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How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: July 7, 2009 12:42

Introduction to How Concert Tours Work

How profitable are concert tours? Very, if the performers are major artists with fans eager to see them. Newcomer Miley Cyrus, for example, brought in $45.3 million from her 70-show Best of Both Worlds concert tour in 2007 and 2008. Tickets sold out in minutes as fans of her "Hannah Montana" TV show vied for the chance to see the teen star perform live during her first music tour [source: MTV News].
But Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones, on stage for four decades, hold the record for most profitable tour. Their worldwide A Bigger Bang tour ran from 2005 into 2007 and grossed $558 million [source: Billboard].


Top Grossing Concert Tours of 2007

Veteran performers continued to dominate the Top 10 list in 2007. Only Josh Grobin and Rascal Flatts started touring after 2000. The average ticket price for the Top 100 concert tours was $61, up 8 percent from $57 a year earlier.

­The Police, $133.2 million
Kenny Chesney, $71.1 million
Justin Timberlake, $70.6 million
Celine Dion, $65.3 million
Van Halen, $56.7 million
Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, $52.3 million
Rod Stewart, $49 million
Genesis, $47.6 million
Josh Groban, $43 million
Rascal Flatts, $41.5 million
[source: Pollstar]


Neither Mick nor Miley is relying on concerts alone for income. Their music tours both followed the release of a new album -- "Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus" for Miley and "A Bigger Bang" for the Rolling Stones -- and both earned more from concert films released after the tours. Disney's 3-D "Best of Both Worlds Concert Tour" film grossed more than $65.3 million before being aired on cable TV, while Martin Scorsese's "Shine a Light" documentary on the Stones' tour grossed $5.3 million [sources: Conde Nast Portfolio, Rolling Stone and Billboard].


What about performers more distant from sudden fame and reigning stardom? How complicated are concert tours to put together and are they worth the effort? What kind of planning is needed, and how do you work with concert promoters or tour promoters, negotiate a touring schedule and hire a tour crew? Keep reading to find out, starting with the initial planning you'll need to do.

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Initial Planning of a Concert Tour

Think your band is ready to start touring, or are you not sure whether a concert tour should be in your immediate future? Planning and performing during a music tour are complicated and time consuming. Probably the first thing you'll want to do is make sure you can answer that question with a strong "Yes!"


.To reach a decision, you'll want to consider factors such as:

Do we have enough material ready to perform on a tour?
Can we handle the rigors of travel and the challenge of playing that material every night as if it's fresh and new?
Do we have a reason to tour now -- like a new CD to promote? Do we have copies of CDs to sell if we are on tour?
Are we getting enough club bookings and a strong enough response from fans to indicate that they will buy tickets to our concerts?
Can we get along well enough with each other to survive a tour together?
What do we want out of a tour -- greater exposure for the band, bigger paychecks for the band members or something else?
Miley Cyrus and the Rolling Stones aside, if you expect to make a lot of money off concert tours, you're likely to be disappointed. By the time the venue, concert promoter and ticket vendor take their cuts, equipment rentals and crew are paid, and transportation and living costs are covered, there may not be as much for the band as you'd expect. That's not even considering sliding CD sales and the move to digital music.

Limited profitability is nothing new for touring bands. Gerald Casale, a founding member of Devo, recalls that band members only earned $12,000 each from the new wave group's Freedom of Choice tour, which grossed $2 million during the group's heyday in 1980 -- and the take would have been even less if T-shirts hadn't sold well. The group began touring again in 2004 [source: Billboard].

If you've decided you're ready to tour, the next step is preliminary planning, probably led by your band's manager. Here are some questions to consider:

In which geographic area and at what specific cities and venues do you want to perform? What is your tentative itinerary?
What specific performing needs do you have in terms of instruments and musical equipment?
What specific stage, sound engineering and lighting needs do you have?
How much equipment will the band bring along, and how much will you need to have ready at the venue?
How many crew members will you need to have on site, and what skills or training do they need?
What's your tentative budget for the tour, including employee pay and equipment costs?
What are your limits in tour length and number of shows?
Once you have considered these basics, you need someone who can connect you with your audience. Perhaps your band has a music agent who handles your bookings. But whether you do or not, you or your agent needs to work through a concert promoter, or tour promoter, to put together a tour. Let's look next at what concert promoters do and how to work with them.

