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OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: colonial ()
Date: November 4, 2011 12:58

James Bond like The Rolling Stones is another iconic British institution.It was announced yesterday work will begin on the 23rd Bond movie "SKYFALL" next week.Great news!smoking smiley



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Re: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: November 4, 2011 14:31

This is great news. I would be happy with one a year. It's been far too long. Hope they're not going to change actors again. Daniel Craig was great in Casino Royale, imo.

Re: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: November 4, 2011 14:43

Casino Royal is one of the best bonds made. One, it very much keeps to the core and intent of the book, and is taunt and gripping. The torture scene is classic Bond, and there is not a lot of comedy, but a lot of gripping action. Quantum of Solace was steaming pile of crap. Terrible and a big disappointment after the excellent Casino Royal. Let's hope they go back to Casino Royal's style.
I actually wish they would go back and re-do some of the previous films, but more like the books. A re-make of Dr. No and You Only Live Twice would be fantastic, especially if they go to the books for the story. Or go back and remake all the Roger Moore Bonds, that are for the most part campy, over acted and just plane terrible 70/80's schlock. Those films deviated even more from the books than the Connery films and could do with a reboot that would do them justice.



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Re: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: November 4, 2011 14:49

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frankotero
This is great news. I would be happy with one a year. It's been far too long. Hope they're not going to change actors again. Daniel Craig was great in Casino Royale, imo.

They're not. Craig will be in this one as well.

Re: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: November 4, 2011 15:03

this is akin to the franchise's 50th anniversary tour (of theatres).

Re: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: Sam Spade ()
Date: November 4, 2011 15:10

Daniel Craig is the best Bond other than Sean Connery. Roger Moore became too much of a silly Bond, Pierce Brosnan was nothing to write home about.

Daniel Craig brings more of a realistic Bond to the screen.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: uhbuhgullayew ()
Date: November 4, 2011 15:29

Connery the best by far......I also liked Dalton. Don't care for Craig and watching him play cards in the casino for 20 minutes was unnecessary.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: November 4, 2011 15:30

Imagine if James Bond was in charge of the 1973 drug raid at Keith's home.

The government would have a successful prosecution.
Bond would get a huge bonus from Scotland Yard and retire early.
Mick would be hanging out with the Bond girls.


Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: November 4, 2011 19:03

The first James Bond film I ever saw was On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Imagine my plight. To me, George Lazenby is, and will always be, James Bond.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: uhbuhgullayew ()
Date: November 4, 2011 19:08

Lazenby solied the Bond image when he married Pam Shriver.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: November 4, 2011 19:36

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uhbuhgullayew
Lazenby solied the Bond image when he married Pam Shriver.

Actually, he lived up to Bond's image as a phenomenal lover when he did that because prior to meeting him, Pam was clearly a lesbian. (Think Goldfinger, and how Bond seduced the unseduceable Pussy Galore.)



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Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: mickijaggeroo ()
Date: November 4, 2011 19:45

Stones should do the title song for the new Bond

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: November 4, 2011 19:52

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mickijaggeroo
Stones should do the title song for the new Bond

That's been discussed here many times. Bond films are always a kind of technological time capsule of the years in which they were made, so I think the title songs should be done by whoever happens to be hot at that particular moment. Maybe it should be this "Rihanna" person some of you guys have gone so gaga over.



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Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Date: November 4, 2011 19:58

quantum of solace was terrible and i guess i'm the only one who hates that they've turned bond into any old action hero..its just the bourne identity or anything else.


what is the point of the endless physical fights/action? bond is more about the witty dialogue punctuated with brief skirmishes


the last two movies really have lost the plot (I loved the casino scene though...)


i get it that people love daniel craig.. they want bond to be rambo or something..but that is not what bond is..

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: nanker phelge ()
Date: November 4, 2011 21:25

Great news - been too much of a gap between the last one.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: November 4, 2011 21:34

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mickijaggeroo
Stones should do the title song for the new Bond

They were approached to do one just after Voodoo Lounge came out, but it didnt happen.

So, if it had worked out, it may have been the Stones recording a (totally different) song called 'Golden Eye' instead of the one Tina Turner sang, which was written by Bono and The Edge.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: mickijaggeroo ()
Date: November 4, 2011 22:08

Stones are always hot.

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: November 4, 2011 23:21

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Gazza
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mickijaggeroo
Stones should do the title song for the new Bond

They were approached to do one just after Voodoo Lounge came out, but it didnt happen.

So, if it had worked out, it may have been the Stones recording a (totally different) song called 'Golden Eye' instead of the one Tina Turner sang, which was written by Bono and The Edge.

"Everything's Turning To Golden Eye (Now That The Love Juice Starts To Flow)"

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: Sam Spade ()
Date: November 5, 2011 01:01

Best line in Goldfinger

Bond: Ejector seat, you're joking

Q: I never joke about my work 007

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: November 5, 2011 02:33

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tatters
The first James Bond film I ever saw was On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Imagine my plight. To me, George Lazenby is, and will always be, James Bond.

