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Re: Jimi Hendrix
Date: September 19, 2010 05:21

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24FPS
When we are long gone, and rock is put in it's rightful musical place, Jimi will be in the same category as Louis Armstrong, Bix, Buddy Rich, Charlie Parker, and a handful of others whose musical innovation and abilities transcend their genre. Late 60s rock music will be as seen as an art movement as indelible as the Impressionist period of the 1800s. No wonder Clapton and the other guitar gods quaked in their boots when Jimi stepped foot on British soil.


but wasn't clapton the one who gave jimi a chance by letting them open for cream?

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: clapton71 ()
Date: September 19, 2010 06:02

I watched JH bio on the Biography channel( 2 hours) and it was great. He was awesome but I loved to hear him speak. He was a quiet guy. Soft Spoken. I would have given anything to see him. I felt empty when the show was at its end and they showed several clips of his coffin. I have not stopped listening to him the last two days. I am thankful there was video of his performances.

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: September 19, 2010 11:44

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keefriffhard4life
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24FPS
When we are long gone, and rock is put in it's rightful musical place, Jimi will be in the same category as Louis Armstrong, Bix, Buddy Rich, Charlie Parker, and a handful of others whose musical innovation and abilities transcend their genre. Late 60s rock music will be as seen as an art movement as indelible as the Impressionist period of the 1800s. No wonder Clapton and the other guitar gods quaked in their boots when Jimi stepped foot on British soil.


but wasn't clapton the one who gave jimi a chance by letting them open for cream?

No,that was Jack Bruce. He allowed Jimmy to plug in his bass amp and join them.
Clapton didn't allow Jimmy to plug in for whatever reason.



A few minutes later, Clapton stopped playing. He lit a cigaret, and watched Hendrix playing, with a smile..
He realised that there was a new number one. (if there is one).
I red this in a Taylor related article.

Another about Jimmy:


Jimi Hendrix and The Beatles


On this day, September 18, in 1970, the greatest guitar player the world has ever known died under questionable circumstances in London, England. His influence on the Beatles was unmistakable. We'll spend a few moments remembering him now.



Jimi Hendrix, oddly, wasn't making it in the United States in 1966. Chas Chandler, the bassist for The Animals, discovered Hendrix in New York City and upon one listen, was determined to make Hendrix a star. Chandler brough Jimi over to the London music scene and the rest is history as they say.

For all his otherworldly guitar and songwriting talents, Hendrix remained surprisingly humble about his own playing and respectful to a fault to his fellow musicians whenever he encountered them. It was a unique quality that endeared him even more to his awestruck peers. The story goes that all Hendrix wanted was to make a record and meet Eric Clapton. Claton was just starting to get the world wide fame that has stayed with him to this day, in 1966. Hendrix was well aware of Clapton's talents and just wanted to meet the man and maybe jam with him. Chandler brought Hendrix to a club where The Cream was playing. Introductions were made and Jimi innocently asked if he could jam. Cream was at a loss as to what to say. You see, no one, not even the Beatles, asked to jam with Cream because they were considered so incredibly good. It just never happened. Finally, Jack Bruce told Hendrix he could plug his Stratocaster into his bass amp. What happened next is the stuff of legend. Hendrix just went ahead and did his thing and in the process blew Clapton right off the stage. The crowd that night were beyond amazed. Clapton, far from being hurt or insulted, became a devoted Hendrix fan on the spot as did everyone in the crowd that night. Word spread like wildfire about the American guitarist who blew Clapton out. To boot, the American was black, played it left handed with an upside down right handed Strat no less. Hendrix became a superstar in one week in London whereas his American audiances had largely ignored him. He had to go to England to be recognized for his talents.

The Rolling Stones, Beatles, Animals, Cream; everyone in England was a Hendrix fan. Paul McCartney was particularly fascinated with Jimi and began to mimic his playing style over the course of time. Note the opening lead riff on Sgt. Pepper, which the Beatles were recording at the time; neither George Harrison or Paul had ever played the guitar like that before. Ditto the riffing on "Sgt. Pepper Reprise" and "Good Morning, Good Morning." Paul played those licks and they were directly related to Hendrix's stylings.

