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toomuchforme
I bought some hd tracks of abkco but was not convinced
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kowalski
Forget about tech audio tests and trust your ears. On ABKCO tracks I can easily hear the difference.
Bass and highs sound more detailed and you get a thicker sound very close to the vinyl sound (though still not on par).
Also another advantage of High Rez files is frequencies above 20kHz are not cut off like on CD's. Which means you get everything that was on the original recording.
However when tracks are mastered very "hot" (a lot of compression and everything brought upfront), like UMG remasters that are used on the second half of GRRR! compilation, you will barely notice any difference.
High Rez is really made for respectfully mastered tracks, so that you can enjoy full dynamic range of the original recording.
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kowalski
Also another advantage of High Rez files is frequencies above 20kHz are not cut off like on CD's. Which means you get everything that was on the original recording.
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kowalski
Also another advantage of High Rez files is frequencies above 20kHz are not cut off like on CD's. Which means you get everything that was on the original recording.
Is the SACD included in 20kHz? AND How much of that 20kHz are we actually hearng?
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kowalski
As for UMG tracks (from Brown Sugar to One More Shot), they have the same level of compression as the CD and you will notice barely no difference. A
Finally some tracks that were recorded on analog equipment and should be available in full high resolution actually appear to be upsampled version from 44.1kHz sources (ie CD quality)!
edit : I'm talking about the HD download version. Don't know about the blu-ray release, but my guess is they are exactly the same.
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kowalski
As for UMG tracks (from Brown Sugar to One More Shot), they have the same level of compression as the CD and you will notice barely no difference. A
Finally some tracks that were recorded on analog equipment and should be available in full high resolution actually appear to be upsampled version from 44.1kHz sources (ie CD quality)!
edit : I'm talking about the HD download version. Don't know about the blu-ray release, but my guess is they are exactly the same.
mhmm... at least a lot of the after ABCKO-recors were released as very expensive newly reamstered fantastic sounding SACDs by UMG in Japan. I hoped that they would use those versions at least for the Blu ray.
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oldschool
Theoretically when you are born you have 20Hz-20Khz hearing but it goes down fast from there...by the time you are 50 you will be lucky to hear above 10-12Khz so all these claims about frequency response extending above 20Khz is nonsense as you just can't hear it.........
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kowalski
I doubt they would use those SACD as they were made by Universal Japan for Japan market only. They sound spectacular but they lack a proper mastering IMO. From what I understand they're merely a flat transfer from the original tapes.
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kowalski
I doubt they would use those SACD as they were made by Universal Japan for Japan market only. They sound spectacular but they lack a proper mastering IMO. From what I understand they're merely a flat transfer from the original tapes.
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Also another advantage of High Rez files is frequencies above 20kHz are not cut off like on CD's. Which means you get everything that was on the original recording.
Is the SACD included in 20kHz? AND How much of that 20kHz are we actually hearng?
I am an engineer at an Audio company and trust me Humans can't hear anything above 20Khz in fact by the time you are in your teens you most likely can't hear anything much above 15Khz.
Theoretically when you are born you have 20Hz-20Khz hearing but it goes down fast from there...by the time you are 50 you will be lucky to hear above 10-12Khz so all these claims about frequency response extending above 20Khz is nonsense as you just can't hear it.........
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"I am an engineer at an Audio company and trust me Humans can't hear anything above 20Khz in fact by the time you are in your teens you most likely can't hear anything much above 15Khz."
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"I am an engineer at an Audio company and trust me Humans can't hear anything above 20Khz in fact by the time you are in your teens you most likely can't hear anything much above 15Khz."
My dog is not going to like this when I tell him I'm not wasting money on these formats.
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"I am an engineer at an Audio company and trust me Humans can't hear anything above 20Khz in fact by the time you are in your teens you most likely can't hear anything much above 15Khz."
My dog is not going to like this when I tell him I'm not wasting money on these formats.
he's a purist isn't he? A bit obnoxious for my liking.
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"I am an engineer at an Audio company and trust me Humans can't hear anything above 20Khz in fact by the time you are in your teens you most likely can't hear anything much above 15Khz."
My dog is not going to like this when I tell him I'm not wasting money on these formats.
he's a purist isn't he? A bit obnoxious for my liking.
He's a little shitsu.
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toomuchforme
Thank you gotdablouse
I made a try with Doom and gloom in 44/16 and 88/24.
I hear no difference... maybe it would be different if that was 192/24 file ?
Test made with Linn Akurate DS / Naim supercap, naim 250.2 amp, Naim pre-amp 252.
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There is no video at all – this is an audio-only release – but the music is offered in three different audio formats:
2.0 PCM 24-bit/96Khz
2.0 DTS-HD Master Audio 24-bit/96KHz
2.0 Dolby True HD 24-bit/96KHz
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oldschool
Theoretically when you are born you have 20Hz-20Khz hearing but it goes down fast from there...by the time you are 50 you will be lucky to hear above 10-12Khz so all these claims about frequency response extending above 20Khz is nonsense as you just can't hear it.........
Okay but here's another way to put it. If you scan a photo at 100 dpi and you then print it you'll get an ugly result. If you scan the same document at 2400dpi and you print it I guarantee you you'll see the difference.
100 dpi is mp3 format 2400 dpi is HD.
Put differently make a A/D transfer of one hour of music. If you use a bitrate desgined for mp3 you'll get end up with a file that say 80 Mo in size.
If you transfer the same hour to HD/Pono format your file will be several Gb in size.
Don't tell me they'll sound the same... or you'll tell me then that DVD and Bluray look the same...