Has anyone else here attempted something like this?

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I've been working on this myself (for my own private playing pleasure) in recent weeks, & I've come up with the 7 discs (+ a "bonus" live disc) below...


THE ROLLING STONES – ‘The Complete Studio Recordings’, 1963 – 1966

Disc 1: ‘Beginnings’ (1963)

1. Baby What’s Wrong
2. Bright Lights Big City
3. Diddley Daddy
4. I Want To Be Loved (v1)
5. Roadrunner
6. Come On (v1)
7. I Want To Be Loved (v2)
8. Fortune Teller
9. Poison Ivy (v1)
10. Bye Bye Johnny
11. You Better Move On
12. Come On (v2)
13. Memphis Tennessee
14. Roll Over Beethoven
15. I Wanna Be Your Man
16. Stoned
17. Go Home Girl
18. Money
19. Poison Ivy (v2)
20. My Only Girl
21. It Should Be You
22. Leave Me Alone


Disc 2: ‘The First LP’ (early 1964)

1. Route 66
2. Mona (I Need You Baby)
3. Carol
4. Walking The Dog
5. You Can Make It If You Try
6. Not Fade Away (v1)
7. Honest I Do
8. I’m A King Bee
9. Not Fade Away (v2)
10. Mr. Spector & Mr. Pitney Came Too
11. Can I Get A Witness
12. Little By Little
13. Now I’ve Got A Witness
14. Tell Me (v1)
15. I Just Want To Make Love To
16. Good Times Bad Times
17. Suzie Q
18. Tell Me (v2)
19. As Time Goes By (early version of ‘As Tears Go By’)
20. Beautiful Delilah


Disc 3: ‘A Trip To Mecca’ (mid 1964)

1. It’s All Over Now
2. I Can’t Be Satisfied
3. Stewed & Keefed
4. Around & Around
5. Confessin’ The Blues
6. Down In The Bottom
7. Down The Road Apiece
8. Empty Heart
9. High Heeled Sneakers
10. If You Need Me
11. Look What You’ve Done
12. Reelin’ & Rockin’
13. Tell Me Baby (How Many Times)
14. Don’t Lie To Me
15. 2120 South Michigan Avenue
16. Heart Of Stone (v1)
17. Blue Turns To Grey (v1)
18. Some Things Just Stick In Your Mind
19. Hear It
20. Each & Every Day Of The Year
21. (Walkin’ Thru The) Sleepy City
22. We’re Wastin’ Time
23. Try A Little Harder


Disc 4: ‘Breaking Through’ (late 1964)

1. Time Is On My Side (v1)
2. Congratulations
3. Crackin’ Up
4. Little Red Rooster
5. Off The Hook
6. Under The Boardwalk
7. You Can’t Catch Me
8. Grown Up Wrong
9. Surprise Surprise
10. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love (v1)
11. Down Home Girl
12. Heart Of Stone (v2)
13. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love (v2)
14. Hitch Hike
15. Oh Baby (We Got A Good Thing Goin’)
16. Pain In My Heart
17. Goodbye Girl
18. Key To The Highway
19. Mercy Mercy (v1)
20. Time Is On My Side (v2)
21. What A Shame
22. I’d Much Rather Be With The Boys


Disc 5: ‘Evolving Styles’ (1965)

1. The Last Time
2. Play With Fire
3. Mercy Mercy (v2)
4. That’s How Strong My Love Is
5. Under Assistant West Coast Promo Man
6. Cry To Me
7. Good Times
8. I’ve Been Loving You Too Long
9. My Girl
10. One More Try
11. (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction
12. The Spider & The Fly
13. Fannie Mae
14. Get Off Of My Cloud
15. She Said Yeah
16. The Singer Not The Song
17. Talkin’ ‘Bout You
18. Blue Turns To Grey (v2)
19. Gotta Get Away
20. I’m Free
21. As Tears Go By


Disc 6: ‘Walking On Water’ (late 1965 – early 1966)