Working with Concert Promoters

You could try to set up your concert tour, but you probably wouldn't get very far. Tour venues work with -- or are even owned by -- concert promoters, also known as tour promoters. You'll usually need a signed contract with a tour promoter to set up a tour.

A tour promoter organizes a live music tour and makes sure it's profitable. That can include presenting, advertising and even financing concerts at arenas, clubs, auditoriums, festivals and other special events. The promoter finds the talent, the venue and on-site labor, and then handles advertising, marketing and possibly even ticket sales for the tour [sources: Berklee College of Music and Full Sail].




The biggest national promoters of music tours are Live Nation and AEG Live. Live Nation has begun signing major performers -- including Madonna, Nickelback, Shakira and Jay-Z -- to multi-year 360 contracts that can cover virtually all of the artist's output. This includes everything from music, concert tours and merchandise to endorsements and broadcast rights [source: Bloomberg].

Don't expect a 360 contract or a contract from a major concert promoter. These companies want well-known stars whose value should hold for the contract length -- which, in Madonna's case, is 10 years. Taking a chance on an up-and-coming band may be far too risky financially [source: The American].


Instead, your band's manager or music agent will sit down with a regional promoter to discuss the terms of a live music tour. Here are some ideas for finding a concert promoter:

Start with who you know. Word-of-mouth references may lead you to a promoter.
Check industry publications like Billboard and Pollstar, the concert industry trade publication, for ads and articles. Pollstar also sells industry directories listing information for booking agencies, concert venues and concert support services.
Check with venues where you'd like to play to see which promoters work with them.
Once you've found possible promoters, have your manager or agent contact them with information about your band, including genre, background, previous club and tour experience and a CD of your music.


If a promoter offers your band work through your manager, the next step is hammering out a contract covering the tour. The standard contract is the American Federation of Musicians' AFM Performance Agreement. Riders can be attached to handle specific tour details. While the contract itself is usually short, covering payment, profit splits, dates and locations, the rider may be 10 pages or more. Here are some details covered in a rider:

Promoter's expenses
Ticket selling policies, including how complimentary tickets will be handled
Headline billing rights for signs and publicity
An equipment breakdown detailing what'll be rented by the promoter vs. provided by the band
A breakdown of local crew that'll need to be hired
Dressing rooms, security, catering and travel
Cancellation policies
[source: Donald S. Passman and Randy Glass]

Price isn't the only important part of a tour arranagement. You also need to agree on a tour schedule. Keep reading to learn more.

Negotiating a Concert Tour Schedule

Once you've worked out a price, split percentage and other concert details with the concert promoter, you still need to agree on a daily work schedule for your band's concert tour.



Take a careful look at the schedule the tour promoter offers for the music tour. You'll want to make sure that:

The tour venues follow a geographically logical way instead of resembling a criss-cross, connect-the-dot pattern of overlapping routes
Enough travel time is built in, allowing for traffic and weather conditions, so that the band has time to set up and do any necessary rehearsing before a concert
Days off are worked into the schedule to give the band and crew time to recuperate after a number of hard days of concerts and travel.
Keep in mind, too, that concert tours involve a lot more than setting up, rehearsing and playing for an audience. A promoter or record label is likely to want the band to also do local promotions and interviews with media, meet with fans and sign autographs. There may be even more demands on band members' time.


How Secure is the Tour Industry?
CD sales are sliding, down 25 percent in 2008 from 2000. That has record labels, pop stars and lesser known bands looking to concert tours to augment income.