OHSS is great! And Lazenby was quite good in it. I would have much preferred him to continue on over Roger Moore, but alas, he didn't want to do a series! It was he who dropped out.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: slew ()
Date: November 5, 2011 03:34

azenby was not bad at all......impossible to top Sean Connery he was awesome as Bond! Roger Moore started off ok but the films got silly. Live and Let Die, Man With the Golden Gun and The Spy Who Loved Me are great but then Moonraker and the films got kind of silly. Craig is pretty good. Casino Royale surprised me very good film! I miss Q and M though.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: November 5, 2011 04:19

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whitem8
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tatters
The first James Bond film I ever saw was On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Imagine my plight. To me, George Lazenby is, and will always be, James Bond.

OHSS is great! And Lazenby was quite good in it. I would have much preferred him to continue on over Roger Moore, but alas, he didn't want to do a series! It was he who dropped out.

I'm not sure about that. The next film was Diamonds Are Forever, in which Sean came back for one last go before Roger took over with Live And Let Die. If Sean rang them up and said he wanted to do another Bond film, they would have had to drop Lazenby, no matter how good he was, just because in those days Sean was James Bond and would have been given preference over any other actor.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: November 5, 2011 04:24

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tatters
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whitem8
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tatters
The first James Bond film I ever saw was On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Imagine my plight. To me, George Lazenby is, and will always be, James Bond.

OHSS is great! And Lazenby was quite good in it. I would have much preferred him to continue on over Roger Moore, but alas, he didn't want to do a series! It was he who dropped out.

I'm not sure about that. The next film was Diamonds Are Forever, in which Sean came back for one last go before Roger took over with Live And Let Die. If Sean rang them up and said he wanted to do another Bond film, they would have had to drop Lazenby, no matter how good he was, just because in those days Sean was James Bond and would have been given preference over any other actor.

You're right. I looked it up. Connery was invited back only after Lazenby quit, and only agreed to do one last Bond film because they offered him a great deal of money.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: November 5, 2011 04:28

YEs that is true, but he might not have considered doing Bond again if they had Lazenby locked in. Diamonds Are Forever is imo the weakest in the Connery Bond cannon (well Never Say Never would be my least favorite, but is a bit better made). Very depressing in some ways. The cheesy humor, the low budget look to it, and a totally lame climax on the oil platform, with the crane and Blowfeld. Terrible. Actually, Connery was fantastic on Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, and parts of You Only Live Twice. But he also had his share of some blunders, THunderball and Diamonds are Forever and Never Say Never Again. All three are tired, plodding, and deviate so much from the heart and soul of his earlier performances.

From Russia with Love is my favorite. More gritty, cerebral, and close to the book. Which is another reason for going back to the sources and make some solid spy movies that are closer to the book.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: November 5, 2011 04:41

I think Never Say Never Again, released in 1983, and not, technically, considered to be an official Bond film because it wasn't made by "the franchise", was an intriguing, but ultimately blown opportunity to show what Bond might have been like as a middle-aged man. Supposedly, Connery wanted to play him as he really looked; bearded and bald, but decided that's not how a 53-year-old Bond would look. He would have been vain, and he would have worn a wig.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: November 5, 2011 04:53

Now here's a bit of inspired casting. 68-year-old Sean Connery as the villain in the 1998 Avengers movie. How could they have known that with less than 10 minutes of screen time, he'd manage to sabotage the project by giving the most deliberately awful performance of his entire career.






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Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: November 5, 2011 06:22

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tatters
I think Never Say Never Again, released in 1983, and not, technically, considered to be an official Bond film because it wasn't made by "the franchise", was an intriguing, but ultimately blown opportunity to show what Bond might have been like as a middle-aged man. Supposedly, Connery wanted to play him as he really looked; bearded and bald, but decided that's not how a 53-year-old Bond would look. He would have been vain, and he would have worn a wig.

Well it was not part of the franchise, but definitely a Bond movie. Because it wasn't part of the franchise, they couldn't use the Bond music. But he was James Bond. It was basically a re-do of Thunderball. And seemed like a grab for the big pay off and the gamble didn't work.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: doubledoor ()
Date: November 5, 2011 06:37

I seem to remember Lazenby quitting, because as the first actor to try and replace Sean Connery, he was taking too much uneccesary shit and criticism. He never really stood a chance with the fans. I didn't care too much for him as Bond either, but his one movie is actually one of the least formulaic and interesting looking back.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: November 5, 2011 07:36

I agree about OHSS. It is the least formulaic, and has a lot of drama and is interesting. I think actually it is very similar to the new Bond formula in Casino Royal.

Re: OT: Iconic British Institution JAMES BOND'S 50th "SKYFALL"
Posted by: TheDailyBuzzherd ()
Date: November 5, 2011 08:59

"Skyfall" means fans expect the return of SPECTRE. Yeah, and The Stones are letting Jones back in the band too ...

"OHMSS" is the unpolished gem of the early series. True, Lazenby never truly gels as Connery did, but he does come close to the original character. He screws up alot. He screws alot. BUT the goofy dubbing of Donald Baker does hurt his performance. GOD, what a missed opportunity: Connery and Rigg. Dunno if Connery would've accepted the script as filmed ... I'm kinda thinkin' that Connery would've thought NOONE would've bought Bond as a celibate non-sophisticate.

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