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1966 NME Awards show
Date: September 9, 2012 07:07

Stones and Beatles footage




Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: September 9, 2012 07:31

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withaheadfullofsnow
Stones and Beatles footage



Maybe the last time The Beatles dressed alike?

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 9, 2012 07:33

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71Tele
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withaheadfullofsnow
Stones and Beatles footage



Maybe the last time The Beatles dressed alike?

No. Candlestick Park.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 9, 2012 07:38

On second thought .... (this was filmed in September 1967)






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Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 9, 2012 07:41

On third thought .... (this was filmed on January 25, 1968)






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Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: September 9, 2012 09:55

The greatest bill ever: Beatles, Stones, Who, Small Faces, Yardbirds, Spencer Davis Group, Roy Orbison, Dusty, and others.
BTW, notice Paul's chipped front tooth?

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 9, 2012 17:59

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tomk
The greatest bill ever: Beatles, Stones, Who, Small Faces, Yardbirds, Spencer Davis Group, Roy Orbison, Dusty, and others.
BTW, notice Paul's chipped front tooth?

That was the old Paul, before he died in a car accident and was replaced by a lookalike who could also write, sing, and play bass just like him.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: September 9, 2012 18:01

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tatters
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tomk
The greatest bill ever: Beatles, Stones, Who, Small Faces, Yardbirds, Spencer Davis Group, Roy Orbison, Dusty, and others.
BTW, notice Paul's chipped front tooth?

That was the old Paul, before he died in a car accident and was replaced by a lookalike who could also write, sing, and play bass just like him.

I'm glad that happened...I prefer the new guy's dental work.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: BJPortugal ()
Date: September 9, 2012 18:12

No footage of them performing?

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: Youngie ()
Date: September 9, 2012 18:25

Only footage I can find of NME 1966 is:










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Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: stones1962 ()
Date: September 9, 2012 18:32

It's a shame the performances by the Beatles and Stones were not recorded.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: Youngie ()
Date: September 9, 2012 18:36

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stones1962
It's a shame the performances by the Beatles and Stones were not recorded.

Why wouldn't they have been recorded since The Yardsbirds were (for instance)?

EDIT: Oh so The Beatles & Rolling Stones sets weren't allowed to be filmed...



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Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: stones1962 ()
Date: September 9, 2012 20:13

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Youngie
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stones1962
It's a shame the performances by the Beatles and Stones were not recorded.

Why wouldn't they have been recorded since The Yardsbirds were (for instance)?

EDIT: Oh so The Beatles & Rolling Stones sets weren't allowed to be filmed...

Yes, from what I was told.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: September 9, 2012 23:08

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Youngie
Only footage I can find of NME 1966 is:






Dusty Springfield was great.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: Youngie ()
Date: September 10, 2012 00:57

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duke richardson
Dusty Springfield was great.

Diva of the 60's IMO. Joplin, Grace Slick, even Aretha pale in comparison.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: September 10, 2012 03:42

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tomk
The greatest bill ever: Beatles, Stones, Who, Small Faces, Yardbirds, Spencer Davis Group, Roy Orbison, Dusty, and others.
BTW, notice Paul's chipped front tooth?

It's in the Paperback Writer/Rain promo videos as well.









You can't see John's rotting soon-to-be-removed molar, though.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 10, 2012 03:54

Admit it. Aren't you just a little surprised that this late in their career (only a year before Let It Be) someone got them to put on matching shirts and act as if they were still the lovable mop tops of 1964?






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Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: September 10, 2012 04:09

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stones1962
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Youngie
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stones1962
It's a shame the performances by the Beatles and Stones were not recorded.

Why wouldn't they have been recorded since The Yardsbirds were (for instance)?

EDIT: Oh so The Beatles & Rolling Stones sets weren't allowed to be filmed...

Yes, from what I was told.

This is correct. Neither band agreed to be filmed. To settle who would get top billing, the show was split into two halves. The Stones closed the first part, and The Beatles closed the second.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 10, 2012 04:18

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Gazza
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stones1962
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Youngie
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stones1962
It's a shame the performances by the Beatles and Stones were not recorded.

Why wouldn't they have been recorded since The Yardsbirds were (for instance)?

EDIT: Oh so The Beatles & Rolling Stones sets weren't allowed to be filmed...

Yes, from what I was told.

This is correct. Neither band agreed to be filmed. To settle who would get top billing, the show was split into two halves. The Stones closed the first part, and The Beatles closed the second.

Which would make the Beatles, as the last band that played, the headliner.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: September 10, 2012 04:24

No. They were the show closers.

