THIS ORIGINALLY WAS A REVIEW OF THE BOOTLEG DVD OF THE ZEPPELIN 12/2007 02 ARENA SHOW -

PLEASE GO TO PAGE 3 FOR THE CONTEST - "WAR OF THE ZEPPELINS"

First let me say this is an audience shot and recorded boot DVD for your Flat-Big Screen/Surround Sound system (more so than a computer) - those pro shot tapes must be better protected than the Gold sitting at Ft Knox (is there still Gold in Ft. Knox BTW?). So just a quick run down - the picture is straight on maxed out zoom so you can see all 4 members almost all the time BUT it's not bad, the guy must have his video camera on a mono-pod (that would be after the first couple pretty shaky songs) so it's pretty still all the way through.

Now the sound is above average, not sound board quality of course but nice and clean and almost echo free. The mix is good with Plant's voice coming through loud and clear, same with Jimmy's guitars. This could easily be transfered over to a CD-R (or i-pod) and sound great in the car or subway/tube/metro ride. [www.amazon.com] had it for $34 or $39 and I think it's worth getting since I doubt the official version will EVER come out. I must say the band was VERY well rehearsed, more obvious here than the YouTube clips. What a shame Plant's not willing to tour, this isn't the 1975 Led Zeppelin but man are they still great live !!! Only complaint I have is there's nothing played from IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR (their last and one of there weakest albums) IN THE EVENING would have been a nice treat. OH well, maybe sometime down the road in a parallel galaxy...

Here's the set list (entire show - DVD and actual concert). There's no exact date on the DVD but I believe this is the one year anniversary - 12/10/2007 was it? Leave a comment, question, or statement of Zeppelin love or hate please....


INTRO - 70's Florida TV piece on the band's arrival at the airport - (clever)
GOOD TIMES, BAD TIMES
RAMBLE ON
BLACK DOG
IN MY TIME OF DYING
FOR YOUR LIFE* (first live performance ever)
TRAMPLED UNDER FOOT
NOBODY'S FAULT BUT MINE
NO QUARTER
SINCE I'VE BEEN LOVING YOU
DAZED AND CONFUSED
STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN
THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME
MISTY MOUNTAIN HOP
KASHMIR
WHOLE LOTTA LOVE
ROCK AND ROLL



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008-12-11 18:23 by HelterSkelter.

Sounds like the same DVD I have.

Just got mine today BluzDude, how do you like it?

I think it is a shame that Plant has developed a crush on Alison Krauss....

He doesn't owe anybody anything but I looked forward to them touring..bythe time they get around to it they will be in wheelchairs and Plant's voice will have lost even more range..

I enjoyed it, a little shakey at start but over all, not bad. I've only watched it on computer so far(with my studio monitor headphones), I hope to get a new, larger LCD TV soon and hook up my sound system, then I will watch it again along with my favorite RS and AC/DC vids
Sometimes a little EQ can help enhance these Boot recordings


(2000 posts, wow)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-12-09 04:26 by BluzDude.

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I think it is a shame that Plant has developed a crush on Alison Krauss....

He doesn't owe anybody anything but I looked forward to them touring..bythe time they get around to it they will be in wheelchairs and Plant's voice will have lost even more range..

What is going on with Plant/Krauss - I get the feeling there is a "Krauss Crush" floating around somewhere between those 2.... after all, she is "very easy on the eyes".... and then has a voice like an angel, I bet Robert flushed his viagra down the toilet...

(2000 posts, wow)

Congrats Feltpen.

Helter,nice review and all. But the friggin concert was a year ago. EVERYBODY HAS THIS.

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

Thanks Helter,
I don't have it! So great to read your review. I only have a boot audio and it is ok. More a novelty to hear them after so long. And I think they kicked it out of the park. Really fantastic, and I don't really think they changed the keys of the songs, Plant's voice sounded great!

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I think it is a shame that Plant has developed a crush on Alison Krauss....

He doesn't owe anybody anything but I looked forward to them touring..bythe time they get around to it they will be in wheelchairs and Plant's voice will have lost even more range..

What is going on with Plant/Krauss - I get the feeling there is a "Krauss Crush" floating around somewhere between those 2.... after all, she is "very easy on the eyes".... and then has a voice like an angel, I bet Robert flushed his viagra down the toilet...

A close friend went to the Plant/Krauss show a few months back.. he had a front row center ticket...he's a very observant guy and he told me the way Plant looked at her he has no doubt (not to mention the body language).. I've also seen pictures of them and they look in love.... Good for Plant.. I just think that following the O2 show a Zeppelin reunion would have been a great gift to the world...

They didn't change the keys, whitem8, but they did tune down either a tone, or a semi-tone, don't recall which and I'd have to pull it out and listen with a guitar. Not that unusual-Ian Hunter, for one, has been doing that live for a number of years.

Gotchya andrewm...

So what is this fascination with Kraus and Plant being lovers? Isn't Plant married?
I saw them in Detroit in July and it was stunning. Really, I would love to see Zep fly again, but I can respect Plant not wanting to revisit the past and get into something new...