But higher gas prices and tighter money may get in the way for both bands and fans. Start-up bands forced to fill up low-mileage vans towing equipment need to make enough at a gig to recoup gas costs. And fans with less disposable cash may be reluctant to fork out money for concert tickets, particularly for big-name artists with seats selling for $75 and more.

Even beyond those economic realities, consider that:

The big-name stars that bring in the most fans are aging. The Rolling Stones and other heritage acts led the Top 10 grossing tours in 2006 and 2007. Out of the 20 acts, only Justin Timberlake and Christine Aguilera had yet to reach their 30th birthdays.
The older stars had a large common fan base, coming from Top 40 radio play and promotions and album sales, to fill concert halls. Today's young music enthusiasts have diverse music interests. They get their music from many different sources like cell phones, social networking sites, iTunes and Limewire and often don't even listen to traditional radio.
[sources: Chicago Tribune and The American]


You'll also want to be open to schedule changes. While the beginning of the tour may be thoroughly mapped out, the rest is likely to be more loosely scheduled. If not enough tickets are sold, one or more of the concert venues may drop out and be replaced with a concert in some other location. And if the tour turns out to be really successful, it may even be extended with additional concerts [source: MusicBizAcademy.com].


Make your requests regarding the schedule, but in the words of Mick Jagger, "You can't always get what you want." Concert promoters are in business to make money, after all, and they want to keep a band working, not taking days off.

With schedule set and contract in hand, you're ready to get on the road again. Right? Well, not quite. You'll need a production manager and tour crew to take care of the logistics and set-up the equipment on the road. Keep reading to find out more.


Hiring a Concert Tour Crew

Even though a concert tour contract probably provides for some local crew at every stop on the tour, you'll want to have your own crew that travels with the band from venue to venue. This tour crew is invaluable because, unlike the local crew, they know the band, its show and its equipment, and they're there every step of the way to make sure the concerts go smoothly.


Here are some crew members and their responsibilities you'll want to have with you on your tour:


Tour manager or road manager: Manages travel arrangements, pays bills and handles problems as they occur while the band is touring.
Production manager: Supervises the technical crew and coordinates their work with that of the venue's local crew. Supervises moving equipment from one venue to the next, as well as setting it up and disassembling it.
Advance person: Arrives at each tour location before the band and crew to help the road manager and make sure advance arrangements have been handled correctly.
Stage manager: Controls performers' movements and crew on and off the stage; gives crew cues for the houselights.
Sound engineer: Operates the front of house console, which controls and mixes the sound the audience hears during a live performance.
Monitor engineer: Operates the monitor console, controlling the sound the band hears during a concert through on-stage or in-ear monitors.
Sound crew: Set up, disassemble and run sound equipment, as directed by the sound and monitor engineers.
Lighting operator: Operates the control console for the show and supervises the lighting crew.
Lighting crew: Sets up, runs and disassembles lighting equipment. May also handle special effects like smoke machines and hoists.
Backline crew: Sets up and manages performers' instruments and equipment.
[sources: Berklee College of Music and John Vasey]

As you hire crew to fill these positions, look for people who are:

Flexible and adaptable. Something can and undoubtedly will go wrong during a concert, and you'll need someone who can deal with the situation calmly and quickly.
Team players who get along with the band and other managers to reduce friction on the road.
Skilled at the jobs they do and very familiar with the equipment so that they can run it effectively in unfamiliar venues.
Committed enough to the band and the tour that they will put up with the inconveniences of being on the road and stick with the tour until the end.
Finally, if you're looking to make it on the concert scene, here's some advice from insiders:

Don't over-play the same clubs, or your ticket sales will start to drop off.
Recognize the difference between a recording session and a live performance and give the audience a show to remember.
Re-invent yourselves and freshen up your act over time, like Madonna and the Rolling Stones, to keep fans coming back year after year.
And a final word of advice: Be sure to explore all the potential revenue streams (such as band merchandise, fan clubs, licensing for TV shows and video games, and more) to add to tour income [source: The American].

