Not a bad read:




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Thanks much Title5Take1, really nice to read. Thank your neighbor for me too.

very interesting article, thanks!

Yeah great article, thanks gor scanning it. I have another good one from that period (thought it was Musician but it seems not) where he speaks about that psychedelic track he had and didnt use...can't have been "Charmed Life" surely! Will go out digging for it soon.

The magazine's summation of Jagger at the top of the article, before the interview begins, is very key to defining the continuation of Jagger's mystique.



Those first 2 paragraphs about the way he contradicts people, to keep them from pinning him down. This is why, to this day, biographies have failed to reveal the real Jagger. This is also why he will not release an autobiography. If he discloses everything, there would be nothing left to contradict. Part of his fame is the way he remains elusive. It's up to fans to project their own thoughts onto images of Mick Jagger, thereby his mystique is continually and perpetually renewed.

At least he was coherent and thoughtful concerning the Wyman departure. He wanted to say more, but at least he seems like he understood Wyman's role and how it could be difficult to replace someone who'd been in the Stones rhythm section that long. What Mick couldn't foresee is that they would permanently replace Bill with one person, and that it would not result in a 'more kicking rhythm section'.

Mick wrote the riff to Brown Sugar? is this for real? i've never heard that before...

is this for real? i've never heard that before...

Yep wrote it in the Aussie bush in between filming Ned Kelly ...



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god bless you Australia!

MICK: "I wrote Brown Sugar in Australia in the middle of a field. They were really odd circumstances. I was doing this movie, Ned Kelly, and my hand had got really damaged in this action sequence. So stupid. I was trying to rehabilitate my hand and I had this new kind of electric guitar, and I was playing in the middle of the outback and wrote this tune."

So Mick's actually been in "rehab," so to speak....

So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?

That's a classic too. I love that song

Mick wrote brown sugar, but did he come up with the actual riff? This has been posted on here before, I hear the chord sequence but not the riff:

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So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?

That's a classic too. I love that song

Edith Grove?

So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?


.......probably while touring there and man it sure is out-back ...



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So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?


.......probably while touring there and man it sure is out-back ...

Fantastic...I wanna see Warakurna...I think.

Rockman do I wanna see Warakurna or just hear about it?

Rockman do I wanna see Warakurna or just hear about it?

aboriginal town in WA ... lotta heat and red dirt .... wide open spaces



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Rockman do I wanna see Warakurna or just hear about it?

aboriginal town in WA ... lotta heat and red dirt .... wide open spaces

Many thanks
I'll bring the beer...Shiner I guess

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Mick wrote brown sugar, but did he come up with the actual riff? This has been posted on here before, I hear the chord sequence but not the riff:

"I´ve written riffs that people assume are Keith´s. That was the first one I did. I´ve done many since." Mick Jagger 1994
[www.timeisonourside.com]

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Mick wrote brown sugar, but did he come up with the actual riff? This has been posted on here before, I hear the chord sequence but not the riff:

"I´ve written riffs that people assume are Keith´s. That was the first one I did. I´ve done many since." Mick Jagger 1994
[www.timeisonourside.com]

I don't hear it there. Do you?

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"I´ve written riffs that people assume are Keith´s. That was the first one I did. I´ve done many since." Mick Jagger 1994
[www.timeisonourside.com]

That's not surprising that he would eventually write in a 'Keith Style'. When Keith played bass on JJF, or Mick Taylor did on Tumbling Dice (although there's confusion about that one), they did it in a 'Wyman Style'. That's why it was more difficult to replace Bill than they realized. Bill's 'style' of bass playing is as much a part of the Stones foundation sound as Keith's rhythm riffs. I would say that Charlie's drums on Doom & Gloom were, for the first time I can remember, not Charlie 'Stones' drums. And the guitar was definitely a ZZ Top knockoff. Although the song is good, I would say they only real 'Stones' thing about it is Mick's vocals.

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So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?

That's a classic too. I love that song

Where did REM write Cuyahoga? That is also a classic!

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So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?

That's a classic too. I love that song

Where did REM write Cuyahoga? That is also a classic!

Reno?

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So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?

That's a classic too. I love that song

Where did REM write Cuyahoga? That is also a classic!

Reno?

coulda been!

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So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?

That's a classic too. I love that song

Where did REM write Cuyahoga? That is also a classic!

Sorry...much like your RUSH (thank you) I have a few favorites from the past...

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"I´ve written riffs that people assume are Keith´s. That was the first one I did. I´ve done many since." Mick Jagger 1994
[www.timeisonourside.com]

That's not surprising that he would eventually write in a 'Keith Style'. When Keith played bass on JJF, or Mick Taylor did on Tumbling Dice (although there's confusion about that one), they did it in a 'Wyman Style'. That's why it was more difficult to replace Bill than they realized. Bill's 'style' of bass playing is as much a part of the Stones foundation sound as Keith's rhythm riffs. I would say that Charlie's drums on Doom & Gloom were, for the first time I can remember, not Charlie 'Stones' drums. And the guitar was definitely a ZZ Top knockoff. Although the song is good, I would say they only real 'Stones' thing about it is Mick's vocals.