Jimi's completely unconventional approach to guitar has made him the #1 guitarist of all time on every single "Best Guitarist" list ever created. He played an upside down, right handed Strat lefty. He reversed the strings of course but this lent an unusual sound all itself to the Fender Stratocaster such that the magnet poles on the pickups were set for a certain arrangement of strings. Thus, Hendrix was playing the top, thinner strings over the bassier sounding aspect of the pick up poles thus giving the thinner strings more a lush, warmer sound. The reverse was true for the larger bass strings which had more a brite sound to them being located over the treble aspect of the pick up poles. He also played in a unique chord-based lead riff style making it sound like there was both a rhythm and lead player on stage when it was only Hendrix.

His uncanny use of the wah-wah peddal was rivaled only by Clapton himself. Add to this his incredible playing chops and singularly unique way of playing all conspired to make Hendrix the greatest guitar player of all time, regardless of style, era, amplification or not, etc. He was one of the few rock players at the time using a Strat. He plugged it into a Marshall stack and together with the other aspects just discussed created a unique sound that inspired the other heavy weights of the British Rock scene to give the Stratocaster a try like Clapton, Pete Townsend, Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page.

Hendrix died apparently by virtue of choking on his own vomit while in a deep sleep brought on by an excess of sleeping pills. He was another in a series of bizarre rock star "J" deaths at the time within about a year of each other, all 27 years of age by the way: Janis Joplan, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Brian Jones (Stones). It was a cruel and terrible loss. Hendrix was branching out at the time with different players, styles and was considering utilizing full orchestras.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2010-09-19 13:26 by Amsterdamned.

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: yorkey ()
Date: September 19, 2010 14:04

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24FPS
Steve Vai said something to the effect that he could play what Hendrix played, but what freaks him out is how did Hendrix know to go there to begin with?

Damn, that's an awesome quote. Could you get the exact words for me, please?

You got the Sun, You got the Moon,
and you've got
The Rolling Stones

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: SimonN ()
Date: September 19, 2010 17:25

Hello,

A FB friend has just revealed that his brother's band once opened for The J.H.E., and there is a report of the show in the link below.

'Afore you read it, I think it is only proper that I highlight this quote:

"...not to be off-color, but at one point, Hendrix turned away from the audience, achieved an erection, and proceeded to play the guitar with it."

Now *that* is show-boating!

[www.digitalhighway.co.uk]

Cheers,

Si.

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: stones78 ()
Date: September 19, 2010 17:57

RIP Jimi Hendrix, what a genius, his rhythm playing was fascinating...also about that gig he played with Cream, has there ever surfaced a bootleg or something? It would be amazing to listen to that...I think Roger Waters has said he was at that show.

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: September 19, 2010 18:42

steve vai thinks he can play what jimi played??? gimme a break....

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: September 19, 2010 18:50




Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: September 19, 2010 20:01

America's introduction to the Jimi Hendrix Expeience - breathtaking




Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: September 19, 2010 20:14

was listening to a nice aud boot of jimi - 3-10-68 fillmore east - last night over a stogie and single malt. there'll just never be another like hendrix. the stogie and malt weren't half-bad either.

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: rattler2004 ()
Date: September 19, 2010 20:16

Hendrix was in a class all by himself, the rarest of the musically gifted. The guitarists' Motzart.

Zappa, Eddie Van Halen, SRV, Clapton, Beck & Page all deserve their laurels, but they are not in the same conversation as Jimi.

the shoot 'em dead, brainbell jangler!

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: September 19, 2010 20:18

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rattler2004
Hendrix was in a class all by himself, the rarest of the musically gifted. The guitarists' Motzart.

Zappa, Eddie Van Halen, SRV, Clapton, Beck & Page all deserve their laurels, but they are not in the same conversation as Jimi.

well, maybe they can be in the convo - hard to converse when the subject matter is so limited. but the convo goes just like you said - nice players; but no jimi.

