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another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 18, 2007 20:38

sorry to be picking the fine brains of our glamourous & gallant UK cohorts with another language question,
but i need to make sure for a piece of editing i'm doing:
when a building consists of a ground floor, 1st floor and 2nd floor (which in the US would be called the 1st 2nd & 3rd floors),
in UK English do you call that a three-storey building? LoFL: that sounds pretty stupid, sorry!
but it makes my US-educated brain itch that a three-storey building has no third floor.

the question is actually on topic because the building in question happens to be in Edith Grove.
so ... Keith, Mick and Brian lived on the first floor (which Americans would call the second floor)
and there was one floor above them so ... LoFL: is that known in the UK as a three-storey building??
and if so, doesn't that make your brains feel funny? i know i know: you enjoy to feel funny. :E



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-11-18 22:56 by with sssoul.

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: November 18, 2007 20:46

sssssssoul... I think I know...

is it a
"house"

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: November 18, 2007 20:47

what about buildings in the UK that have more than thirteen floors?
Do they skip #13 out of superstition?

Now this really is racking my brains!


Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: November 18, 2007 20:50

I always wondered if they have the 4th of July
in countries other than the USA...
and if not, then what is between
July 3rd and July 5th?

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: paulywaul ()
Date: November 18, 2007 20:51

with sssoul Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> sorry to be picking the fine brains of our
> glamourous & gallant UK cohorts with another
> language question,
> but i need to make sure for a piece of editing i'm
> doing:
> when a building consists of a ground floor, 1st
> floor and 2nd floor, (which in the US would be
> called the 1st 2nd & 3rd floors)
> do you call that a three-storey building? LoFL:
> that sounds pretty stupid, sorry!
> but it makes my US-educated brain itch that a
> three-storey building has no third floor.
>
> the question is actually on topic because the
> building in question happens to be in Edith Grove.
>
> so ... Keith, Mick and Brian lived on the first
> floor (which Americans would call the second
> floor)
> and there was one floor above them so ... LoFL: is
> that known in the UK as a three-storey building??
>
> and if so, doesn't that make your brains feel
> funny? i know i know: you enjoy to feel funny. :E

The answer to your question is YES ... certainly in the UK a building described as having three floors or storeys would have a ground, 1st & 2nd floor.

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: November 18, 2007 20:52

Yeah, Schillid. I think everyone has a July 4th.
Just most people don't use it for an excuse
to get drunk and blow things up!


Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: November 18, 2007 20:56

I live in an apartment on the ninety ninth floor of my block...

funny question you had.

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 18, 2007 20:58

>> The answer to your question is YES ... certainly in the UK
a building described as having three floors or storeys would have a ground, 1st & 2nd floor. <<

thank you my dear gallant & glamourous Paul - that's what i thought,
but it sounded so peculiar for a minute there! (does it make your brains feel funny?)

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: November 18, 2007 21:00

Well, I just found out why the lift at my hotel
in Bayswater kept bringing me to the wrong floor!


Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: November 18, 2007 21:07

Ground floor would be (about) level with the street and most multi storey sky scrapers here have a 13th floor, but that depends on the design of the building.

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 18, 2007 21:22

smile: thank you HM - i know how the floors are counted (we do it that way in Poland too)
but calling a building with nothing above the second floor a three-storey building
sounded funny to me for a minute. just for a minute, though. :E

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: November 18, 2007 21:30

with sssoul Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> smile: thank you HM - i know how the floors are
> counted (we do it that way in Poland too)
> but calling a building with nothing above the
> second floor a three-storey building
> sounded funny to me for a minute. just for a
> minute, though. :E

I have this image of some American tourists or something up on a roof going 'where's the god damn 3rd floor!?!?!' :-()

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: November 18, 2007 21:40

I lived in an apartment in a "brownstone" in Brooklyn for a while...
There, the floor at street level was the "garden" level apartment, while one flight up was the 1st floor, then 2nd and 3rd. (Below the garden level was the basement.)

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: November 18, 2007 21:42

Edith Grove Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Yeah, Schillid. I think everyone has a July 4th.
> Just most people don't use it for an excuse
> to get drunk and blow things up!


Hey... I resemble that remark!

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: November 18, 2007 22:47

with sssoul Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> when a building consists of a ground floor, 1st
> floor and 2nd floor, (which in the US would be
> called the 1st 2nd & 3rd floors)
> do you call that a three-storey building? LoFL:
> that sounds pretty stupid, sorry!
> but it makes my US-educated brain itch that a
> three-storey building has no third floor.
>

Since we have a subject about country traditions, I remember when I was in Sweden in 1983 that the telephones had 0 before 1. Is it still the same way? I remember asking someone why they did that and they replied,"Well zero is a lower number than one, right?"

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: November 18, 2007 23:13

This one is a universal problem... I think. Ever noticed that the arrangement of the numbers 1 to 9 are different on telephones versus calculators?

On telephones it's

1|2|3
4|5|6
7|8|9
*|0|#

but on calculators, it's

7|8|9
4|5|6
1|2|3
_|0|_

How dumb is that? It's an annoyance... and I've seen it slow people down (like cashiers, etc).

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: November 18, 2007 23:23

schillid Wrote:
It's an annoyance... and I've
> seen it slow people down (like cashiers, etc).

You really want to screw up cashier?

Give them the extra penny when your bill is $4.26.
See how much change you get in return!


Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: November 18, 2007 23:30

Yeah... that can truly blow some of their minds!


Edith Grove Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> schillid Wrote:
> It's an annoyance... and I've
> > seen it slow people down (like cashiers, etc).
>
> You really want to screw up cashier?
>
> Give them the extra penny when your bill is
> $4.26.
> See how much change you get in return!

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: Han ()
Date: November 19, 2007 00:50

schillid Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I lived in an apartment in a "brownstone" in
> Brooklyn for a while...
> There, the floor at street level was the "garden"
> level apartment, while one flight up was the 1st
> floor, then 2nd and 3rd. (Below the garden level
> was the basement.)

In England a "garden" flat will probably be at least half basement...

You might have to scrape me off the floor at the end of the tour, but it'll be really good scrapings. - Mick Jagger

Re: another UK English inquiry (not really OT, but it might as well be!)
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: November 19, 2007 01:09

Han Wrote:
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> In England a "garden" flat will probably be at
> least half basement...


Same there in Brooklyn, I suppose... now that I think about it.
Generally speaking, the garden level apartment was down a few steps under the front stoop.




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-11-19 01:11 by schillid.



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