I have watched again in details the dvd. We know that the Exile tapes were not properly archived. The fact is that in Being Mick you see that the BASF boxes contains some boxes with names and numbers on it. But I believe it was not properly kept as a cardboard is not steel and could be damaged easily. A cardboard can be crushed or whatever.
The tapes seen in Being Mick are from 77 to 82, from Some girls to Undercover.

You can see :

1979-4 (number 28206)
PARIS
16 TRACKS
Emotional Rescue
She's So Cold
Stock in ... ?
Dance

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1980 - 4
PARIS MOBILE
Vagina
Neighbours
Waiting on a Friend


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107
1982- 16
PARIS 24 TRACKS

I wanna Hold You
Tie You up x 2
Triple (?) Fn (?) x 2


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1977 - 3
PARIS 16 tracks

Rotten Row (?)
Imagination
Respectable
Beast Of Burden
Lies


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1982-12
PARIS

Too Much Blood
Copy of master
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Copy of 24 tr (?)

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1977
24 TRACKS PARIS

Impossible to see what's written under...



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Reflections are :

- these tapes are only Paris ones. We know that Nassau, New York for instance are other places for recordings during this period. So there are more tapes. A lot.

- some songs written on the boxes are not on the Place Pigalle volumes or VGP's outtakes we have (Vagina, Stock in, Rotten row ...). So we do not heard everything. Remember that SO YOUNG is from Some Girls sessions but we did not know it until it was released on Out of Tears single cd in 94.

- only a few songs are written on each box when the box mentions 24 tracks for instance. So imagine that only in this cardboard you have at least 87 songs and/or versions of songs !

I cannot identify the song played behind Mick when he speaks about the digital transfer. Someone recognize it ?

"we know it's a bit late but we hope you don't mind if we stay"

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- some songs written on the boxes are not on the Place Pigalle volumes or VGP's outtakes we have (Vagina, Stock in, Rotten row ...).

The Vagina Album was a working title for Tattoo You. That was reported by Bill German in his Beggars Banquet fanzine. Rotten Roll was a working title for one of the SG tracks but I can't remember exactly which one.

i noticed the tapes right off,first time i saw "being mick"

i've always believed mick has everything the stones have ever done archived,live or in the studio.

the whole "i dont know which songs are on which record" is all an act.he knows what he did and when he did it.theres no way a guy that meticulous doesnt have a handle on his lifes work.he could probably go on his laptop and tell you how many t-shirts they sold in boise idaho on the last tour.

i'll bet when they decided to do the exile thing he went into a storage room and pulled out what he had.they go to the press and act like they discovered some artifact from an archealogicol dig because it makes a good story for the press.

if the exile project makes money there will be more.much more.

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- only a few songs are written on each box when the box mentions 24 tracks for instance. So imagine that only in this cardboard you have at least 87 songs and/or versions of songs !

That's the multi-track note so they make sure not to put the reel onto a 16 track recorder, not the amount of songs. You can't fit 24 songs on those tapes unless you're doing very very very very short songs and no multiple takes!

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- some songs written on the boxes are not on the Place Pigalle volumes or VGP's outtakes we have (Vagina, Stock in, Rotten row ...).

The Vagina Album was a working title for Tattoo You. That was reported by Bill German in his Beggars Banquet fanzine. Rotten Roll was a working title for one of the SG tracks but I can't remember exactly which one.

'Before They Make Me Run', I think.

The title 'Rotten Roll' has appeared on other songs on Stones bootlegs from that era, but only because the bootleggers were being lazy or just didnt know the title of the song in question.

Rotten Roll is Before they Make Me Run...

"remember that SO YOUNG is from Some Girls sessions but we did not know it until it was released on Out of Tears single cd in 94"

Wrong : it was on one of the "Paris Results" boot cd around 1993.

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"remember that SO YOUNG is from Some Girls sessions but we did not know it until it was released on Out of Tears single cd in 94"

Wrong : it was on one of the "Paris Results" boot cd around 1993.

which was taken from an Outsider Bird Records vinyl boot from 1 or 2 years before that.

Mathijs

Triple X was one of the working titles for Pretty Beat Up.

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you ruin my hopes

"we know it's a bit late but we hope you don't mind if we stay"

So the song that is called Rotten Roll on the boots is not called that but actually has another title? News to me! Never knew Before They Make Me Run had that as a working title.

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SO YOUNG is from Some Girls sessions but we did not know it until it was released on Out of Tears single cd in 94.

The original track comes from the SG sessions but the released one has been hardly overdubbed in 1993, especially the vocals, totally redone.

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The original track... has been hardly overdubbed..., especially the vocals, totally redone.

So which is it? Very little overdubbing in general, as in 1978 or 1993? No overdubbing at all? Or the only overdubbing was the vocal in 1993?

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SO YOUNG is from Some Girls sessions but we did not know it until it was released on Out of Tears single cd in 94.

The original track comes from the SG sessions but the released one has been hardly overdubbed in 1993, especially the vocals, totally redone.

Yes I heard at the time caus' it sounded really like VL voice style.

"we know it's a bit late but we hope you don't mind if we stay"

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toomuchforme
SO YOUNG is from Some Girls sessions but we did not know it until it was released on Out of Tears single cd in 94.

The original track comes from the SG sessions but the released one has been hardly overdubbed in 1993, especially the vocals, totally redone.

Yes I heard at the time caus' it sounded really like VL voice style.

Vocals where redone, and Chuck Leavell added his plinky plink piano.

Mathijs

"plinky plink piano"
Mathjis listen to the Atlanta'81 "club" show SB tape (where Chuck sat in) and you'll see when the nightmare began for us fans...