1. 19th Nervous Breakdown
2. Sad Day
3. Mother’s Little Helper
4. Doncha Bother Me
5. Take It Or Leave It
6. Ride On Baby
7. Sittin’ On A Fence
8. Think
9. Looking Tired
10. Goin’ Home
11. Stupid Girl
12. Lady Jane
13. Under My Thumb
14. Flight 505
15. High & Dry
16. I Am Waiting
17. It’s Not Easy
18. Out Of Time (v1)
19. What To Do
20. Paint It Black
21. Long Long While
22. Con Le Mie Lacrime


Disc 7: ‘Buttoned Down’ (mid - late 1966)

1. Out Of Time (v2)
2. Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby (v1)
3. Who’s Driving Your Plane
4. Get Yourself Together
5. Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby (v2)
6. My Obsession
7. All Sold Out
8. She Smiled Sweetly
9. Yesterday’s Papers
10. Please Go Home
11. Miss Amanda Jones
12. Backstreet Girl
13. Cool, Calm, Collected
14. Something Happened To Me Yesterday
15. Who’s Been Sleeping Here
16. Complicated
17. Connection
18. If You Let Me
19. Ruby Tuesday
20. Let’s Spend The Night Together


Disc 8 (bonus CD): ‘Live!’ (1964 - 1967)

1. Roll Over Beethoven
2. Cops & Robbers
3. Little By Little
4. I Just Want To Make Love To You
5. Confessin’ The Blues
6. Carol
7. Everybody Loves Somebody To Love (long version)
8. Pain In My Heart
9. Down The Road Apiece
10. Time Is On My Side
11. Route 66
12. I’m Movin’ On
13. I’m Alright
14. Off The Hook
15. Little Red Rooster
16. Craw-Dad
17. Mercy Mercy
18. That’s How Strong My Love Is
19. 19th Nervous Breakdown
20. Get Off Of My Cloud
21. Lady Jane
22. Mother’s Little Helper
23. (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction
24. Under My Thumb
25. The Last Time
26. Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby
27. Ruby Tuesday
28. Paint It Black

1: UK Tour, Feb – March 1964 (broadcast on ‘Saturday Club’ [BBC Radio], 8th March 1964)
2: ‘Blues In Rhythm’ (BBC Radio), 19th March 1964
3 – 4: ‘The Joe Loss Show’ (BBC Radio), 10th April 1964
5 – 6: ‘The Joe Loss Show’ (BBC Radio), 17th July 1964
7 – 13: UK Tour, March 1965 (‘Got Live If You Want It!’ EP + outtakes)
14 – 16: Paris, 18th April 1965
17 – 18: St. Kilda (Australia), 24th February 1966
19 – 20: Paris, 29th March 1966
21 – 23: Honolulu, 28th July 1966
24 – 26: UK Tour, October 1966 (‘Got Live If You Want It!’ LP: mono fold-downs of stereo LP mix)
27 – 28: Paris, 11th April 1967

Wow, looks great! I also enjoy myself with these kind of projects, but I never being able to construct anything this definitive!

Besides I really admire your titles and the decisions how to cut the discs - it is always challenging to come up with right concepts that compromises with music, amount of songs, etc. Really, really good work! Congratulations!

- Doxa



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Doxa
Wow, looks great! I also enjoy myself with these kind of projects, but I never being able to construct anything this definitive!

- Doxa

Thanks! Most of these make far more sense to my ears than the "proper" early albums, which apart from (to an extent) the first LP & BTB were pretty much just a mish-mash from different sessions & locations (even 'Aftermath' was constructed half from the earlier aborted 'Can You Walk On Water?' album & half from some new sessions 3 months later).

Here is two of my efforts, covering just official stuff. It is funny to think these kind of things through...

"A Definitive Blues Collection"

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"Most Profilic Songs"

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- Doxa

I'm turned on with ideas like this too, and I guess I have most of the songs, but I'm not sure of 'Come On' v1 and 'Come On' v2 2 studiorecordings excisting? And on what records?

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Very interesting, Sleepy City!!

And scaringly similar to my own configuration of these years...