I read in Rolling Stone an article and Jones said they would never call it Zep without Plant. They are planning a new album with a yet announced singer and he said they would tour, but didn't say what they would call themselves.

It doesn't excite me much though without Plant....

A new Coverdale-Page record ? Led Zeppendale ?

A Page-Jones-Bonham-XXX tour ?


Led Blimp
Led Baloon
Led Airship
Or
New Zeppelin
Kevlar Zeppelin
21st Century Zeppelin

Just my imagination...

[doctorstonesblog.blogspot.com]

re: HELTER - "Only complaint I have is there's nothing played from IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR (their last and one of there weakest albums) IN THE EVENING would have been a nice treat."
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It's possible that they deliberately avoided songs In Through The Out Door
because it was Bonham's final album etc... Might never play anything
from that album..out of respect or superstition. (?)


IORR............but I like it!

you have to to admire Plant'#s stance. i'd love to see Zeppelin. but that bloke has moved on. he doesn't want to live in the past

i'd be more excited about a follow up to the mighty - Mighty Rearranger myself

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re: HELTER - "Only complaint I have is there's nothing played from IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR (their last and one of there weakest albums) IN THE EVENING would have been a nice treat."
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It's possible that they deliberately avoided songs In Through The Out Door
because it was Bonham's final album etc... Might never play anything
from that album..out of respect or superstition. (?)

Interesting theory SNC. It is true that those last couple years were not the best for the band. I guess Page was pretty out of it during the last album (I suppose that's why it's such a keyboard heavy Plant/Jones album) and 1979's Knebworth Shows seem to have been the last hooray as the short 1980 European Tour was so VERY low key. I know that at some point IN THE EVENING/HOT DOG/ALL MY LOVE were played live but that's it... FOOL IN THE RAIN (which can be found on YouTube live with Plant and Pearl Jam) and I'M GONNA CRAWL were 2 other good ones that deserved a try out live... if only BONHAM had held back a bit on the drinking that day things would have been MUCH different, OH WELL, what can you do?....it's all so fragile....

This must the same Third Eye DVD that came out not long after the concert. Is there anything different? And how come Amazon.com can get away with selling it and not get their ass busted?

Always more questions than answers!

About Bonzo´s drinking habits. I´m reading a rather comprehensive biography about him and according to his close friends and relatives he was a heavy drinker already at the age of fifteen, and the drinking just escalated through the years with Zeppelin. Sadly, I think he was aware of the risks, but he wasn´t able to cut the booze.

Plant knows what the Zep fans want but he doesnt care(obviously) or maybe hes just too old to rock. The Krause crap hes doing is for "the patron of the arts" crowd and supper clubs plus all the other musicians can sit around and moon over him.

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re: HELTER - "Only complaint I have is there's nothing played from IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR (their last and one of there weakest albums) IN THE EVENING would have been a nice treat."
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It's possible that they deliberately avoided songs In Through The Out Door
because it was Bonham's final album etc... Might never play anything
from that album..out of respect or superstition. (?)

Interesting theory SNC. It is true that those last couple years were not the best for the band. I guess Page was pretty out of it during the last album (I suppose that's why it's such a keyboard heavy Plant/Jones album) and 1979's Knebworth Shows seem to have been the last hooray as the short 1980 European Tour was so VERY low key. I know that at some point IN THE EVENING/HOT DOG/ALL MY LOVE were played live but that's it... FOOL IN THE RAIN (which can be found on YouTube live with Plant and Pearl Jam) and I'M GONNA CRAWL were 2 other good ones that deserved a try out live... if only BONHAM had held back a bit on the drinking that day things would have been MUCH different, OH WELL, what can you do?....it's all so fragile....

What,no CAROUSELAMBRA

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

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re: HELTER - "Only complaint I have is there's nothing played from IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR (their last and one of there weakest albums) IN THE EVENING would have been a nice treat."
*************************

It's possible that they deliberately avoided songs In Through The Out Door
because it was Bonham's final album etc... Might never play anything
from that album..out of respect or superstition. (?)

Interesting theory SNC. It is true that those last couple years were not the best for the band. I guess Page was pretty out of it during the last album (I suppose that's why it's such a keyboard heavy Plant/Jones album) and 1979's Knebworth Shows seem to have been the last hooray as the short 1980 European Tour was so VERY low key. I know that at some point IN THE EVENING/HOT DOG/ALL MY LOVE were played live but that's it... FOOL IN THE RAIN (which can be found on YouTube live with Plant and Pearl Jam) and I'M GONNA CRAWL were 2 other good ones that deserved a try out live... if only BONHAM had held back a bit on the drinking that day things would have been MUCH different, OH WELL, what can you do?....it's all so fragile....

Was Fool In the Rain (with Pearl Jam) the only ITTOD song that's been played live
since Bonham's death? Fill me in......I wasn't following it closely at the time.
Did Bonham die in the middle of the US tour? Before it started? Had they
already been touring Europe to support ITTOD? I just remember the day
Bonzo died...and that all my classmates had to get refunds for their concert tix.

