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It should be noted that Mick Taylor was very much influenced by Claptons playing.
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straycatblues73
and they had mick taylor - a superb choice , because two clowns in a band is enough , anyway
speaking of another player, BB and LiB are great albums but what if keith had another guitar player to bounce ideas of and to work with then......
Keith a clown in 1969!? Don't think so...
Stick MT style of playing in to Beggars and you ruin a perfect record.
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kleermaker
And in 1973 it was almost Mick Taylor and the Rolling Stones. His playing during that tour definitely made him one of the three core members.
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Amsterdamned
True.And Claptons thoughts a about Taylor: "He is frightening."
Wish Clapton had done something with it....
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Amsterdamned
True.And Claptons thoughts a about Taylor: "He is frightening."
Wish Clapton had done something with it....
He'd already done something by being the key part of one of the best british blues albums ever recorded, helping to create a string of classic albums with Cream as well as being very influential to a whole number of players including Taylor.
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Well, HM, your reputation as anti Taylor doesn't need any accent from my side, but to me you lack any convincing musical argument. You only utter some fuzzwords that are always the same ones. Of course you're entitled to any opinion on Taylor, but I have the strong impression that your opinion on Taylor has nothing to do with an opinion at all but with pure antipathy. Mostly to defend your champion Keith.
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Here I strongly disagree. I don't hear any influence of EC on his playing. Maybe you two mix up the words influence and inspiration, though the inspiration wasn't a musical one.
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kleermaker
Here I strongly disagree. I don't hear any influence of EC on his playing. Maybe you two mix up the words influence and inspiration, though the inspiration wasn't a musical one.
Taylor has openly admitted he was very influenced by Clapton. Understandably it's more obvious during his Mayall period, but of course he wasn't simply a clone and added in other influences etc.
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Here I strongly disagree. I don't hear any influence of EC on his playing. Maybe you two mix up the words influence and inspiration, though the inspiration wasn't a musical one.
Taylor has openly admitted he was very influenced by Clapton. Understandably it's more obvious during his Mayall period, but of course he wasn't simply a clone and added in other influences etc.
Even Taylor is sometimes wrong. Or he didn't express himself properly.
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kleermaker
Well, HM, your reputation as anti Taylor doesn't need any accent from my side, but to me you lack any convincing musical argument. You only utter some fuzzwords that are always the same ones. Of course you're entitled to any opinion on Taylor, but I have the strong impression that your opinion on Taylor has nothing to do with an opinion at all but with pure antipathy. Mostly to defend your champion Keith.
The fact you´re not convinced doesn´t mean at all a lack of any convincing musical
argument.
It´s just the usual way you´re dealing with a different opinion,or a lack of reading
abilities.
Usually your phrase machine rotates with the same segments in endless loops,this time you failed
to include Amadeus and the meaning of him in Dutch history while philosophing
about the Greeks ...
You should pay more attention,kleermaker.
Come on now,you can do much better !
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Even Taylor is sometimes wrong. Or he didn't express himself properly.
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kleermaker
Here I strongly disagree. I don't hear any influence of EC on his playing. Maybe you two mix up the words influence and inspiration, though the inspiration wasn't a musical one.
Taylor has openly admitted he was very influenced by Clapton. Understandably it's more obvious during his Mayall period, but of course he wasn't simply a clone and added in other influences etc.
Even Taylor is sometimes wrong. Or he didn't express himself properly.
A Taylor is never wrong !
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kleermaker
Well, HM, your reputation as anti Taylor doesn't need any accent from my side, but to me you lack any convincing musical argument. You only utter some fuzzwords that are always the same ones. Of course you're entitled to any opinion on Taylor, but I have the strong impression that your opinion on Taylor has nothing to do with an opinion at all but with pure antipathy. Mostly to defend your champion Keith.
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kleermaker
Even Taylor is sometimes wrong. Or he didn't express himself properly.
Mick learnt claptons guitar parts from the beano album note for note.
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kleermaker
Well, HM, your reputation as anti Taylor doesn't need any accent from my side, but to me you lack any convincing musical argument. You only utter some fuzzwords that are always the same ones. Of course you're entitled to any opinion on Taylor, but I have the strong impression that your opinion on Taylor has nothing to do with an opinion at all but with pure antipathy. Mostly to defend your champion Keith.
Well, I'm not anti-Taylor -- I think he was a great (and sometimes fantastic) guitarist. I've come to expect the Taylor fans to to go on about how Taylor had the best skills of the "other" guitarists in the band and to complain about how Ronnie doesn't have "the vibrato."
But, it's quite another thing to suggest that Taylor rises to the level of Keith. Just look at the entire body of work and be serious....please.
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Well, HM, your reputation as anti Taylor doesn't need any accent from my side, but to me you lack any convincing musical argument. You only utter some fuzzwords that are always the same ones. Of course you're entitled to any opinion on Taylor, but I have the strong impression that your opinion on Taylor has nothing to do with an opinion at all but with pure antipathy. Mostly to defend your champion Keith.
The fact you´re not convinced doesn´t mean at all a lack of any convincing musical
argument.
It´s just the usual way you´re dealing with a different opinion,or a lack of reading
abilities.
Usually your phrase machine rotates with the same segments in endless loops,this time you failed
to include Amadeus and the meaning of him in Dutch history while philosophing
about the Greeks ...
You should pay more attention,kleermaker.
Come on now,you can do much better !