You nailed it about D&G. Other than Jagger's voice, it sounds nothing like the Stones.

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So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?

That's a classic too. I love that song

Where did REM write Cuyahoga? That is also a classic!

Sorry...much like your RUSH (thank you) I have a few favorites from the past...

I saw Midnight Oil in Vancouver in 1988 in a gorgeous 3000 seat theatre called 'the Orpheum'. Great show.

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"I´ve written riffs that people assume are Keith´s. That was the first one I did. I´ve done many since." Mick Jagger 1994
[www.timeisonourside.com]

That's not surprising that he would eventually write in a 'Keith Style'. When Keith played bass on JJF, or Mick Taylor did on Tumbling Dice (although there's confusion about that one), they did it in a 'Wyman Style'. That's why it was more difficult to replace Bill than they realized. Bill's 'style' of bass playing is as much a part of the Stones foundation sound as Keith's rhythm riffs. I would say that Charlie's drums on Doom & Gloom were, for the first time I can remember, not Charlie 'Stones' drums. And the guitar was definitely a ZZ Top knockoff. Although the song is good, I would say they only real 'Stones' thing about it is Mick's vocals.

You nailed it about D&G. Other than Jagger's voice, it sounds nothing like the Stones.

I love DOOM AND GLOOM. I can't stand ZZ Top. I love the Black Keys. Mick said he'd been listening to the Black Keys a lot. Believable since they played with the Stones in Newark. I think the Black Keys were the biggest influence on DOOM AND GLOOM, particularly LONELY BOY.

(Does LOVE COMES AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT sound like the Stones? I love it, too.)

I guess I really don't like ZZ Top, and I'm don't want a phenomenon to happen like: When you see a really beautiful woman. And then you meet one of her parents, who is suprisingly unattracitve. But you now can see some similarities between the parent and the beautiful woman, and suddenly the beautiful woman isn't quite so beautiful, because now you're thinking of the ugly parent. I don't want to be thinking of ZZ Top when Ilisten to DOOM AND GLOOM. Oh, God, no....



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Mick wrote brown sugar, but did he come up with the actual riff? This has been posted on here before, I hear the chord sequence but not the riff:

"I´ve written riffs that people assume are Keith´s. That was the first one I did. I´ve done many since." Mick Jagger 1994
[www.timeisonourside.com]

I don't hear it there. Do you?

I don't know what riff you are talking about but the very start opening intro pre riff might be a Keith intro add-on, on the recorded version.

Some people, especially non guitar players might not be able to hear or understand what I'm trying to explain, which is fair enough.

Guitar players can easily check what I'm saying by watching Mick's fingers and also by playing along with Mick in the Ike and Tina Turner clip.

The main Brown Sugar riff is in the Mick, Ike and Tina Turner video (open G tuning Eb,C,Ab,Bb,C hope I got the key right) but Mick varies it a bit with 2 Eb,C changes instead of one (Eb,C,Eb,C,Ab,Bb,C) but the next time through the riff, it's the usual Eb,C,Ab,Bb,C.

Mick is playing the riff in a shorter beat way, a more hurried way, that's all.

It's still the Brown Sugar main riff that leads into the verse.

The Stones arrange things in a final way as the song get's recorded or is ready to record.

It's only a casual showing of the song to Ike and Tina but the opening riff, verse (get's changed a bit) and chorus are all there.

Mick also changed the verse to Gold Coast etc etc later on (maybe in the studio) as often happens with Stones songs as they get polished for the final recording.

Mick wrote the riff and the whole song, even Keith says so in his book.







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So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?

That's a classic too. I love that song

Where did REM write Cuyahoga? That is also a classic!

Sorry...much like your RUSH (thank you) I have a few favorites from the past...

I saw Midnight Oil in Vancouver in 1988 in a gorgeous 3000 seat theatre called 'the Orpheum'. Great show.

Great year to see them if you ask me...

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So where did Midnight Oil write Warakurna?

That's a classic too. I love that song

Where did REM write Cuyahoga? That is also a classic!

Sorry...much like your RUSH (thank you) I have a few favorites from the past...

I saw Midnight Oil in Vancouver in 1988 in a gorgeous 3000 seat theatre called 'the Orpheum'. Great show.

Great year to see them if you ask me...

I really liked them, bought the follow-up album with Blue Sky Mine on it, and then never heard from them ever again. The lead singer, Pete Garrett I think I heard was a lawyer and got elected to the Australian Parliament or something. That was over 20 years ago I think.