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: September 19, 2010 20:30

"...whereas his American audiances had largely ignored him. He had to go to England to be recognized for his talents." Well, it's not like we had a change to ignore him, like he released some singles here and everybody yawned. Pretty much from the first chance we got, Monterey, we went nuts over Hendrix. 'Fire' was a radio hit. I think England was a brilliant move on Chas Chandler's part.

And wasn't Paul's first homage to Hendrix his solo on 'Taxman'?

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: September 19, 2010 20:30

Jimi Hendrix on the (American) Biography Channel right now!





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-09-19 21:06 by Edith Grove.

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: rattler2004 ()
Date: September 20, 2010 00:27

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StonesTod
Quote
rattler2004
Hendrix was in a class all by himself, the rarest of the musically gifted. The guitarists' Motzart.

Zappa, Eddie Van Halen, SRV, Clapton, Beck & Page all deserve their laurels, but they are not in the same conversation as Jimi.

well, maybe they can be in the convo - hard to converse when the subject matter is so limited. but the convo goes just like you said - nice players; but no jimi.

Fair enough.

the shoot 'em dead, brainbell jangler!

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: September 20, 2010 00:58

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StonesTod
steve vai thinks he can play what jimi played??? gimme a break....

Cannot imagine he said that.
He's a too smart player to make such a statement.
Every period has it's best guitar hero.

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: September 20, 2010 18:45

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Amsterdamned
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StonesTod
steve vai thinks he can play what jimi played??? gimme a break....

Cannot imagine he said that.
He's a too smart player to make such a statement.
Every period has it's best guitar hero.

just happened to catch steve vai in a concert vid on the tube last night. "yawn" would be an appropriate observation.

Re: Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: September 20, 2010 19:36

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StonesTod
steve vai thinks he can play what jimi played??? gimme a break....

What Steve Vai said is that one thing is to copy Jimi Hendrix, but a complete different matter is to create the music Jimi made. Which is the truth and quite a compliment.

In any case, you bet he can play Jimi!

C

Re: 0T: 40 years ago - Jimi Hendrix died
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: September 20, 2010 19:51

really don't understand the distinction. he can't copy jimi, no matter what he thinks.

Re: 0T: 40 years ago - Jimi Hendrix died
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: September 20, 2010 19:58

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T&A
really don't understand the distinction. he can't copy jimi, no matter what he thinks.

No one can copy Hendrix.
Some players come close.
Steve Vay is a great technician on guitar,yet he doesn't move me.
But once more:he is smart enough to see himself in the right perspective.
He was a Zappa employee. Only the best could get there.

Re: 0T: 40 years ago - Jimi Hendrix died
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: September 20, 2010 20:01

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Amsterdamned
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T&A
really don't understand the distinction. he can't copy jimi, no matter what he thinks.

No one can copy Hendrix.
Some players come close.
Steve Vay is a great technician on guitar,yet he doesn't move me.
But once more:he is smart enough to see himself in the right perspective.
He was a Zappa employee. Only the best could get there.

understood. but, jimi can't be copied, even in terms of the notes he played - cos he played notes that basically don't exist. he literally belonged to a different universe with a different set of physical laws....

Re: 0T: 40 years ago - Jimi Hendrix died
Posted by: stones78 ()
Date: September 20, 2010 20:01

Vai's playing doesn't come from the blues, he sounds really cheesy when trying to emulate Hendrix...

Re: 0T: 40 years ago - Jimi Hendrix died
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: September 20, 2010 20:06

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stones78
Vai's playing doesn't come from the blues, he sounds really cheesy when trying to emulate Hendrix...

he sounds cheesey, period. i watched the vid for about 5 minutes and found myself laughing at his antics...and i'm not sure it was intended to be laughed at....

Re: 0T: 40 years ago - Jimi Hendrix died
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: September 20, 2010 20:20

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stones78
Vai's playing doesn't come from the blues.

