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Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: Title5Take1 ()
Date: December 2, 2015 19:13

From: [mrlucasbrice.com]

The following is an excerpt of an interview with Mick Jagger of The Rolling Stones from “Musique” magazine, January 1975. The interviewer is Rom Landau. All rights reserved.

Landau: And what do you think of the poetry of Mr. Lucas Brice?

Jagger: Brice? Well, he is a fcking genius, isn’t he? He could use some new clothes, though.

Landau: Have you read many of Brice’s poems?

Jagger: Of course. We all did back then. Brice’s poetry was a big inspiration to me when I was writing lyrics. I’ll even admit that I knicked a few lines off him. Like “Under My Thumb.” That was part of a poem by Brice, called, I think, “Meditation 9.” The original line went something like:

Under my thumb,
There’s a stamp that
just won’t stay down,
Under my bum,
is my favourite chair
that’s a perfect shade of brown…


I can’t remember the rest of it, but it had something to do with cooked vegetables, or eels, or something. We changed it quite a bit, but the original inspiration was from Brice.

Landau: What about the rumour that you turned Brice on to LSD in the 1960’s?

Jagger: (laughs) Actually, it was the other way ’round. He gave me and Keith our first taste of acid, right before we did Majesties Request. If you look closely at the cover of the album…

Landau: The 3D cover?

Jagger: Yeah, that’s the one. If you look closely at the cover, you can see Brice’s head hidden in there with The Beatles.

Landau: Were the Beatles familiar with Brice?

Jagger: I don’t know about all of them, but I heard Brice had some kind of problem with Paul.

Landau: What happened?

Jagger: Well, the word is that Paul lent Brice some money once and they had a row. Words were exchanged. I don’t think Brice ever really got over it.

Landau: What did he do?

Jagger: He got drunk and wrote some poetry. That was his way, wasn’t it?

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: December 2, 2015 20:11

I'd always thought that Keith had tried acid well before then, via Brian.
Also, that Mick's first trip was the day of the Redlands bust.

Can't imagine Mick in 2015 being so loose in interview somehow.

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: GetYerAngie ()
Date: December 2, 2015 21:17

Funny! Thanx for posting!

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: December 2, 2015 22:00

Quote
jlowe
I'd always thought that Keith had tried acid well before then, via Brian.
Also, that Mick's first trip was the day of the Redlands bust.

Can't imagine Mick in 2015 being so loose in interview somehow.

It's from january '75.........smiling smiley

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: December 2, 2015 22:26

Quote
jlowe
I'd always thought that Keith had tried acid well before then, via Brian.
Also, that Mick's first trip was the day of the Redlands bust.

Can't imagine Mick in 2015 being so loose in interview somehow.

Sounds unreal to me that he's so open and detailed...............

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Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: December 2, 2015 22:37

Quote
jlowe
I'd always thought that Keith had tried acid well before then, via Brian.
Also, that Mick's first trip was the day of the Redlands bust.

Can't imagine Mick in 2015 being so loose in interview somehow.

The time period lines up pretty well actually. They started recording Satanic Majesties in Feb 1967, the same month as the Redland bust, if I'm not mistaken.

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: December 2, 2015 22:43

True, I just thought Keith had been on a few trips in 1966, along with Brian.
By his own estimates, John Lennon must have had hundreds before Mick....but then he was always prone to exaggerate!

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: December 2, 2015 22:57

I've heard Keith dropped acid in December 1965, shortly after being electrocuted on stage.

Electric Keith Week

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: December 2, 2015 23:02

Quote
with sssoul
I've heard Keith dropped acid in December 1965, shortly after being electrocuted on stage.

Electric Keith Week

Good memory with sssoul. Here is a quote from timeisonourside:

"December 5, 1965: Following the Los Angeles concert, Keith Richards and Brian Jones attend an Acid Test Party by Ken Kesey and sample LSD."

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: December 2, 2015 23:17

So Mick was at least 14 months behind his mates, then.
If we are to believe the printed word that is!

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: December 2, 2015 23:31

Quote
Naturalust
Quote
with sssoul
I've heard Keith dropped acid in December 1965, shortly after being electrocuted on stage.

Electric Keith Week

Good memory with sssoul. Here is a quote from timeisonourside:

"December 5, 1965: Following the Los Angeles concert, Keith Richards and Brian Jones attend an Acid Test Party by Ken Kesey and sample LSD."

And he was electrocuted on December 3rd, in Sacramento.
The 50th Annual Electric Keith Week celebrations start tomorrow :E



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-12-05 11:56 by with sssoul.

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: dmay ()
Date: December 2, 2015 23:40

Tom Wolfe wrote a book about Kesey and LSD - The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test. Great book. Most of these events were first done in northern California. A timeline for 1965 regarding the acid tests shows that they took place in the San Francisco Bay area and Kesey's home state of Oregon. Does this mean Keith and Brian tripped up to northern Cali to participate or were they turned on elsewhere? Only one of them can now answer this. Interestingly, re LSD, the actor Cary Grant was a user of it, if my memory serves me well.

Re: Inspiration for UNDER MY THUMB
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: December 2, 2015 23:57

The writer Aldous Huxley was also a user and wrote of his experiences. He died in 1963.
Safe to say Acid/LSD was around long before the pop culture took an interest in it.
I believe the US made possession illegal in 1968.



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