I've been to a few events where the headliner didnt close the show (maybe down to their own choice)

Van Morrison at last year's 'London Feis' at Finsbury Park being an example - he was the headline act but one or two bands did their sets after him.

You could say its a bit like boxing. Sometimes after the 'main event', you get a fight between two of the guys who were lower down the bill....usually it takes place in front of two men and a dog, mind you.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 10, 2012 04:32

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Gazza
No. They were the show closers.

I've been to a few events where the headliner didnt close the show (maybe down to their own choice)

Van Morrison at last year's 'London Feis' at Finsbury Park being an example - he was the headline act but one or two bands did their sets after him.

You could say its a bit like boxing. Sometimes after the 'main event', you get a fight between two of the guys who were lower down the bill....usually it takes place in front of two men and a dog, mind you.

You're not trying to tell me that the Stones in 1966 were the Beatles equal as a live concert draw, are you?

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: September 10, 2012 04:48

There have been various reasons floating around as to why both acts weren't filmed.
One is that both acts refused because they had the clout to do so. Another one is that Epstein couldn't reach a deal with ABC-TV. Also, the Beatles hadn't played live in 4 months, an eternity back then, and I doubt they even rehearsed for it. Mojo magazine had an interesting article about it a few years ago. The only thing I remember about it was Lennon was in kind of a foul mood that day. Has ALO ever commented on it? I don't know if it was a "if you're not gonna do it, we're not gonna do it either" type of thing. Whatever the reasons, it's a shame it wasn't filmed.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: September 10, 2012 05:08

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tatters
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Gazza
No. They were the show closers.

I've been to a few events where the headliner didnt close the show (maybe down to their own choice)

Van Morrison at last year's 'London Feis' at Finsbury Park being an example - he was the headline act but one or two bands did their sets after him.

You could say its a bit like boxing. Sometimes after the 'main event', you get a fight between two of the guys who were lower down the bill....usually it takes place in front of two men and a dog, mind you.

You're not trying to tell me that the Stones in 1966 were the Beatles equal as a live concert draw, are you?

No. That has nothing to do with it. Then again, as I was only two years old and had never produced or promoted an awards ceremony before, it wasnt my problem. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

I said that both acts wanted to be headliners and when this couldnt be resolved, the organisers compromised and decided to split the show into two halves.

Obviously, the Beatles were the 'bigger' name and attraction. Goes without saying. However, the way the show was put together gave both acts equal status.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: Title5Take1 ()
Date: September 10, 2012 05:27

Brian Epstein and Andrew Loog Oldham got in a big fight over who would close the show. It was George Harrison recommending to Dick Rowe of Decca that he check out the Stones that resulted in the Stones getting signed to Decca. So sort of ungrateful of the Stones to later not defer to the Beatles on this night.

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: September 10, 2012 06:22

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tatters
Admit it. Aren't you just a little surprised that this late in their career (only a year before Let It Be) someone got them to put on matching shirts and act as if they were still the lovable mop tops of 1964?


Surprising also that in 1965 when donning disguises in the film Help they anticipated uncannily the look of their later period.




Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: belubettlo ()
Date: September 10, 2012 06:51

Re: closing the show.

Supposedly, Jerry Lee Lewis and Chuck Berry were doing a show together and had a massive argument over who was going to close the show. After an extremely heated argument, Jerry Lee finally said fine, he'd go first.
By the end of his set, the crowd were on their feet and screaming. While he did his closer, "Great Balls of Fire", he sprayed the piano with lighter fluid and set it on fire while he played, and the crowd went berserk.
By the time he was done, people were ripping the seating out of the floors, sirens were going off, the piano was there in flames, and Jerry Lee strolled up to Berry and said "You're on, Chuck," or, less PC,"Follow that, n***er,"

Another non-PC JLL quote:

"I can play piano with my d*ck better than them sons of bitches can with both hands."



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Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: September 10, 2012 12:39

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Title5Take1
Brian Epstein and Andrew Loog Oldham got in a big fight over who would close the show.

My money would have been on Loog, I have to say!

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 10, 2012 15:42

Beatles dressed alike one last time!

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Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Date: September 10, 2012 18:46

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tatters
Surprising also that in 1965 when donning disguises in the film Help they anticipated uncannily the look of their later period.



Is that Yoko's reflection in the mirror????

Re: 1966 NME Awards show
Posted by: Happy Jack ()
Date: September 10, 2012 18:51

Wasn't the Saint/James Bond Roger Moore a presenter at some of these NME shows?

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