Hi everyone,

There's been much discussion about the version of "Six Days.." by the FBB in the Gimme Shelter movie and whether it's the actual live version they performed that fateful day or if it's the studio version.

I have maintained it was the studio version as I'm a fan of the band's work and have alot of their albums.

I received a bootleg a long time ago and tacked on the end of one of their Frisco concerts was a live version of "Six Days On The Road"...then quite amazingly I hear the famous tired voice of Sam Cutler reporting about the birth of a baby !! Then even more bizarre is a radio broadcaster reporting this moment!!

With the recent TradersDen download of a new tape of the concert by some guy recording it for a local radio station, it now dawned on me that this is in fact the TRUE live version of this song recorded by the same guy! And the song in the GS movie is rubbish - it is the studio version.

I have created a windows media player version for people to check it out.

[www.sendspace.com]

If you want FLAC or equivalent let me know.

Regards,
ER

THANK YOU for posting this. I always suspected as much with regards to the version in Gimmee Shelter.

You know, even without Cutler and the DJ at the end, I thought that it "sounded" like the other Altamont recordings I've heard... Cold, heavy December air...

I just heard that there is a 3 cds and 1 DVD coming out in Japan called Altamont that lists all songs played that day (and night),here is tracklistings:
ROLLING STONES & GUESTS -ALTAMONT FREE CONCERT 1969

DISC 1 (CD)

01. PA Sound Check with Moog
02. Opening Announcement
SANTANA
03. Savor
04. Jingo
05. Evil Ways
JEFFERSON AIRPLANE
06. Announcement
07. The Other Side Of This Life
08. 3/5th Of A Mile
09. Fat Angel
10. White Rabbit
11. Free Bird
12. Ballad Of You&Me&Pooneil
FLYING BURRITO BROTHERS
13. Six Days On The Road
14. High Fashion Queen
15. Cody Cody
16. Lazy Day
CROSBY,STILLS,NASH&YOUNG
17. Black Queen
18. Pre-Road Downs
19. Long Time Gone
20. Down By The River
21. Announcement for The Rolling Stones

Lowest generation & best quality
source, including the newly found
local radio broadcast and some
soundboard recordings.
--------------------------

DISC 2 (CD)

THE ROLLING STONES
01. Introduction
02. Jumping Jack Flash
03. Carol
04. Sympathy For The Devil
05. The Sun Is Shining
06. Stray Cat Blues
07. Love In Vain
08. Under My Thumb
09. Brown Sugar
10. Midnight Rambler
11. Live With Me
12. Gimme Shelter
--------------------------

DISC 3 (CD)

THE ROLLING STONES
01. Little Queenie
02. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
03. Honky Tonk Women
04. Street Fighting Man

BONUS TRACKS
05. MC by The Taper on Radio
06. Introduction
07. Jumping Jack Flash
08. Carol
09. MC by The Taper on Radio
10. Sympathy For The Devil
11. Evil Ways
12. Jumping Jack Flash
13. Carol
14. Mick Jagger Live MC
15. Sympathy For The Devil

Lowest generation & best quality
source, including the recently
circulated soundboard recordings
& newly found local radio broadcast,
plus live excerpts from Newswatch
------------------------------

DISC 4 (DVD)

ALTAMONT WAS THE NIGHTMARE
01. IMP Slate
02. Prologue
03. The Altamont Venue
04. CSN&Y Live Scene
05. The Stones Live Scene

ALTAMONT WEEKEND
06. IMP Slate
07. Opening MC
08. Jumping Jack Flash
09. Carol
10. Letfs Get Together
11. Report & Interviews
12. Evil Ways
13. Carol
14. Mick Jagger Live MC
15. Sympathy For The Devil
16. Report & Interviews
17. Ending MC
18. Let's Get Together

With Japanese Subtitle

ALTAMONT WAS THE NIGHTMARE
Rare 8mm silent film of CSN&Y
and The Stones in Altamont e69
(Narration with dubbed audio)
ALTAMONT WEEKEND
Newswatch, KRON-TV, Frisco,
Telecast on December 8th e69
(Audio with photo slide show)

It's a different source than the one that came available a while ago.