CD 1 - same tracks

CD 2 - I included Congratulations/Andrew´s Blues/Rice Crispies Jingle and excluded As Time Goes By (not really a group effort, IMO)

CD 3 - no ALO0 tracks for me...but including Crackin´ Up and Time Is On My Side(1)

CD 4 - included Ain`t That Loving You Baby/2120...(BBC), no I´d Much Rather...

CD 5 - same, but including Looking Tired(which perhaps belongs to the next...)

CD 6 - no Con Le Mie(Mick solo, I think), but included the alternate vocal 19th Nervous...and the instrumental Paint It Black

That´s as far as i have come...

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Come On
I'm turned on with ideas like this too, and I guess I have most of the songs, but I'm not sure of 'Come On' v1 and 'Come On' v2 2 studiorecordings excisting? And on what records?

Come On v2 is really the BBC version (included because it's quite different & also in great quality).

Great! Only thing I would change is to start it all with Bright Lights, Big City as it has a great intro and is a perfect example of Brian and Keith weaving together and the track is just a perfect group performance where everyone is as one strong unit.

Looks very good. I did something similar, my inspiration was the Purple Chick versions of Beatles albums. They were put together before the remasters that came out in 09, they were made up of mono and stereo vinyl rips on high end equipment, any alternate US album releases, singles, outtakes, etc. And, of course, they used the British albums as the basis, just like the CD issues of the beatles did. I wish the Stones CD issues were based on the British Albums.

I kept the album titles as the titles of my discs, putting singles, alternate versions, and then outtakes on the end of the album. I combined out of our heads and December's children since they are from the same sessions. I know things like You better move on are from previous sessions, complicating things, but I got to know these albums this way, so I kept it this way. I posted my outtakes collections on here a few months ago for each album that I compiled from different outtake discs, choosing the best versions of each song.

iorr

I think it's the best way for hardcore fans to listen, you get everything from those sessions that you can.

Matt

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Come On
I'm turned on with ideas like this too, and I guess I have most of the songs, but I'm not sure of 'Come On' v1 and 'Come On' v2 2 studiorecordings excisting? And on what records?

Come On v2 is really the BBC version (included because it's quite different & also in great quality).

Phew! Then I have it on 'Beat Beat Beat'..marvellous recordings all over...

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His Majesty
Great! Only thing I would change is to start it all with Bright Lights, Big City as it has a great intro and is a perfect example of Brian and Keith weaving together and the track is just a perfect group performance where everyone is as one strong unit.

Good point! Either that or 'Diddley Daddy' (I always hear that song first in my mind as it was the opening song when I first heard the IBC outtakes on a bootleg decades ago!).

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His Majesty
Great! Only thing I would change is to start it all with Bright Lights, Big City as it has a great intro and is a perfect example of Brian and Keith weaving together and the track is just a perfect group performance where everyone is as one strong unit.

Good point! Either that or 'Diddley Daddy' (I always hear that song first in my mind as it was the opening song when I first heard the IBC outtakes on a bootleg decades ago!).

Yeah, I think that's the first track on all of the bootlegs. The wonky pitch at the start of it is irritating though.

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Sleepy City
Has anyone else here attempted something like this?

Well, I did - but on a German board. But that doesn't matter much. You're right doing so.
A chronological approach seems to me the only reasonable effort for future re-issues. This makes especially sense for the Decca years with their confusion of record sleeves, lp titles and track lists.

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Sleepy City
Has anyone else here attempted something like this?

Well, I did - but on a German board. But that doesn't matter much. You're right doing so.
A chronological approach seems to me the only reasonable effort for future re-issues. This makes especially sense for the Decca years with their confusion of record sleeves, lp titles and track lists.

Exactly. It is goddamn difficult nowadays to get sense of the 60's catalogue if you are not a real Stones specialist. Decca/London screwed big time - not a the time but for the future. It is such a mess. Of course, each album and release has its own unique historical value but taken the fact that many of the early albums were not actually very carefully considered artistic wholenesses I hope there could be a better way to present the music. But I know there are two schools here...

- Doxa

Bills Stone Alone can tell us a lot about recordings and songs...

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Great line-up! The early Stones is so underrated. I think everyone should hear the IBC Demos. They are so good.

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