It's obvious that I did hurt your feelings some time ago. Now I remember I said that I wouldn't reply to you any longer. Well, that's still bothering you. But relax, the (goats head) soup isn't eaten that hot as it has been served, as a good Dutch saying says (I believe we got that one from the Greeks, as so many things).
But more important: I said that HM lacks any convincing musical argument this time in general and not specifically as for me.
Anyway, you can learn something from me yet. Profit by it!
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kleermaker
Well, HM, your reputation as anti Taylor doesn't need any accent from my side, but to me you lack any convincing musical argument. You only utter some fuzzwords that are always the same ones. Of course you're entitled to any opinion on Taylor, but I have the strong impression that your opinion on Taylor has nothing to do with an opinion at all but with pure antipathy. Mostly to defend your champion Keith.
The fact you´re not convinced doesn´t mean at all a lack of any convincing musical
argument.
It´s just the usual way you´re dealing with a different opinion,or a lack of reading
abilities.
Usually your phrase machine rotates with the same segments in endless loops,this time you failed
to include Amadeus and the meaning of him in Dutch history while philosophing
about the Greeks ...
You should pay more attention,kleermaker.
Come on now,you can do much better !
It's obvious that I did hurt your feelings some time ago. Now I remember I said that I wouldn't reply to you any longer. Well, that's still bothering you. But relax, the (goats head) soup isn't eaten that hot as it has been served, as a good Dutch saying says (I believe we got that one from the Greeks, as so many things).
But more important: I said that HM lacks any convincing musical argument this time in general and not specifically as for me.
Anyway, you can learn something from me yet. Profit by it!
At least you detected a certain kind and sense of humour...,
but please,neither you hurt my feelings some time ago nor you will now or in the future.
You will understand that your teaching attitude isn´t really something anyone´s
asking for...but thank you very kindly for the offer.
Kennst du übrigens die deutsche Redensart :
"Wenn der Hund nich´geschissen hätt´...."
Doubt it´s greek based but you never know...anyway,good to see you don´t
run in the basement for a laugh,´til we meet again,
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kleermaker
That may have been the case, but by influence I mean that you still can hear EC's influence/style in his playing as a maturing and mature guitarist.
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As a guitarist he surpassed Keith. But only as a guitarist.
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kleermaker
Well, HM, your reputation as anti Taylor doesn't need any accent from my side, but to me you lack any convincing musical argument. You only utter some fuzzwords that are always the same ones. Of course you're entitled to any opinion on Taylor, but I have the strong impression that your opinion on Taylor has nothing to do with an opinion at all but with pure antipathy. Mostly to defend your champion Keith.
Well, I'm not anti-Taylor -- I think he was a great (and sometimes fantastic) guitarist. I've come to expect the Taylor fans to to go on about how Taylor had the best skills of the "other" guitarists in the band and to complain about how Ronnie doesn't have "the vibrato."
But, it's quite another thing to suggest that Taylor rises to the level of Keith. Just look at the entire body of work and be serious....please.
As a guitarist he surpassed Keith. But only as a guitarist.
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kleermaker
That may have been the case, but by influence I mean that you still can hear EC's influence/style in his playing as a maturing and mature guitarist.
Ah, moving the goal posts now.
Clapton like licks and tones can be heard throughout Micks time with bluesbreakers and in to stones.
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Amsterdamned
True.And Claptons thoughts a about Taylor: "He is frightening."
Wish Clapton had done something with it....
He'd already done something by being the key part of one of the best british blues albums ever recorded, helping to create a string of classic albums with Cream as well as being very influential to a whole number of players including Taylor.
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kleermaker
I have a John Mayall album (titled Laurel Canyon, or something like that) with Taylor on guitar. But he sounds totally different from Clapton on that album. And if he sounded even a bit like our friend Eric, how could it then be possible that Amsterdamned, who doesn't like Eric's playing at all, likes Taylor's playing so much? And A. is a profi, otherwise than I, the amateur.
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kleermaker
I have a John Mayall album (titled Laurel Canyon, or something like that) with Taylor on guitar. But he sounds totally different from Clapton on that album. And if he sounded even a bit like our friend Eric, how could it then be possible that Amsterdamned, who doesn't like Eric's playing at all, likes Taylor's playing so much? And A. is a profi, otherwise than I, the amateur.
Mick himself has acknowledged the influence and I think he knows more about it than you do. Amsterdamned has acknowledged the influence, as for why he doesn't like clapton, well he's kind of answered that above.
The influence is there in some of the phrases, the tones and the guitar, amp, effect choice.
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kleermaker
I have a John Mayall album (titled Laurel Canyon, or something like that) with Taylor on guitar. But he sounds totally different from Clapton on that album. And if he sounded even a bit like our friend Eric, how could it then be possible that Amsterdamned, who doesn't like Eric's playing at all, likes Taylor's playing so much? And A. is a profi, otherwise than I, the amateur.
Mick himself has acknowledged the influence and I think he knows more about it than you do. Amsterdamned has acknowledged the influence, as for why he doesn't like clapton, well he's kind of answered that above.
The influence is there in some of the phrases, the tones and the guitar, amp, effect choice.
Well, maybe I'm a total fool, but I don't hear it in his phrases (just not in his phrases, Taylor's breathing is totally diffent from EC's 'breathing'!). The tones? Too vague. Anyway, Clapton is not god and Amsterdamned isn't either (although, almost. They aren't even the pope.