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DaveG
I was unaware that he was even still alive.
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bassplayer617
He will not be missed. Lennon realized he was a pseudomystical hack 40 years ago.
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HelterSkelterQuote
bassplayer617
He will not be missed. Lennon realized he was a pseudomystical hack 40 years ago.
The Dude's dead man, have some effing respect....
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HelterSkelter
.... as far as Ledger I'm just saying that daily modern medical treatment (at least in the US, Europe is much better)
The dude (Heath) was a victim of modern medical practices IMHO.....
Well, the U.S-Europe comment is debatable. Something tells me you're
just an advocate for socialized medicine and want more nanny-state
welfare state nonsense here in the U.S. I don't see too many pepole lining up
to go to Europe for health care.
Ledger didn't die from modern mediacal practices.
He died from stupidity. Look at what was found in his body.
Percocet, Vicodin, Valium, Temazepam (used for insomnia),
Xanex, and a substance used in NyQuil.
You're an absolute idiot if you're taking all that stuff at once,
and he was certainly old enough to know better.
NOw, if he had only one doctor who perscribed all this,
then he/she should definitely have their license revoked.
And if he was seeing more than one, he should have told them
what he had been perscribed. THose are all downers he was taking.
A shame, yes, but he was asking for it.
As for TM, I wouldn't mind learning it.
But you see, the Maharishi was smart. He was a captialist,
which most of you hate. $2000 to learn it? Why not free if it's supposed
to bring about peace of mind and world peace?
Think about that next time you're at Starbucks.
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HelterSkelter
Sure some Western medicine has worked miracles on many diseases and stuff that used to be a death sentence (antibiotics, polio shots, anti malaria pills, the AIDS drugs they have now, some Cancer Treatments, on and on) but there is a ton of shit mixed into it to. Same with Eastern, there's a ton of shit mixed in with the good stuff... Yeah, the smartest thing one can do is take the good from each country or region or whatever... No one has all the answers.... as far as Ledger I'm just saying that daily modern medical treatment (at least in the US, Europe is much better) these days is almost always a 10 minute quick bullsh*t session with a triple booked over worked Doctor followed by a mountain of pills - AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE, I get better personal care driving thru a McDonalds.... The dude (Heath) was a victim of modern medical practices IMHO.....
Yes there is a direct correlation to Maharishi and THE WHITE ALBUM - no visit to India (for a month I believe) and hanging with the dude no "many songs written in India" so no WHITE ALBUM (check out The Beatles Anthology DVD'S for footage and more info).... it's that SIMPLE
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HelterSkelter
.... as far as Ledger I'm just saying that daily modern medical treatment (at least in the US, Europe is much better)
The dude (Heath) was a victim of modern medical practices IMHO.....
Well, the U.S-Europe comment is debatable. Something tells me you're
just an advocate for socialized medicine and want more nanny-state
welfare state nonsense here in the U.S. I don't see too many pepole lining up
to go to Europe for health care.
Ledger didn't die from modern mediacal practices.
He died from stupidity. Look at what was found in his body.
Percocet, Vicodin, Valium, Temazepam (used for insomnia),
Xanex, and a substance used in NyQuil.
You're an absolute idiot if you're taking all that stuff at once,
and he was certainly old enough to know better.
NOw, if he had only one doctor who perscribed all this,
then he/she should definitely have their license revoked.
And if he was seeing more than one, he should have told them
what he had been perscribed. THose are all downers he was taking.
A shame, yes, but he was asking for it.
As for TM, I wouldn't mind learning it.
But you see, the Maharishi was smart. He was a captialist,
which most of you hate. $2000 to learn it? Why not free if it's supposed
to bring about peace of mind and world peace?
Think about that next time you're at Starbucks.
___________ i had the good fortune to spend a little time with ledger very recently.... he was not an idiot by any stretch of anyone's imagination but obviously yours . . ... your naviety about drugs and what he should of done leaves me with just the suggestion you may let him rest in peace,, back off of talking about what you know nothing about........... ps. you mention why someone one 'maharishi' would charge money,, do you have a brilliant solution how one can exsist without charging/making money?????? nevermind, im sure no one needs to hear your reply...............
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-02-07 07:06 by soundcheck.
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HelterSkelter
.... as far as Ledger I'm just saying that daily modern medical treatment (at least in the US, Europe is much better)
The dude (Heath) was a victim of modern medical practices IMHO.....
Well, the U.S-Europe comment is debatable. Something tells me you're
just an advocate for socialized medicine and want more nanny-state
welfare state nonsense here in the U.S. I don't see too many pepole lining up
to go to Europe for health care.
Ledger didn't die from modern mediacal practices.
He died from stupidity. Look at what was found in his body.
Percocet, Vicodin, Valium, Temazepam (used for insomnia),
Xanex, and a substance used in NyQuil.