Is that an obligation to be a good player anyway?
Don't underestimate Vay.
It's not his mainstream but
I bet he has some blues influences, certainly in the beginning of the following clip....









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Re: 0T: 40 years ago - Jimi Hendrix died
Posted by: stones78 ()
Date: September 20, 2010 20:24

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Amsterdamned
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stones78
Vai's playing doesn't come from the blues.

Is that an obligation to be a good player anyway?

No, it's not but I was referring to the comment about Hendrix, to play in that style yes it's necessary to play blues, that's why some of his slower Hendrix-like songs like "Tender Surrender" sound cheesy and soulless.

Re: 0T: 40 years ago - Jimi Hendrix died
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: September 20, 2010 20:29

That's the truth indeed.
Vay's "Tender Surrender" is more a jazzy/fusion /rock way of playing.
It's Steve Vay.smiling smiley

Re: 0T: 40 years ago - Jimi Hendrix died
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: September 20, 2010 22:09

Two sweet torrents you need :

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Jimi Hendrix - Unsurpassed Masters (Studio Reels) 5 CDs
Direct from Masters, 1st or 2nd gen studio reels 9-9.5/10
5Hours 34Minutes of pure Jimi Hendrix in excellent sound quality!

My source: CDR > FLAC

CD1
01-13 Voodoo Child (Slight Return) Sessions 32:39
04-18 Rainy Day Dream Away Sessions 13:34
19-32 Mannish Boy Sessions (Part 1) 27:29

CD1 Total Time: 73:42

CD2
01-17 Mannish Boy Sessions (Part 2) 30:26
18-30 Mannish Boy Sessions (Part 3) 34:22

CD2 Total Time: 64:48

CD3
01 Jammin With Devon 3:22
02-04 Izabella Overdub Sessions 6:41
05-09 Honeybed (Including Nightbird Flying) 9:13
10 Beginnings 5:46
11 Bleeding Heart 3:55
12 Bolero 6:06
13 Crash Landing 4:44
14 Somewhere 4:22
15 Peace in Mississippi 4:52
16 Stone Free (Again) 4:12
17 Message to Love 3:55
18 Come Down Hard on Me Baby 3:56
19 Power of Soul 4:07
20 MLK 4:36
21 Power of Soul (Edit) 1:34

CD3 Total Time: 71:21

CD4
01-20 Power of Soul Sessions 35:08
21-24 How Can I Live Sessions 19:38

CD4 Total Time: 54:46

CD5
01-05 Power of Soul Sessions (Part 2) 13:36
06-10 Send My Love to Linda/Live and Let Live Sessions 15:10
11 Jimi on Bass 6:22
12-32 Bolero/Come Down Hard on Me Baby/Midnight Lightning Sessions 37:20

CD5 Total Time: 72:28

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The Jimi Hendrix Experience - The Complete Winterland Reels
(ATM 208-210/ATM 211-213)

Winterland Arena, San Francisco, October 10, 1968 (complete 1st
& 2nd show), October 11, 1968 (complete 1st show & 2nd show) and
October 12, 1968 (complete 1st & 2nd show).

Stereo Soundboard Digitally Restored (except October 11, tracks
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Silver CD > EAC > FLAC FrontEnd (L-8) rburly 11-06-2004
Artwork included

This is an upgrade of ATM 011-016 "Three Nights of Winter", which
was used for the "official" release "3 Nights At Winterland". The
sound of this compared to the 2nd Gen used for ATM 011-016 is
somewhat different. This version has more bass and it's also
"dryer" in sound (less reverb) than the 2nd Gen version. An
earlier flawed version of this Set is also in circulation. That
Set, sometimes also known as "Winterland Raw Source" and "A Raw
Winter", suffers from index clicks, DAT clicks and buzzes all
throughout, and was "leaked" to the general public by a mistake.
The Clean version (this) has 9 tracks on Disc 4 (11.10.68/2nd
Show), while the flawed version only has 8 (same amount of music,
just one less index mark).