[www.iorr.org]

Mathijs

yeah I saw that Japanese CD/DVD...looks interesting but it will just be a combination of wat is now "out there".

This aud recording of "Six Days.." has been around for ages (well I've had it for at least 6 years)...I'm guessing bootleggers and the like have just assumed the Gimme Shelter version of Six Days is the Burritos performance of the song but in soundboard quality and never bothered to check other sources.

Mathijs - is this source that you mention the Gimme Shelter version of the song?

ER

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Eleanor Rigby

Mathijs - is this source that you mention the Gimme Shelter version of the song?

ER

I am not a FBB expert, but this recording to me is the audience recording of part of the FBB set. I never compared it to the GS version.

Mathijs

ok - thanks. I have had that version (well it has the same artwork) for ages and it includes the "gimme shelter" Six Days...but if you think it's an aud. rec then I might have to download it all again!

Another question for everyone : how many songs did the pre-show acts play?
the Burritos played 4, CSNY played 4, Airplane 6, Santana 2...would like to know the extents of each of the pre-show acts setlists as this seems pretty short...

thanks



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riccardo99
I just heard that there is a 3 cds and 1 DVD coming out in Japan called Altamont that lists all songs played that day (and night),here is tracklistings:
ROLLING STONES & GUESTS -ALTAMONT FREE CONCERT 1969

DISC 1 (CD)

01. PA Sound Check with Moog
02. Opening Announcement
SANTANA
03. Savor
04. Jingo
05. Evil Ways
JEFFERSON AIRPLANE
06. Announcement
07. The Other Side Of This Life
08. 3/5th Of A Mile
09. Fat Angel
10. White Rabbit
11. Free Bird
12. Ballad Of You&Me&Pooneil
FLYING BURRITO BROTHERS
13. Six Days On The Road
14. High Fashion Queen
15. Cody Cody
16. Lazy Day
CROSBY,STILLS,NASH&YOUNG
17. Black Queen
18. Pre-Road Downs
19. Long Time Gone
20. Down By The River
21. Announcement for The Rolling Stones

Lowest generation & best quality
source, including the newly found
local radio broadcast and some
soundboard recordings.
--------------------------

DISC 2 (CD)

THE ROLLING STONES
01. Introduction
02. Jumping Jack Flash
03. Carol
04. Sympathy For The Devil
05. The Sun Is Shining
06. Stray Cat Blues
07. Love In Vain
08. Under My Thumb
09. Brown Sugar
10. Midnight Rambler
11. Live With Me
12. Gimme Shelter
--------------------------

DISC 3 (CD)

THE ROLLING STONES
01. Little Queenie
02. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
03. Honky Tonk Women
04. Street Fighting Man

BONUS TRACKS
05. MC by The Taper on Radio
06. Introduction
07. Jumping Jack Flash
08. Carol
09. MC by The Taper on Radio
10. Sympathy For The Devil
11. Evil Ways
12. Jumping Jack Flash
13. Carol
14. Mick Jagger Live MC
15. Sympathy For The Devil

Lowest generation & best quality
source, including the recently
circulated soundboard recordings
& newly found local radio broadcast,
plus live excerpts from Newswatch
------------------------------

DISC 4 (DVD)

ALTAMONT WAS THE NIGHTMARE
01. IMP Slate
02. Prologue
03. The Altamont Venue
04. CSN&Y Live Scene
05. The Stones Live Scene

ALTAMONT WEEKEND
06. IMP Slate
07. Opening MC
08. Jumping Jack Flash
09. Carol
10. Letfs Get Together
11. Report & Interviews
12. Evil Ways
13. Carol
14. Mick Jagger Live MC
15. Sympathy For The Devil
16. Report & Interviews
17. Ending MC
18. Let's Get Together

With Japanese Subtitle

ALTAMONT WAS THE NIGHTMARE
Rare 8mm silent film of CSN&Y
and The Stones in Altamont e69
(Narration with dubbed audio)
ALTAMONT WEEKEND
Newswatch, KRON-TV, Frisco,
Telecast on December 8th e69
(Audio with photo slide show)

Do you know when this is coming out? I would love to get a copy.