You're an absolute idiot if you're taking all that stuff at once,
and he was certainly old enough to know better.
NOw, if he had only one doctor who perscribed all this,
then he/she should definitely have their license revoked.
And if he was seeing more than one, he should have told them
what he had been perscribed. THose are all downers he was taking.
A shame, yes, but he was asking for it.
As for TM, I wouldn't mind learning it.
But you see, the Maharishi was smart. He was a captialist,
which most of you hate. $2000 to learn it? Why not free if it's supposed
to bring about peace of mind and world peace?
Think about that next time you're at Starbucks.
Well, tell your friend "SOMETHING" that he's got it 100% wrong. First of all I live in LA (much more than I wish too) and Paris (France, not Texas) part time (but not lately since the US dollar is in the toilet) so I've PERSONALLY been to numerous French Doctors as well as British, German, and numerous other European countries, my cousin is a heart specialist in Europe and another cousin is a Dentist - I know the systems inside out.
I've been to about 80 countries, some many times, and have been to Doctors from South America to Seychelles in my decades of traveling (not bragging, just presenting my case). So, with that much PERSONAL experience I can tell you FIRST HAND that the US medical system SUCKS (and it's getting worse and worse). Doctors are freaked out about lawsuits, they rely on very expensive machines and tests that should be replaced by more medical instinct and getting to know their patients a bit better. Over 100,000 patients die in US Hospitals every year due to "MISTAKES" (like given the wrong medication, etc) I will take the French medical system ANY DAY OF THE WEEK over the impersonal, overrated, fast-food-drive-thru US medical "so-called" care and am working right now on getting DUAL CITIZENSHIP.
Oh, and it's ILLEGAL for US Citizens to bring in medicine from other countries if it's also sold in the US. Say what? In the land of the free we can't bring in Antibiotics from Canada? Because the drugs might be contaminated? Gee, since 80% of our drugs come from China (land of lead paint on childrens toys) you'd think contamination is part of the package... wouldn't be because medicine is at least 50% cheaper ANYWHERE outside of the US. Wonder if the Pharmacutical companies have ANYTHING to do with this law????... let me think....let me think some more
Oh, and when you talk about "Socialized Medicine" and "Nanny-State"/"Welfare State nonsense" are you refering to the US provided MEDICARE, MEDICAL, or the VETERANS HOSPITALS and MEDICAL TREATMENT ?? Just in case you haven't noticed those are all SOCIALIZED and they seem to work pretty good - better than having your cancer treatment/heart surgery not covered by some rip off Insurance Company and then when you can't pay the bills they take your house away from you to cover the costs - happens all the time, NUMBER ONE cause of personal bankruptcies in the USA year after year. Now THAT'S what I call a CIVILIZED NATION !!
BTW, I don't go to Starbucks (and Maharishi had a right to charge whatever he wanted, he provided a service. Last time I checked that's the way THE WORLD worked), Back to coffee - I make my own Top Notch French or Italian or Swedish coffee at home since European friends always bring some when they visit (I'm not gonna drive for 10 minutes one way for a cup of coffee, what a waste of time and money) So, in closing, make sure to REFUSE your SOCIALIZED MEDICARE when you turn 65 years old - hate to see you become a victim of the very unmanly "Nanny State" and also refuse help from the POLICE and FIRE DEPARTMENT too cause they are also SOCIALIZED (and I'll settle for the same "Free" Health Care all our Senators and Congress members get since our taxes pay for it ALL)....Shouldn't "stereotype" cause as you see, you got it ALL WRONG......
WATCH, LISTEN, and LEARN - it's a big world out there (USA ain't the only country on the planet - no matter what they tell you on the radio)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-02-07 10:29 by HelterSkelter.
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DaveG
I was unaware that he was even still alive. He fell off the map when the Beatles left him behind, when they came to their senses.
Westerners are often infatuated by all things Eastern. The Beatles were no different.
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The Menace of Mayfair
(Lennon/McCartney)
Sexy Sadie what have you done
You made a fool of everyone
You made a fool of everyone
Sexy Sadie ooh what have you done
Sexy Sadie you broke the rules
You layed it down for all to see
You layed it down for all to see
Sexy Sadie oooh you broke the rules
One sunny day the world was waiting for a lover
She came along to turn on everyone
Sexy Sadie the greatest of them all
Sexy Sadie how did you know
The world was waiting just for you
The world was waiting just for you
Sexy Sadie oooh how did you know
Sexy Sadie you'll get yours yet
However big you think you are
However big you think you are
Sexy Sadie oooh you'll get yours yet
We gave her everything we owned just to sit at her table
Just a smile would lighten everything
Sexy Sadie she's the latest and the greatest of them all
She made a fool of everyone
Sexy Sadie
However big you think you are
Sexy Sadie