughout it) and on Exile (Rocks Off, Sweet Virginia, Loving Cup, All Down The Line, Stop Breaking Down).
Yeah, that's what I meant, the two kick beat. I love it, and it gives such a groove to his playing.
I listened to live versions of Jumping Jack Flash from 1969 and 1972 and I think that Charlie in 1969 played the kick a lot more on the 4,5 (= 8th note before the one) and the 1, and on the 1972 version he played it on the 1 and the 1,5. Maybe because of the speed of the song it changed, but the 1969 kick gives it more groove.
Re: Charlie's drumming
Posted by:
GumbootCloggeroo
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Date: November 9, 2011 21:19
Charlie has also changed the angle of his snare over the years.
Re: Charlie's drumming
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audun-eg
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Date: November 10, 2011 00:39
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Don't know about what the definitions on "swing" is around here, but Darryl states in an interview from '94 or '95 that Charlies snare-beat is one of the things that makes his groove very special. He hits it a millisecond or so behind the beat, creating a backbeat.
That's actually Charlie's timing then.
That's the word I was looking for, of course.
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