"What certainly does not excite me is the halftime show. This is Detroit. We're a city steeped in musical history. Motown, electronica, modern rock, all these great things Detroit has given the world of Music. Yet who are the special musical performers representing Detroit? The Rolling Stones. They don't mean anything Detroit. Why not Eminem, Kid Rock or The White Stripes? I realize that Super Bowl XXXII's halftime show was a tribute to Motown, but why not give a little bit more to the music that helped define the 60's and 70's ?
Moreover, I hate the Rolling Stones. They've had some good songs, heck, and some great songs. However, they've played these great songs so many times over and over, and sold them to so many corporations trying to look cool, that the songs themselves have lost their cool factor.
You can also be assures that the Stones will play some junk from their new album, of which no one cares about. Recycling the same chords and basic format for 40 years is not at all inventive, it's greedy. Mick, play "Paint It Black", "Wild Horses" and "Gimmie (sp) Shelter" and get out of my face.
Those guys are going to tour until they literally drop dead. Seriously. It will be in the headlines- "Mick Jagger dies while playing 'Satisfaction' for the 45,643rd time." It's sick. It's wrong that a band whose members actually want to represent music are actually living jokes, shells of what they used to be.
Now, The Beatles, they got it right. They broke up just at the right time, just in time to avoid the cheesy 70's and the synth happy 80's. They remain the greatest band ever, but didn't tour (at least the later non-boy band version didn't.) When they broke up, they did their seperate things, but never tried to re-create what they did as a band (Ringo doesn't count). Paul McCartney did the halftime show last year, and it was great, simple, beautiful and stupendous. Unlike Jagger and friends, McCartneys new music is re-inventive and challenging to himself. His latest release is better than some of the stuff he did with The Beatles. He's not making records to make money, he has enough. He's making records because thats what he does. He's a musician; he will always be a musician. If the Stones cared about music, they would stop charging people $500 for bad covers of their own songs at their concerts, retire and settle into their place in rock history.
History will write the Stones as not the rough-edged- bad boys of rock, but as the band that let it bleed, and bleed qdn bleed and bleed, until the dead horse was no more.

Anyways, Shidoobee is doing it, we should to this tool's email is

erik@suburbanlifestyles.com

drop him a line and tell him what you think, just don't threaten to kill him.

forgot to mention, it came from a local detroit newspaper, Erik Martin (the author) calls himself the Music Man.

the guy just doesn't like the Stones......just one person's opinion.....no big deal

Oh my god, he's so pitiful.
Not that you can't criticize the Stones.
But this so plain stupid and thru and thru wrong it's hard to read to the end. The Stones are too cool for some people. This is a shocking example.

why bother writing to the guy just because he doesnt happen to like the Rolling Stones?

What is this? The Rolling Stones Liberation Front?

"Shidoobee is doing it, we should too" - anyone who thinks this crap is important should get a life or be locked up. Seriously.

What next? Are you all going to impose a 'fatwa' on music magazines that dont list "Exile" as the greatest album of all time? Let Jay Leno's tyres down for making jokes about the Stones being old?

"drop him a line and tell him what you think, just don't threaten to kill him"

nice opt-out disclaimer. After all, we cant have people thinking Stones fans are unhinged, can we?



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Gazza Wrote:
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> why bother writing to the guy just because he
> doesnt happen to like the Rolling Stones?
>
> What is this? The Rolling Stones Liberation
> Front?

Perfect. Nailed it.

Martin's piece is just contrarian bait anyway...

Gazza Wrote:
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>
> What is this? The Rolling Stones Liberation
> Front?
>


LOL!!!

Ouch!!!

The truth can hurt sometimes!

Life is too short to be wasted on minor details. Just ignore.

Bjornulf

Life may indeed be short, but to anyone living outside of the USA, the whole idea of having musical entertainment at half-time for a so-called sporting event is absolutely ludicrous. I mean can you imagine the Stones or U2 performing at half-time in the Champions League Final?

The whole thing has nothing to do with sport or music and absolutely everything to do with commercialisation. Sadly, by subscribing to this circus, the Stones seem to be slowly but surely losing any last grams of credibility that they had spent decades building up, by selling their very souls to commercial interests.

Life is NEVER too short to have principles and to stick by them. It is what the real essence of rock music is about.

LOGIE Wrote:
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> Life may indeed be short, but to anyone living
> outside of the USA, the whole idea of having
> musical entertainment at half-time for a so-called
> sporting event is absolutely ludicrous. I mean can
> you imagine the Stones or U2 performing at
> half-time in the Champions League Final?
>
> The whole thing has nothing to do with sport or
> music and absolutely everything to do with
> commercialisation. Sadly, by subscribing to this
> circus, the Stones seem to be slowly but surely
> losing any last grams of credibility that they had
> spent decades building up, by selling their very
> souls to commercial interests.
>
> Life is NEVER too short to have principles and to
> stick by them. It is what the real essence of rock
> music is about.
>

you gonna watch it Logie?