The more than six hours of live music assembled here gives
Hendrix fans the first opportunity to compare The Experience’s
live performances. 2-performances per night for 3-days recorded
during the band’s temporary residence at San Francisco’s Winter-
land arena. Given that these recordings have been assembled from
a variety of different sources, the sound quality, with exception
of the last 3 tracks on Disc 3, which, as the soundboard tape had
mysteriously stopped running, have been taken from a less-than
perfect audience recording is excellent, and as usual, Jimi’s
virtuoso delivery is as varied and unpredictable as ever, as are
the technical problems which were invariably the sub-text of the
majority of Hendrix concerts.

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including detailed tracklists, on Hans-Peter Johnsen's In From
The Storm site: [home.online.no]

Lineup:

Jimi Hendrix: guitar (all tracks)
Mitch Mitchell: drums (all tracks)
Noel Redding: bass (all tracks)
Jack Casady: bass (disc 2, tracks 6, 7)
Virgil Gonzales: flute (disc 3, track 2)
Herbie Rich: organ (disc 4, tracks 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)

Setlist:

DISC 1: 1ST SHOW (October 10)

1. Intro/Tune-up (0:24)
2. Are You Experienced (7:36)
3. Voodoo Child (slight return) (7:38)
4. Red House (14:51)
5. Foxy Lady (6:12)
6. Like A Rolling Stone (9:44)
7. (This Is America) Star Spangled Banner (5:27)
8. Purple Haze / Outside Woman Blues (6:01)

Total running time: 58:00

DISC 2: 2ND SHOW (October 10)

1. Intro/Tune-up (2:28)
2. Tax Free (13:33)
3. Lover Man (4:27)
4. Sunshine Of Your Love (9:09)
5. Hear My Train A Comin' (12:57)
6. Killing Floor (with Jack Casady on bass) (9:19)
7. Hey Joe (with Jack Casady on bass) (5:31)
8. (This Is America) Star Spangled Banner (6:32)
9. Purple Haze (5:59)

Total running time: 70:38

DISC 3: 1ST SHOW (October 11)

1. Intro (2:02)
2. Are You Experienced (with Virgil Gonsales on flute) (17:05)
3. Voodoo Child (slight return) (8:14)
4. Red House (11:50)
5. Foxy Lady (5:44)
6. (This Is America) Star Spangled Banner (6:32)
7. Purple Haze (5:59)

Total running time: 57:35

DISC 4: 2ND SHOW (October 11)

1. Intro (0:29)
2. Tax Free (Drum & Bass) (20:32)
3. Spanish Castle Magic (11:05)
4. Like A Rolling Stone (with Herbie Rich on organ) (11:32)
5. Lover Man (with Herbie Rich on organ) (5:39)
6. Hey Joe (with Herbie Rich on organ) (5:13)
7. Fire (with Herbie Rich on organ) (4:44)
8. Foxy Lady (with Herbie Rich on organ) (5:13)
9. Purple Haze (5:53)

Total running time: 64:35

DISC 5: 1ST SHOW (October 12)

1. Intro (2:29)
2. Fire (3:47)
3. Lover Man (5:37)
4. Like A Rolling Stone (12:14)
5. Foxy Lady (6:53)
6. Drum & Bass Jam (Noel Redding & Mitch Mitchell) (8:58)
7. Tax Free (8:14)
8. Hey Joe (6:50)
9. Purple Haze (3:39)
10. Wild Thing (3:28)

Total running time: 61:57

DISC 6: 2ND SHOW (October 12)

1. Intro (1:32)
2. Foxy Lady (8:22)
3. Manic Depression (5:55)
4. Sunshine Of Your Love (9:07)
5. Little Wing (4:40)
6. Spanish Castle Magic (7:06)
7. Red House (12:08)
8. Voodoo Child (slight return) (7:02)
9. (This Is America) Star Spangled Banner (4:57)
10. Purple Haze (7:02)

Total running time: 67:57

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