This is a straight-up rocker;from the days when they still played their rocktunes off the new album. In 73 ehen they moved over to Europe to continue the tour they rehearsed the new album and debuted 6 of them in Vienna. It seems like they played all the new ones on the following night. They might have alternated "Heartbreaker" and "Silver Train" but I;m not sure. (There was also a show from Cologne in there at the start of tour that is actually not documented). Then all of the sudden they drop Silver Train after London.
Were they wanting to shorten the setlist? or was ST just not working? I can not recollect how it sounds from the boots in that time.
It seems like this was a Taylormade song...

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Keith said in an interview at the time that they dropped it because "it sounded too much like 'All down the line' when played live.

Its certainly a song I'd like to see them unearth

better chance of Johnny Winter doing it live - and that ain't sayin' much. BTW, Johnny's version is better - there, kick that around for a bit.....

Jumped the track.

No, really, Gazza's post is the same thing I read somewhere.

Definitely one of my fave Stones cuts. Maybe it didn't sound as good after Taylor left though I could swear they played it during the '75 tour. Johnny's version is indeed great but I like both versions about the same, they're not much different except for the vocals and Johnny's version has slightly raunchier guitar on it.

Bring back the Silver Train baby !!!

It didn't sound as good after Taylor left because,it hasn't been played since he left.It was played three times in concert,all in '73.

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Duane in Houston Wrote:
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> Definitely one of my fave Stones cuts. Maybe it
> didn't sound as good after Taylor left though I
> could swear they played it during the '75 tour.
>

nope

It's a nice song, but it's unimaginative, a watered-down version of All Down the Line. I don't see why everyone loves this song so much.



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One of their best tracks ever!!

StonesTod Wrote:
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> BTW, Johnny's version is better (Johnny Winter)

TOTALLY AGREE - that's why the Stones version is SO disapointing - someone out does the Stones on their own song plus Johnny's version came out first (Brilliant planning !!).....

Nice bass work.

Gazza Wrote:
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> Keith said in an interview at the time that they
> dropped it because "it sounded too much like 'All
> down the line' when played live.


Yes. I was just about to write this. Great on "Ultimate Brussels Affair" though.

JumpingKentFlash

I've never like it. I think it's boring. I love Al Down The Line though, especially live. Whenever I hear Silver Train, I think of Mick prancing around in that camp blue outfit!

black crowes are doing a smokin version of silver train on there current tour.

It's an ok track. One of the weaker ones from that era IMO

Its NY Dolls & the Stones in a symbiosis. Would fit in a Bigger bang!

Back in September, 1973, at the first of their two Manchester gigs, they actually got ready to do it, and spent quite a bit of time fine tuning their guitars while Jagger exchanged some hilarious (and quite camp!) banter with the audience. Then they abandoned the idea.

They were going to play Sweet Virginia that night as well but exactly the same thing happened.

Logie, where did you hear that story ? It sounds a bit unlikely, since Sweet Virginia wasn't played after Mannheim, and Silver Train was left out after the 1st London show.
It's not too often that RS change their mind while on stage, over which song to do.

Hi Erik.

I was actually there at the gig itself! Row F.

Like it was yesterday, I can recall after the 3 or 4 minute delay, Jagger saying something to the effect of, "We WERE going to play Silver Train, but now we're not".

They had got the acoustic guitars out for Sweet Virginia a bit earlier in the show (after @#$%& perhaps??) and exactly the same thing happened.

Interestingly, I have an interview that they did with Nick Kent after the gig, from an old NME, and as I recall, they might even have mentioned these very incidents. What I do recall distinctly from the interview however, is that the following night's performance was out of this world, which was something I did not want to hear. Far from home, with no money, I had been forced to sell my ticket for that night's show.

If I could turn back time....

Just found the interview referred to above! Entitled, "Outcasts All Their Lives", it is featured on page 134 of David Dalton's book, The First Twenty Years (1981).

My brain hasn't gone yet!!

Logie, that's really something! Manchester 73...
It's a shame that the first Manchester doesn't circulate (to my knowledge at least).
I wish I could remember a 73 gig like if it was yesterday!

There was definetly a tape in circulation, back in the late seventies/early eighties, so someone MUST have it.

I must add however, that having attended the Wembley Empire gig two days before (the famous one - ie Sunday), the first Manchester show was a lot better, even with the howlups, but this may have been because I was a great deal closer to the stage in a theatre that held around 1500.

God knows what the next night must have been like. I suppose I still don't want to know!

nothing happened to it: it has sucked from the beginning, and continues to.

you can't catch me!

im going home on a southbound train with a song in my mouth,love it.

john scialfa

From Nico:

730911B 11th September: Manchester, England, England, Belle Vue
Note: A short 16mm private film is reported to exist.

[That is, no circulating audio, and Nico has not seen the video. Rob's Gimme Shelter site also shows no circulating audio.]

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From the sound & feel of da Vienna
performance Silver Train woulda been a rave up live....

The September 4 1973 Cologne performance
is listed as being available on From The Vaults - VGP 100.



ROCKMAN

Not a fan of the tune, it sounds forced. The last minute and half is great, though.