Show some respect. I don't understand people who think their spors or events are better than others. Kind of selfish and not so very global thinking. One world.

Bjornulf

Well written, I fully agree with him.

Leonard, I'll be safely tucked up in bed dreaming of Liverpool's next Champions League Final victory (in Paris).

However, I'll watch a recording of it in the morning (cringing behind the cushion no doubt!).

We are not shidoobee we are ''Tell me'' just not the Hamas of the Stones''Period!''

bv Wrote:
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> Show some respect. I don't understand people who
> think their spors or events are better than
> others. Kind of selfish and not so very global
> thinking. One world.
>
> Bjornulf


Why am I being selfish? I happen to share my sporting event with an entire continent thank you!

Nothing important. A honest guy who admits that he hates the Stones is writing the usual clishe. Atleast he is honest...

when you read the 2nd paragraph again, he actually enjoys a lot of the Stones music but hates what theyve become

Gazza Wrote:
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> when you read the 2nd paragraph again, he actually
> enjoys a lot of the Stones music but hates what
> theyve become


...precisely.

Who cares?

I'm a soccer fan and always bored at half time, would love that there would be a concert! Especially the stones!

maybe we can get the Eagles/Allman Brothers/Skynard/Buddy Guy/Etc.. to go play at intermission of the English Cricket championships and just call the whole thing even...oh yeah..or Billy Joel

...and while we're at it, how about another band before the match as well!

And if your team is really really crap (and boring), how about more acts after the match has finished so you can forget what you went there for in the first place.

micwer Wrote:
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> Who cares?


Not me, personally, but enough people do who should know better and seem to get a bit over-sensitive at the silliest thing

No doubt there'll be a mass fan gathering, "Satanic Verses"-style to burn copies of his newspaper before the next Stones gig.

Gazza Wrote:
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> Not me, personally, but enough people do who
> should know better and seem to get a bit
> over-sensitive at the silliest thing
>
> No doubt there'll be a mass fan gathering,
> "Satanic Verses"-style to burn copies of his
> newspaper before the next Stones gig.


That is happening for another cause right now, pretty frightening. But we can't get into details at this board. Politcs.

I know...I like to keep my satire topical!!

Gazza wrote "when you read the 2nd paragraph again, he actually enjoys a lot of the Stones music but hates what theyve become"

To me key- word is "hate". He hardly admits the Stones have "some great songs". The monotonoum, boring cilshe "i hate what theyve become" it's the typical reaction of the Stones haters, not today, but since ...1973. For many, various "reasons". In 1978 was "sad" the fact that the Stones had played disco ("Miss You"). Also was "sad" the fact that the band on the tour was performing every night 6-8 new songs. "What a shame. They care only about the promotion of the new stuff", blah, blha, blah... Now is "sad" the fact that the Stones are doing the ...opposite.

According to this guy, when Macca goes to Superball everything it's OK but when Stones are performing there we have almost a ...cultural desaster. Why? Because he believes that the last Macca's album (zzzzzzz) is perfect and that the Stones are not making good music anymore. OK, this huge Beatles fan has the right to believe anything he wants. But unfortunately (for him) much more people care about the new album and the tour of the Stones than the new record and the tour of Macca, who in my opinion didn't create a great album since "Band On The Run".

Liked or not the Stones is the one and only born in 60s act that is TODAY so popular. That's what the history is writing. And probably that's make him so envy...

If Stones fans are offended by this guys comments it's probably because most of it is true and sometimes this hurts especially if you are a die hard stones fan like me. He did acknowledge that the band had made some great songs and have to agree that if the Stones really cared about their fans they would'nt charge $450 for a ticket. As for the Motown people not relishing the idea of the Stones playing at halftime I would remind them that the Stones really did help black artists eventually get the recognition they so rightly deserved by covering songs by these artists. The Stones have often recorded and played live versions of Motown classics and many blues songs stretching as far back as Robert Johnson. As I said people are entitled to their own views and just because you dont't agree with them it does'nt mean their wrong.

John (Stjohnswood)

It is selfish to say the following - direct cut/paste from post about NFL and Superbowl:

- so-called sporting event
- The whole thing has nothing to do with sport

I would not judge or put a stamp on other people's interests. I would not say my sport or even is better than others. I would not say I am better than others. To put your stuff above others is what I call selfish (looking inwards not outwards).

Bjornulf

my only comment : now we know who hides behind "ferrante"...

and if Jagger dies during the 45,643rd time performimg Satisfaction...well, then there's hope for many more tours....