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these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: mrrockandroll ()
Date: February 4, 2007 14:06

For Example: Tokyo Dome 1990, Tokyo Dome 1995 (Nippon Voodoo), Tokyo Dome 2006 & Saitama 2006. Why is this? Does Japan or the Tokyo Dome have a sort of privilege for broadcasts?

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: February 4, 2007 14:13

Rio, Buenos Aires, Glasgow (radio) etc....

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: Mr.D ()
Date: February 4, 2007 15:14

Tokyo Dome 2006 was filmed professionally but never broadcast...I'm not sure why they have gotten away from pay-per-views like they had on every tour since 1981.

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: mrrockandroll ()
Date: February 4, 2007 15:30

what are pay-per-views actually?

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: wintersway ()
Date: February 4, 2007 15:54

always wondered why the japanese passed on showing a BTB show on tv

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: February 4, 2007 17:58

mrrockandroll Wrote:
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> For Example: Tokyo Dome 1990, Tokyo Dome 1995
> (Nippon Voodoo), Tokyo Dome 2006 & Saitama 2006.
> Why is this? Does Japan or the Tokyo Dome have a
> sort of privilege for broadcasts?


only Japan?


Atlantic City 89, Miami 94, St Louis 97, New York 2003
Barcelona 90, Chorzow 98, Bremen 98
Rio 95, Buenos Aires 95, Santiago '95, Johannesburg '95
Rio 98, Buenos Aires 98, Bangalore '03, Rio '06, Buenos Aires '06

There's 16 shows outside Japan since Steel Wheels that I can think of that were broadcast. Four of them were broadcast live and in full in the US - three in Europe (only one of them - Bremen - was shown live and unedited) plus Rio '06 was shown in full in cinemas in the US at a later date.

Tokyo 98 and Shanghai 06 were filmed for broadcast but dont appear to have been shown.

Cant see how you get the impression that it's only Japanese shows

I think maybe the reason for the lack of PPV's on the last US tour was because they played so many shows there (much more than usual) and more shows than usual had slower sales or werent sellouts - as a result you maybe have less of a TV audience of people who didnt have a chance of seeing the band in person. Whilst there was no PPV show, they did of course have a cinema presentation of the Rio show in the US only, so maybe that was - in their eyes - an alternative to a PPV

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: February 4, 2007 18:18

mrrockandroll wrote: what are pay-per-views actually?
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Technically it means what it says....you pay to view (cable-tv or satellite...)

Now it usually means anything that isn't on free network tv.
In the USA....

Example: 1981 HBO broadcast (monthly subscription to HBO)
Example #2: 1989 Atlantic City was an actual PPV event...additonal $30 (or something) to specifically receive the live concert via your cable-tv subscriber.
Example #3: 1994 Miami....I think that was similar to 1989 (not sure)
Example #4: 1998 St. Louis.....I think it was actually free for DirecTv satellite subscribers.
Example #5: 40 Licks Tour - HBO broadcast (monthly subscription to HBO)
Example #6: Rio Show (Selected US cinemas.. for $15 per person I think)

All audio simlucasts on free FM radio....usually.


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Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: February 4, 2007 18:33

Was the 1981 show broadcast on HBO? As I recall, it was a closed-circuit broadcast in cinemas plus a PPV on various local channels (going by the ads I have on my video copy..LOL), but I never read about it being shown on HBO.

One of the PPV shows were broadcast on Showtime (either 1989 or 1994, I think it was the latter)

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: headly123 ()
Date: February 4, 2007 19:38

Sweet Neo Con. I am the last person on this board to say something about a fact but the Rio concert was free online to AOL users as well. Although you are right in that fact that is was also available in select Movie Threatres.

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: drbryant ()
Date: February 4, 2007 19:54

Historically, the guarantees paid to the performers in Japan were very high. Promoters were willing to pay big, but they needed to recoup, and one of the rights that they have traditionally negotiated is the right to broadcast the show, either once or twice in the 3-6 month period following the concert. They then sell those rights to a local station to make their money back. I believe it was on cable this time, in the past it has been on regular old terrestrial television.

That's a good question about BTB -- I guess the promoters that year didn't want to pay for the TV rights.

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: lamemodem2 ()
Date: February 4, 2007 19:57

The Atlantic City 1989 show was also shown on broadcast TV in the US for free. FOX network, I think. Parts of it were broadcast in 3-D.

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: February 5, 2007 17:04

was that not a re-run, though?

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 5, 2007 17:10

>> was that not a re-run, though? <<

it wasn't aired until a while later, if that's what you mean (a few months, i think, but i'm not sure);
and it wasn't the complete show. it was really good though!
better sound than the PPV, and some better camera angles too



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-02-05 17:12 by with sssoul.

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: February 5, 2007 17:39

thats what I thought. The original broadcast wasnt on 'free' TV, though.

Re: these days only Japanese concerts seem to be broadcasted: WHY?
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: February 5, 2007 18:18

re: my earlier post....merely based on my sometimes faulty memory.

yes...atlantic city (partial) was later shown on free tv with the added 3-d segments....i was recalling live broadcasts.

i didn't know that '94 voodoo miami was on Showtime. also didn't know about the RIO/AOL thing.

And as long as we're mentioning "re-runs"....the '98 St. Louis show was aired during a fundraising period for US public television (PBS) and the dvd was offered as an incentive to donate.....this was prior to it being released to the general public on dvd (as i recall).

re: 1981 Hampton Show....all this time i thought it was an HBO thing...i guess i'm wrong. i didn't have cable or anything in '81...thanks.


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-02-05 18:21 by sweet neo con.



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