Greetings from the Jersey Shore.

I think it has just been relased, but I don't have it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-12-20 18:33 by riccardo99.

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Eleanor Rigby
ok - thanks. I have had that version (well it has the same artwork) for ages and it includes the "gimme shelter" Six Days...but if you think it's an aud. rec then I might have to download it all again!

Another question for everyone : how many songs did the pre-show acts play?
the Burritos played 4, CSNY played 4, Airplane 6, Santana 2...would like to know the extents of each of the pre-show acts setlists as this seems pretty short...

thanks

riccardo99's post shows three Santana songs

Greetings from the Jersey Shore.

thanks for posting!

ER--you are right--I stand corrected

more evidence of how trumped up the Maysles Bros made Altamont - and of course, The Burritos did not kick things off, as is blatantly suggested here--they played AFTER CSNY when things had already gone to hell--the bros. played way too fast and loose with the facts for me--it makes Gimme Shelter a docu-drama--not a documentary

I believe that 3-cd/1 dvd set just came out because one of my Japanese distributors has it listed (for $80). The front cover is on their new release page.

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hbwriter
ER--you are right--I stand corrected

more evidence of how trumped up the Maysles Bros made Altamont - and of course, The Burritos did not kick things off, as is blatantly suggested here--they played AFTER CSNY when things had already gone to hell--the bros. played way too fast and loose with the facts for me--it makes Gimme Shelter a docu-drama--not a documentary

Yeah they might have had no choice...perhaps the music was faulty when compiling the movie and they fell back to using the studio version...who knows.
I remember JumpingKentFlash actually had a response from the Maysles about what other footage they had...perhaps the Maysles might be able to answer some questions about the FBB's music?

Note: There is also some extra Altamont footage I have on DVD of the Angels & the crowd with the Jefferson Airplane playing "Other Side Of This Life"...which sounds completely different to the version on the Gimme Shelter movie!!!!

ER

Don't sweat it, all of the recent IMP releases have shown up on HungerCity lately.

J

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django

Thanks, django.

If anyone knows where I can buy one of these sets, please let me know.

Greetings from the Jersey Shore.

Does anyone have this? I'm wondering how the sound is...

How can I buy it?

I just received this release. It is pretty good. What is amazing about it, is that they are using different sources. In mid-song it will make a radical switch. It ALMOST sounds like they are going from SB to AUD,
On "Stray Cat" e.g. the verses are like a monitor mix, and it goes to the guitar solo in C and it jumps into a wide audience type recording.

Am I the only one here who enjoys an audience recording in complete form only, and a soundboard source in complete form, but not a combination of the 2 ?

I hate it when bootleggers have a mix of all sources..one or the other IMO.

Great version but ultimately hampered by lazy lead vocals. Gram was a little inconsistent.

Check out this version though after Gram left with Chris Hillman on vocals and Al Perkins on pedal steel and Byron Berlin on fiddle:







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Eleanor Rigby
Am I the only one here who enjoys an audience recording in complete form only, and a soundboard source in complete form, but not a combination of the 2 ?

I hate it when bootleggers have a mix of all sources..one or the other IMO.

Agree with you ER, but I hate not having a complete show including all the bewtween song banter even more so I can live with a audience and SB mix if that means I get a complete show.....

Thanks for this--I just sent it along to Chris Hillman

so how does one buy this release?

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andrewm
I believe that 3-cd/1 dvd set just came out because one of my Japanese distributors has it listed (for $80). The front cover is on their new release page.

hey there...do you know where i can buy this? thanks....dave

Did they REALLY fly?... the Burrito Bros?

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Eleanor Rigby
Note: There is also some extra Altamont footage I have on DVD of the Angels & the crowd with the Jefferson Airplane playing "Other Side Of This Life"...which sounds completely different to the version on the Gimme Shelter movie!!!!

ER

I knew that I was not seeing things that day it was broadcast on cable back in the early 80's. I saw this footage as well only on that one cable broadcast. What I remember even more than the extra footage on the print that I saw that day was a completely different soundtrack mix to all the music. Is this evident on the print on the DVD that you just got? Believe me the mix and the songs sounded different.