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O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: whiskey ()
Date: August 11, 2008 10:49

DADAs record shop in Perth West Australia, not many left like this, great for vinyl, new and used.
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Now downstairs for CDs etc



Robs the man, looks after me real well. The amount of vinyl on show is only a small part, must be literaly thousands more you cant see in the photos.wish I owned the shop.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008-08-11 11:05 by whiskey.

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: whiskey ()
Date: August 11, 2008 10:51

Dont know why the other pics didnt show up

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: August 11, 2008 10:51

78 Records ....are they still there whiskey...
Picked up some good pre-war stuff there way way back some years ago



ROCKMAN

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: whiskey ()
Date: August 11, 2008 10:52

Yeah still there Rockman

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: August 11, 2008 10:53

Go into edit post and chuck a [ in front of first IMG



ROCKMAN

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: whiskey ()
Date: August 11, 2008 11:03

Thanks for the tip Rockman, there was more but thats enough, take up too much room

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: Amused ()
Date: August 11, 2008 12:18

That's paradise winking smiley

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: stone-relics ()
Date: August 11, 2008 14:22

When I moved to the DC area back in the 80s, their were lots of used shops. Now down to only one...Thanks R&T Exchange. A thing of the past. Maybe they will make a comeback, but with so much available on line, with only postage and listing and selling fees for overhead, it really hurts the second hand shop market. Enjoy these shops while you can!

JR



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Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: August 11, 2008 14:33

"78 Records ....are they still there whiskey...
Picked up some good pre-war stuff there way way back some years ago"

78's are great fun. I buy tonnes (literally!) and you always find some crazy jems in there

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: August 11, 2008 14:38

That's how a record shop should look. It beats the hell out of downloading stuff from the internet.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: August 11, 2008 14:40

Amen Flash. You can't beat buying vinyl compared to downloading....

Sound quality or product

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: NickB ()
Date: August 11, 2008 15:20

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"78 Records ....are they still there whiskey...
Picked up some good pre-war stuff there way way back some years ago"

78's are great fun. I buy tonnes (literally!) and you always find some crazy jems in there

You have a grammophone record player that plays 78's? How cool is that? Do you plug it into your radiogrammewinking smiley

NickB

You can't always get what you want.....

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Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: stein ()
Date: August 11, 2008 15:27

That looks like vinyl heaven.

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: August 11, 2008 15:31

"You have a grammophone record player that plays 78's? How cool is that? Do you plug it into your radiogramme

NickB

You can't always get what you want....."

The radiogram plays 78's! You can pile a load up and it plays them one after the other. Great fun. The old mono speaker bangs it out.

But then I do also own 16 gramophones ranging from 1908 - late 50's so plenty of choice.

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: August 11, 2008 15:41

The most amusing thing about old 78s is that the correct playback speed can be anything between about 75 and 85 RPM.
It's pretty amazing how good some of these very simply made recordings can sound via suitable playback equipment.

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: August 11, 2008 15:48

On the gramophones you can adjust the speed so the record plays how YOU want it to hear! Superb stuff.

You also control the volume by opening or closing the door! Thats it. But if you have a HMV 102 it don't have bang out that rock n roll!

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: August 11, 2008 15:56

Bamboo needles are the height of that technology...they sound better and don't kill the records like the later copper needles did.
There are a few specialist cartidges avialable for modern turntables which do a pretty good job with old 78s too.

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: August 11, 2008 16:04

"Whenever two surfaces rub together infinitesimal wear to one or both surfaces occurs. Gramophone Needles are made out of a soft steel designed to be worn away during playing in preference to damaging the 78. With the surplus steel worn away and the needle re-profiled, minute permanent damage to the record starts to occur. After a couple of record sides with the same needle you will notice obvious sound quality deterioration. Change it for a new one and the sound will be imperceptibly back to normal. Don't get paranoid about record wear, you won't notice it initially, but when you play a favorite record many times and don't change needles, it will suddenly strike you that it does not sound as good as when you first obtained it. Our forefathers could just pop out and buy another copy of the record, we can't.
You do get used to frequently changing Needles, but practically on less important records I sometimes play a maximum of two record sides with one needle.
A little known fact is that the material used to make early 78's was nearly 75% "Filler"; this "Filler" was composed of a mixture of powdered limestone and slate; hence the resilience of the 78 to the soft steel of needles.
Another point is "Are you 101% sure that the Needles you obtained with your Gramophone have not been used and just put back in the Tin?". If in any doubt, think about getting new needles. "

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: NickB ()
Date: August 11, 2008 16:31

i didn't realise they used bamboo. Surely Ivory would have been a better choice. Weren't the records made of shellac?

NickB

You can't always get what you want.....

www.myspace.com/thesonkings

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: August 11, 2008 16:35

Ivory would be to tough and expensive. The needles need to give. You simply have to change the steel needles every turn or so. You get three weights or volumes, loud, mid-tone and quiet that again you can adjust to suit the record or the environment where your playing the record.
The older the record the quieter they tend to be. The latter 50's 78's can be deafening on a loud needle with no volume control.

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: August 11, 2008 16:37



HMV 102. Expensive but great fun

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: NickB ()
Date: August 11, 2008 16:37

The records had differing voulume levels? How was that managed in the manufacturing process?

NickB

You can't always get what you want.....

www.myspace.com/thesonkings

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: August 11, 2008 16:45

A record made in 1920 is far more crude in its recording process than one made in 1957. The weight of the vinyl is also alot heavier.

The whole process is funny really. A spring is wound to rotate the record that is also controlled by a smaller spring to balance the speed.

Thats it!

You stop the record using a basic brake. As I said before the records volume is dependent on the manufacture of the record, the needle you use and the type of soundbox (holds the needle) and length of sound arm used.

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: whiskey ()
Date: August 12, 2008 04:07

Nice info ablett, I have a host of 78s that I have collected and had passed down to me from Dad plus some cylinders and player. From 1919 Edison needle cuts to the last of 78s flexible. Dad was a very proficient banjo player hence a lot of banjo records from the past. When I play those its like being in the room with the old man, raw hard jazz or bluegrass, no fancy mixing or acoustics, just loud soul. Love those 78s. I have a ?, I believe some early Stones were on 78s from India, can you verify, thanks.

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: August 12, 2008 11:10

I've not heard of any stones on 78's? But it could be possible from India?

Good to hear you enjoy the 78's. The edison Phonographs are worth quite abit.

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: Mack Jigger ()
Date: August 12, 2008 13:30

You're right, there aren't many 78's from the Stones. Interesting to find out more about that!

This is a 78 from Mexico. Satisfaction/The Under Assistent West Coast Promo Man on London.




Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: whiskey ()
Date: August 12, 2008 18:07

Hey Mack Jigger, is it for sale

Re: O/T How is this, My kind of record shop
Posted by: stone-relics ()
Date: August 12, 2008 19:33

It was for sale...sold to a collector down under, I think.

JR



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