Did they play any of ITTOD on the Page/Plat Tours?

I have not seen the 02 bootleg...holding out for an official release.


IORR............but I like it!



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Plant knows what the Zep fans want but he doesnt care(obviously) or maybe hes just too old to rock. The Krause crap hes doing is for "the patron of the arts" crowd and supper clubs plus all the other musicians can sit around and moon over him.

Good for him. Its called knowing when to quit and moving on. Its not his problem that sections of his fanbase cant do the same. He shouldnt have to be a slave to anyone.

Better than trying to recapture old glories and making an arse of yourself just because some people feel the need to live in the past.

Reunions of bands who split decades ago are for the most part pretty pathetic and devoid of any artistic merit or logic. Its to his credit that he's able to see past the dollar signs and realise that.



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Looking past the dollar signs?? Well,maybe but do you think he hasnt been well compensated for "selling out"? CMT?? Give me a friggin break. But in the good natured tradition of IORR, I respect your opinion.Gaz. And I APOLOGIZE for any insult I may have caused you! HEE HEE!!

I didnt mention anything about selling out, so I'm not sure what the point is.

Going off in a different and less financially lucrative musical direction than the far easier one that made you rich and famous is a funny way of selling out, I would have thought.

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I didnt mention anything about selling out, so I'm not sure what the point is.

Going off in a different and less financially lucrative musical direction than the far easier one that made you rich and famous is a funny way of selling out, I would have thought.

I'm sure he isn't turning down the money from any of the rereleased Zep stuff either. His morals apparantly go only so far.

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

I just meant it was a very easy way to make some decent bucks without alot of effort(at least what I saw didnt take much effort). But mainly I was just yankin' yer chain(HA HA) Gaz,ole buddy ole pal!!

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I didnt mention anything about selling out, so I'm not sure what the point is.

Going off in a different and less financially lucrative musical direction than the far easier one that made you rich and famous is a funny way of selling out, I would have thought.

I'm sure he isn't turning down the money from any of the rereleased Zep stuff either. His morals apparantly go only so far.

Nor should he turn it down. Its an entirely different thing, though. Its from music that he's happy to profit from as it represents an era where he produced work that he was proud of and music he presumably believed in. Thats an entirely different kettle of fish from profiting from a musical direction in 2009 that he doesnt want to pursue anymore or that he feels he can no longer do justice to.

If the guy doesnt feel comfortable at the age of 60 with running around a stage trying to recreate 1973 then he shouldnt feel under obligation to anyone to do so.

I want to buy a big, wide screen. But that is still just a dream here at the factory. Wait and see...

For now, especially during tough financial times, we will make do with our new and not-so-new computers, along with our olden 32" Sony Trinitron tv in the living room. Eight years ago, that 32" was considered big and state of the art.

That's DVDs, not broadcast anyhow you're not really talking about technology... But aside from that and the current fiscal crisis, I plan to wait until at least next March anyway. After then, the USA will have completely ended over the air NTSC tv transmission.



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Gotchya andrewm...

So what is this fascination with Kraus and Plant being lovers? Isn't Plant married?

Plant has been divorced since 1982. Not that being married ever slowed down his love life back in the day. I just think its funny how Plant always ends up dating any female vocalist he works with. He dated Alannah Myles when she opened for him in 1990, he dated Tori Amos after they recorded a Zeppelin cover in the early 1990s, and he dated the Indian chick who toured with him and Jimmy Page in 1994-95. I'm guessing he's dating Krauss as well. That's a lot of lemon squeezin' going on throughout the years.

I don't see why assume Plant and zeppelin couldn't put together a credible performance.. they were pretty good at O2 which is why people are excited about seeing them.. It would be different if they had stunk up the joint but if that was their performance after not playing together for decades one can only imagine how good they would be after a few shows..

No one is asking Plant to do what he doens't want to do but the idea that he is doing something that is more valid or has more value as art is ridiculous..if you've heard the plant/krauss album its a snoozathon.... So if he doesn't want to perform as zep at least do something else worthwhile..but certainly lets not use the pretense that his tour with Krauss is something worthwhile..

having said that i hope its clear that plant can do whatever he wants..



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I don't see why assume Plant and zeppelin couldn't put together a credible performance.. they were pretty good at O2 which is why people are excited about seeing them.. It would be different if they had stunk up the joint but if that was their performance after not playing together for decades one can only imagine how good they would be after a few shows..

No one is asking Plant to do what he doens't want to do but the idea that he is doing something that is more valid or has more value as art is ridiculous..if you've heard the plant/krauss album its a snoozathon.... So if he doesn't want to perform as zep at least do something else worthwhile..but certainly lets not use the pretense that his tour with Krauss is something worthwhile..

having said that i hope its clear that plant can do whatever he wants..

I actually like the Plant/Krause stuff and so do a lot of other people. To each is own, I suppose.