[entertainment.howstuffworks.com]





What do you think about it ? Are they some errors ? What could you add that could be dedicated to the Stones only ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Re: How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: July 7, 2009 12:50

There are some things in that that I think the Stones have forgotten about. Like this one for example:

Do we have a reason to tour now -- like a new CD to promote?

Re: How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: harlito1969 ()
Date: July 7, 2009 15:57

Quote
skipstone
There are some things in that that I think the Stones have forgotten about. Like this one for example:

Do we have a reason to tour now -- like a new CD to promote?

They put out a new CD and only 10% of the set list is made up of the new material. A new CD doesn't seem like much of a reason to tour for the Stones.

I think for new acts it might be the case but the new acts are not the big draw.

Re: How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: July 7, 2009 20:14

I know. I was being sarcastic. The Stones don't need a new CD. Or a new album. Or record. Or anything.

Re: How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: boogie69 ()
Date: July 7, 2009 21:37

The Stones don't need a new release or anything to promote as a reason to tour because these days they are nothing more than a corporation posing as a nostalgia act. The only difference between them and other artists on the oldies circuit is that the Stones can do it by themselves without having to be part of a package, and it's on a much larger scale across the board. At this point, they really aren't any different than the package tours that started the oldies circuit in late 60's/early 70's, and which involved the original 50's rockers, like Little Richard an Bill Haley. The Stones are merely an oldies circuit unto themselves, which is only good or bad depending on how you view such things.

Re: How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: July 8, 2009 02:20

That could also go for The Who and even Led Zeppelin, at least, based on that one show and all the clamoring or a tour - nothing new, just PLAY.

Nothing wrong with that aspect - but only that. That's where it ends. Myself - I'd love to have new material. I know The Who released a new record but I never heard one song from it and I certainly didn't buy it. Whatever it was called. I'm sure there are plenty of people in the world who could or do say the same thing about the Stones with A Bigger Bang and the tour - the know nothing of the album, they just new they were coming to play their town.

It's amazing too, if you think about it - with all the hype and mediums and promotion available these past 10 years or so with internet (as well as the stealing of music) and various radio and magazines etc... that is done for new albums...less people are interested in getting the new album. It's become a curse.

Re: How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: July 8, 2009 13:52

Are we getting a strong enough response from fans to indicate that they will buy tickets to our concerts?

Anyone knows what was the stadium 's occupancy rate on the last tour ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Re: How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: July 8, 2009 14:21

Quote
harlito1969

They put out a new CD and only 10% of the set list is made up of the new material. A new CD doesn't seem like much of a reason to tour for the Stones.

I think for new acts it might be the case but the new acts are not the big draw.

Who knows how many of their songs were never performed ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Re: How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: July 8, 2009 20:20

If that is the case, the ticket demand, then they really screwed up for New Orleans in 1994. They came anyway, with dismal - DISMAL - ticket sales. They still played. I guess once you pay the rental of a stadium and get the stage in there you might as well play the gig - because you're losing money regardless. And what few people paid did pay.

I really doubt their shows that were sell outs were totally sold out for Voodoo and Bridges and Licks and Bang.

Re: How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: July 9, 2009 01:49

I do understand the advantage of stadium shows-one show played to 60000 as opposed to 3-4 arena shows BUT I think the high tkts have greater value in arenas. This is just food for thought-are there any fans here like me that dont need bridges and fireworks and huge stage decorations? Just the Stones rockin for a 90 min set(although I do have to agree the big screen does help people in the balcony!). Or do you think a show dominated by music only without the theatrics would sell? Oh well,one can dream!

Re: How Concert Tours Work (Stones content )
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: July 9, 2009 06:52

Well, when I go see The Cult or Drive-By Truckers all you get is the band on stage, maybe a big flag or curtain behind them or something on the drumset and that's about it.

So yeah, I don't need bridges or moving stages or a huge video screen - just motherfucking PLAY.

Still - The Bridge was and remains THE coolest stage trip EVER!



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