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Filip020169
I love it to the maximum-
though I must say, I have serious doubts about the previous 'whereabouts' of this track... I mean, does this really sound like early 70's Rolling Stones, Nellcote basement style?! Same goes for "Pass the Wine", imho- cheeky Jagger!
But hey, I think "Dancing in the Light" is a true gem; and it should be released as a single worldwide... to get some airplay, at least!
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theimposter
Fun song. The lyrics are kinda cute and I like the guitars. Nothing special but it's enjoyable. Something I mentioned before that maybe nobody else agrees with - but to my ears the drums sound very much like Charlie's modern (Voodoo onward) sound, as opposed to the way his drums sounded back then. Just listen to "So Divine" or "PMS", where the drums (at least I think) sound totally different than on here.
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TravelinMan
video: [youtu.be]
I know the Exile reissue says Wyman on bass, but those credits are riddled with mistakes. Are we sure it's Wyman on this one?
So Divine is another that doesn't sound like Wyman to me.
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TravelinMan
video: [youtu.be]
I know the Exile reissue says Wyman on bass, but those credits are riddled with mistakes. Are we sure it's Wyman on this one?
So Divine is another that doesn't sound like Wyman to me.
Light sounds not so much like Keith, who tends to rumble more. It moves a bit too much to be Keith. Yet... it kinda sounds like how Keith plumbs the bass.
What a bland track. So Devine is another yawnfest.
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Mathijs
It is Bill Wyman on his old fretless bass 200%.
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RobberBride
I have no specific info regarding who played bass, but according to the "Stones Raw tapes" a memo prepared by Trevor Churchill for the Klein court thingy, it is Bill. You can see the full line up on one of the three pages printed on page 359 in the Nellcote book. However, as Churchill writes, this is the line up "as far as we know, Mick can probably fill you in on details". I can not see Mick having changed the line up in any other document, and I doubt he cared or remembered when it was included on the Exile deluxe, forty years later.
The Churchill documents also says that the recording dates that are noted are for when the basic track was laid down, and that possible overdubs would have been done later. As we know, Keith loved to "improve" those bass tracks ... so who knows ?
A side note; IMHO the tapes that Churchill compiled in London in 1971, the so called Bermondsey tapes, explains why these types of oddball tracks ended up on the Exile deluxe album. The old tracks/left overs were complied, sent to Nellcote intended for possible inclusion on Exile, some were included but most discarded. When the deluxe project came up in 2010, sa few were included anyway, regardless of era and place of origin.
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I have no specific info regarding who played bass, but according to the "Stones Raw tapes" a memo prepared by Trevor Churchill for the Klein court thingy, it is Bill. You can see the full line up on one of the three pages printed on page 359 in the Nellcote book. However, as Churchill writes, this is the line up "as far as we know, Mick can probably fill you in on details". I can not see Mick having changed the line up in any other document, and I doubt he cared or remembered when it was included on the Exile deluxe, forty years later.
The Churchill documents also says that the recording dates that are noted are for when the basic track was laid down, and that possible overdubs would have been done later. As we know, Keith loved to "improve" those bass tracks ... so who knows ?
A side note; IMHO the tapes that Churchill compiled in London in 1971, the so called Bermondsey tapes, explains why these types of oddball tracks ended up on the Exile deluxe album. The old tracks/left overs were complied, sent to Nellcote intended for possible inclusion on Exile, some were included but most discarded. When the deluxe project came up in 2010, sa few were included anyway, regardless of era and place of origin.
This is great info. What’s the difference between the “Stones Raw” tapes and the Bermondsey tapes?
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RobberBride
I have no specific info regarding who played bass, but according to the "Stones Raw tapes" a memo prepared by Trevor Churchill for the Klein court thingy, it is Bill. You can see the full line up on one of the three pages printed on page 359 in the Nellcote book. However, as Churchill writes, this is the line up "as far as we know, Mick can probably fill you in on details". I can not see Mick having changed the line up in any other document, and I doubt he cared or remembered when it was included on the Exile deluxe, forty years later.
The Churchill documents also says that the recording dates that are noted are for when the basic track was laid down, and that possible overdubs would have been done later. As we know, Keith loved to "improve" those bass tracks ... so who knows ?
A side note; IMHO the tapes that Churchill compiled in London in 1971, the so called Bermondsey tapes, explains why these types of oddball tracks ended up on the Exile deluxe album. The old tracks/left overs were complied, sent to Nellcote intended for possible inclusion on Exile, some were included but most discarded. When the deluxe project came up in 2010, sa few were included anyway, regardless of era and place of origin.
This is great info. What’s the difference between the “Stones Raw” tapes and the Bermondsey tapes?
Sorry about the confusion -
The Stones Raw Tapes is the name of a batch of documents, and not a tape per se.
The documents discuss which tapes are in the hands of the Stones prior to the Klein trial(s), ie which tracks does he own the publishing to and which does he not. Who have paid the session bills and where are the tapes located. As we know today (after the BBC series on each member divulged images from the present-ish archive) the archive filenames are not the same anymore, so its (fun!) dinosaur info.
The Bermondsey tapes are, as you probably are aware of, the masters found in the Bermondsey storage/rehearsal space, which Churchill did mixdowns of at Olympic around March/April 71 and brought down to Nellcote on domestic cassettes. He played them in the grand salon to Mick and Keith. Because they thought some of the titles were interesting, the proper masters were transported down to France, re-recorded or/and worked on in LA. (Sweet Virginia, Good Time/Tumbling, All Down the Line, etc etc)
Hope thats clearer.