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Without studio documentation or access to the original multitrack tapes it's gonna be hard to establish what Brian contributed 1968 to 69 beyond what we already know. Only contemporary reports are likely to be accurate to any degree.
There must have been a long build up to BJ's departure - band members leaving an established band like that is not taken lightly. Bad PR for one thing. I assume that MJ and KR had been considering this for many months and Brian's absences,lack of contribution or the others willingness to wipe/ignore/play down his contribution (not necessarily out of malice but for the song) or think it unsuitable all played a part. Not to mention the personal relationship angle too.
If any of you have been unfortunate enough as i have to hear the entire month of January 1969 beatles rehearsals/recordings it is clear that the band are completely messed up both as a playing unit and as friends and this didn't just suddenly happen. They still made 2 albums before calling it a day.
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stonehearted
Obviously he was hardly present for the album, as his lack of credits on Let It Bleed would suggest, and if he was present, he was hardly "there".
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And as for the Get Back sessions of The Beatles in January 1969 not sounding up to snuff, that was Paul's fault. The decision for scheduling was left to him, and he elected to have the film crew in on a day schedule, 9-to-5, when The Beatles were night owls. Plus they were recording in the chilly barn-like atmosphere of Twickenham film studios, and the band was made self-conscious by the continual presence of a film crew. As Lennon said, "You couldn't make music at ten in the morning, and there was this film crew watching you every second."[/quote
I think the times may have been down more to union rules than Paul (could be wrong though). Interestingly a listen to the whole month (don't do it !) reveals multiple problems mostly (but not entirely) down to John in my opinion.I wont go on coz i don't want to derail the thread too much.
I think His Majesty is close with BJ's contributions being poor, inappropriate or not worth bothering with which is very sad because BJ was clearly a major talent at one time. His personal problems spilled over into the band to such a degree that he had to go.
Entering the realms of speculation, if we had access to session tapes i reckon we'd hear BJ in the background on a number of warm-ups/early takes and find him dropping out or replaced on the master. It's also quite possible that he simply didn't attend many sessions for one reason or another and his credits reflect this. We'd have missed him on any of the previous albums but Let It Bleed is a classic and Brian basically is no part of it.
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At what point was Ry Cooder brought into the sessions? Were he and Brian ever there at the same time?
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stonehearted
By the way, if people haven't read it already, I recommend Sean Egan's book, The Making Of Let It Bleed.
I'm looking to see if it is available in digital format. I also wish The Complete Recording Sessions book was available digitally. Would be a nice resource to refer to quickly via I-Pad etc.
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His Majesty
Ry can be seen playing the same sonic blue Fender Stratocaster he used at Redlands in this video from 1977...
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His Majesty
Ry can be seen playing the same sonic blue Fender Stratocaster he used at Redlands in this video from 1977...
Would that be the same Telecaster that Brian was using in the Jumpin' Jack Flash promo?
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His Majesty
Ry can be seen playing the same sonic blue Fender Stratocaster he used at Redlands in this video from 1977...
Would that be the same Telecaster that Brian was using in the Jumpin' Jack Flash promo?
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jazzbass
Brian is playing a white Tele, R is playing a blue Strat.
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jazzbass
Brian is playing a white Tele, R is playing a blue Strat.
Seems the tele was sonic blue though.
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Big Al
It's also worth noting that the Through The Past Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) photo-shoot took place in the early months of 1969. St. Katherine's Dock, London.
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rootsman
May 21, IIRC...
Last group photo session with Brian.[/quote
And they were some of the most terrific Brian Jones-era photo's, too. I'm guessing the photograph of Brian Jones sat cross-legged blowing a balloon are from the session as well.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-07-15 03:03 by Big Al.
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It's also worth noting that the Through The Past Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) photo-shoot took place in the early months of 1969. St. Katherine's Dock, London.
May 21, IIRC...
Last group photo session with Brian.
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Big Al
It's also worth noting that the Through The Past Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) photo-shoot took place in the early months of 1969. St. Katherine's Dock, London.
May 21, IIRC...
Last group photo session with Brian.
Is this the last shot with Brian?