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OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: January 24, 2006 20:16

I was listening to this last night. Is it Zep's Exile? Wide variety of styles including some country and blues - just like Exile. Don't forget "Boogie With Stu". Was Stu the only guest to ever appear on a Led Zep studio album? Anyway, I like it.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: capsula ()
Date: January 24, 2006 20:32

For me it's their best album. I have heard the same comparison with exile. It has songs that were rehearsed for Lez Zep IV. Boogie with stu was one of them.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: Cafaro ()
Date: January 24, 2006 21:02

great disc. Didn't they get sued for Dying Time?

I think I read somewhere that Keith and Woddy had a hand in the Rover.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: humanriff77 ()
Date: January 24, 2006 21:14

Yes for me this is the best Zeppelin record, probably the only one that hasnt dated too much,great stuff. I always think of it as the "neighbour revenge" record, if the neighbours are pissing you off, crank this one up full,they shut up amazingly quickly.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: January 24, 2006 22:20

Again, does anybody know -

Was Stu the only guest to ever appear on a Led Zep studio album?

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: thrak ()
Date: January 24, 2006 22:26

The Same hause which is on PG cover Stones used in Waiting On A friend Video

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: January 24, 2006 22:34

thrak,

That's interesting. I had no idea. The stoop Mick is sitting on with the Jamacians. Yeah!

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: January 24, 2006 22:44

Elmo Lewis Wrote:
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> Again, does anybody know -
>
> Was Stu the only guest to ever appear on a Led Zep
> studio album?


Sandy Denny from Fairport Convention sang with Plant on The Battle of Evermore from Led Zep IV. So now the question becomes, was Stu the only guest to ever play an instrument on a Led Zep studio album? He also played on Rock 'N' Roll. I'll have to think about that one and get back to you.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-01-25 06:44 by ohnonotyouagain.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: Odd-beat ()
Date: January 24, 2006 22:47

Wasn't there a tabla player on Black Mountain Side (Zep I)?
And there is an orchestra on Kashmir, so that counts too!

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: January 24, 2006 22:47

Ok, I've searched the inner reaches of my brain and I can't think of any Zep tracks besides the three mentioned that had any guests on them. I don't think there are any, but I may be wrong. Does anybody know for sure?

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: JK ()
Date: January 24, 2006 22:48

And there is a connection between Physical Graffiti and Waiting on a Friend...

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: January 24, 2006 22:48

Odd-beat Wrote:
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> Wasn't there a tabla player on Black Mountain Side
> (Zep I)?
> And there is an orchestra on Kashmir, so that
> counts too!


There is definitely a tabla on BMS, but was that John Paul Jones? I don't know. And as far as I know there is no orchestra on Kashmir, but I could be wrong.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: January 24, 2006 22:49

JK Wrote:
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> And there is a connection between Physical
> Graffiti and Waiting on a Friend...


Really? What is it?

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: JK ()
Date: January 24, 2006 22:51

Check out the cover of PG and you will see the same stairs Mick and Keith sat on the WOAF video.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Date: January 24, 2006 22:59

Presence.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: Odd-beat ()
Date: January 24, 2006 23:00

I am pretty shure there is a brass orchestra AND a mellotron on Kashmir.
I have not seen the original Zep I album in eons, but I recall there was this strange Indian name mentionned in the credits... Or did I get mixed up with some Beatles LP...

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: January 24, 2006 23:04

Odd-beat Wrote:
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> I am pretty shure there is a brass orchestra AND a
> mellotron on Kashmir.
> I have not seen the original Zep I album in eons,
> but I recall there was this strange Indian name
> mentionned in the credits... Or did I get mixed up
> with some Beatles LP...

I think you might be right. Let me check on that and get back to you.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: kienan ()
Date: January 25, 2006 00:06

Let's not forget that only two people ever appear as guests on stage with Led Zeppelin: Keith Moon and our very own Ron Wood. Hopeful,my memory has served me well on this.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: Messhead ()
Date: January 25, 2006 01:37

Since we're on the topic, wasn't Night Flight originally given to the Stones, who turned it down and Led Zep took it? Also, was Jimmy Page (who's all the rage) on Memo From Turner along with Ry Cooder>?

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: DrPete ()
Date: January 25, 2006 02:06

Yes Moonie played 6-23-77 on the encore RnRoll, Woody played 2-13-75 on the encore of Comm. Breakdown. Also Simon Kirke played on the encore on 6-30-80 (RNR). He and The Bad Co. Guitarist also played RNR w/them Dallas 77(I think may 4th). Definate brain fart on the name of the guitarist. 2 roadies played on a encore from Japan 9-28-71(C'mon Everybody, Something Else). No other studio performances that i know of. Roy Harper perhaps, but not completely sure.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: DrPete ()
Date: January 25, 2006 02:18

Mick Ralphs was the Bad Co guitarist and the roadie, Clive Courlson supposedly SANG C'mon Everybody and High Heeled Sneekers in a wig impersonating Plant on 9-28-71. The boot sounds like Percy though.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: January 25, 2006 03:42

Thanks for the good info. I also really like the Houses Of The Holy album. Why is HOTH (the song) on PG and not HOTH (album)? BTW, HOTH features "The Song Remains The Same", the title of another album. Could Zep have been using drugs???????

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: DrPete ()
Date: January 25, 2006 03:52

No! Only drank herbal tea.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: January 25, 2006 06:34

DrPete Wrote:
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> Yes Moonie played 6-23-77 on the encore RnRoll,
> Woody played 2-13-75 on the encore of Comm.
> Breakdown. Also Simon Kirke played on the encore
> on 6-30-80 (RNR). He and The Bad Co. Guitarist
> also played RNR w/them Dallas 77(I think may 4th).
> Definate brain fart on the name of the guitarist.
> 2 roadies played on a encore from Japan
> 9-28-71(C'mon Everybody, Something Else). No other
> studio performances that i know of. Roy Harper
> perhaps, but not completely sure.

Record company exec Phil Carson played bass (John Paul Jones was on piano) for at least one song at a show during the 1980 tour. I think it was somewhere in Germany. They played the old rock standard Money. I have this on a bootleg called Dinosaur. Plant introduces him in a tongue in cheek way, telling the crowd Carson's a record exec and saying "there's only one thing in the world this man cares about, it's called Money" before they launch into the song. Quite a good version of it, too, kind of slow and heavy.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: January 25, 2006 06:52

ohnonotyouagain Wrote:
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> Odd-beat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am pretty shure there is a brass orchestra
> AND a
> > mellotron on Kashmir.
> > I have not seen the original Zep I album in
> eons,
> > but I recall there was this strange Indian
> name
> > mentionned in the credits... Or did I get
> mixed up
> > with some Beatles LP...
>
> I think you might be right. Let me check on that
> and get back to you.

Yep, you're right. I hauled out my old vinyl copy and it says "Tabla drums on Black Mountain Side: Viram Jasani." I was going to make a joke along the lines of "ah, the immortal Viram Jasani, wonder what he's up to now." But this time I remembered to check my facts and googled his name, and suprisingly enough he comes up several times for non-Zep related music. Not as obscure as I thought, apparently. Unless there are two tabla playing Viram Jasani's, which I suppose is possible.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: swsfo ()
Date: January 25, 2006 10:20

Would have to agree that PG is LZ's equiv. of the Stones Exile - so many good songs, so many musical styles - both records stand the test of time - with Exile out in 72 and PG out in 75 - and they still rock!

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: OILY_DIPSTICK ()
Date: January 25, 2006 10:35

LZ1 and PG, what a pair!

Oily.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: RnT ()
Date: January 25, 2006 12:50

And wasn't the Rolling Stones Mobile used for the recording of PG (just as it was for Exile)?

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: eric ()
Date: January 25, 2006 15:04

Zep used The mobile several times. IMO, PG is one of the best records for a ROCK band ever. So many style and influences. PG is heard all by bands even today, if you listen it probably the most ripped off piece of ROCK music today. It is thier shining moment. The Stones are my fav but PG is my fav record of all time. Exile is a VERY close second. How about Zep IV still in the top 40 of UK charts.... amazing.

Re: OT: Physical Graffiti
Posted by: Odd-beat ()
Date: January 25, 2006 15:07

Yeah, but the RS Mobile was rented by so many different acts in those days, I wouldn't use it as a common denominator here.
It is tempting to compare PG and EoMS, and I do love both sets. However, IMO they are quite different on the basis that EoMS forms a whole, a "melting pot" so to speak of inspiration and performance (although I am really not that well informed about the origins of the different tracks it comprises... I believe they were for the most part, at least recorded at Keith's house on the Côte d'Azur). Whereas about half of PG is rejects from past sessions going as far back as Zep III. I say rejects as an expression because most remain very strong songs. So in this respect I get more of a "Sticky Finger feeling" out of it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-01-25 17:10 by Odd-beat.

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