QuoteTravellinMan A national treasure. RIP. This Travelin Man agrees RIP
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Fantastic album. Outtakes are cool too
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QuoteDoxa QuoteTravelinMan ^ what year did he sign vs his record actually come out? 1977 vs 1979. But he seemingly started rhe recordings for the album before the deal. - Doxa Should have hired a producer!
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^ what year did he sign vs his record actually come out?
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QuoteMathijs QuoteSomeGuy For me IORR is a top album alright. It's got more raw and raunchy songs on it than its immediate, softer predecessors in that it has the guitars turned up more loudly than before, Jagger singing more abrasive than usually (not always a good thing though here it works), the drums are heavier. To me it is their first more modern, fresh sounding and almost hard rock li
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QuoteTheflyingDutchman To me this is very tricky to copy note for note.The repeating intro and outdo in particular. 1 week of practising for playing 3 minutes of non stop music. You gotta be from the mountains to play that!
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QuoteSpud QuoteTravelinMan QuoteMathijs The only of his playing that I don't like very much is where he is required to play mainly rhythm guitar. I find him annoying on HTW, his rhythm feel for StarF is awkward, his approach for JJF goes against the drive of Keith and Charlie and drags the song down a bit. I like his lead on RTJ, but his rhythm approach is a strange kind of jazz improv which
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QuoteMathijs The only of his playing that I don't like very much is where he is required to play mainly rhythm guitar. I find him annoying on HTW, his rhythm feel for StarF is awkward, his approach for JJF goes against the drive of Keith and Charlie and drags the song down a bit. I like his lead on RTJ, but his rhythm approach is a strange kind of jazz improv which just doesn't work, it
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QuoteDandelionPowderman More like one-dimensional knitting On a serious note, I know that rhythm means different things for different people. I respect that. However, imo Taylor adds to Keith's rhythm playing in both cases. Take away Keith's rhythm tracks and you don't have a rhythm guitar, you have single string syncopated licks (which fit perfectly to Keith's guitar
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QuoteMathijs QuoteTheflyingDutchman They are better after or at the end of a tour because they have more routine. Clean or on Cocaine and drunk. The way that Keith, Rom Wood or Taylor play is not technically demanding. First, try to play like Richards and Wood on the 1978 and 1981 tour and you'll find out it is much more technically challenging then expected. They play inventive lines,
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Quotedcba QuoteDoxa 'Songs first, songs first', say the bosses... - Doxa Said differently : 'hey we do not need a Jimmy Page clone in our band'. I am pretty sure Mick and Keith held in absolute contempt bands that played looong tracks with loooong guitar solos in them, like Zep or Pink Floyd. And even live MT was held on a leash : listen to 73 aud tapes : there a
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There’s a version from Stones in Exile where Jagger says “come in when you feel it Mick.” If only they let it play a little longer
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QuoteNilsHolgersson I heard he lives in Diever in Drenthe (Netherlands), which is like 20 minutes away from me.. can't believe I'm living this close to a legend lol Ask him if he played on Loving Cup
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Quoteexilestones QuoteDandelionPowderman I've always liked this one. However, the production on this album is not up to par, imo. Very nice! As far as the production: I've heard a few people don't like the Fender Rhodes (either authentic or a patch on a keyboard) Max Middleton plays on this. It's an electric piano and really doesn't scream RnR or blues.
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QuoteTheflyingDutchman Quoteexilestones QuoteTravelinMan the terrible Short & Curlies. I like Short and Curlies. It's great to play at bachelor parties. That's Keith on lead. I thought for years it's Taylor. Keep up the good work Keith It's a fun jaunt, but it really is scraping the barrel to be included on an album, just ask Andy Johns (RIP). What I like m
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Quoteroryfaninva Fun fact- k.d. lang has as many songwriting credits with the Rolling Stones as Mick Taylor. Strange how things worked out.... What about Brian Jones?
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QuoteDoxa QuoteTravelinMan Are you telling me Brown Sugar or Bitch or Dead Flowers are luminous masterpieces of the songwriting craft? I don't know what Dandie tells, but I tell that those three tunes are exactly luminous masterpieces of the songwriting craft. Even genius ones as far as rock and roll song-writing goes. If there is a basic course on rock song writing, those three could be u
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QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteTravelinMan QuoteDandelionPowderman Mick singing You Don't Move Me would have been hilarious No, I'm not thinking of my preferred performance. For me, Broken Hands is second rate Stones, in terms of writing, singing and playing. IMO, he should have avoided that on his first solo album. It's not bad, but it's nothing special, either. The son
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QuoteDandelionPowderman Mick singing You Don't Move Me would have been hilarious No, I'm not thinking of my preferred performance. For me, Broken Hands is second rate Stones, in terms of writing, singing and playing. IMO, he should have avoided that on his first solo album. It's not bad, but it's nothing special, either. The song I posted above (Never Fall In Love Agai
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QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteTaylor1 Quotedcba QuoteRockman Unfortunately, nothing is on a par with his work with the Stones Yeah that pretty well sums it up ... Imo that is the problem all the band’s sidemen face : Nicky or Bobby Keys were there during the bands golden age, they added beautiful things to Mick and Keith’s songs. But if you listen to their solo albums made during the same g
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QuoteMathijs QuoteTravelinMan I saw the Stones in ATL last time they were there and for some reason Taylor is being judged at a different level than the ACTUAL band's guitar players who should be ULTRA rehearsed, yet they fumbled and stumbled through stuff and they get a pass. Ronnie Wood was zonked out of his mind for years and I'll tell you for a fact he was pulled out of the live m
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QuoteMathijs QuoteTaylor1 QuoteMathijs QuoteDoxa A dream indeed, taken that the guitarist has retired years ago. But what goes for the three guitar concept, Keith also seemed to be initially thrilled about the idea, but afterwards came to the conclusion that it does not work. I take the latter mean that the arrangements, including the guitar parts and roles, of modern Stones shows are so carved
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Quotedcba QuoteStoneage But I guess his motivation to leave were on other grounds. It certainly was not the issue of not being credited for songs he co-wrote, otherwise he would have left in 71, after looking at the sleeve of Sticky Fingers and noticing MMile was officially a MJ/KR song. Nah I think that in 74 MT thought he needed another vehicule/band to convey his huge musical talent an
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Quoteslew I love MT's time with the STones but I feel the bad got a boost when Ronnie joined. They have never been better live than with Taylor but in the studio they were kind of rung out. I likr GHS a lot and IORR is good but Taylor's frustration, Keith getting elegantly wasted and he and Mick not writing together much any longer was taking a toll on the creativity. I really thin th
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Quotepmk251 This has no doubt been covered here, but Axios TV has aired a series of Spin magazine's 100 greatest RnR stars. #1 is, as many here know, Keith. But if you check Spin's website about the list and the comments on each artist you will find something interesting mentioned about Keith, i.e., "the wail of Winter." As many of you know, Keith does not play on Winter and t
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QuoteDandelionPowderman Quoteexilestones Luxury is a longer version of the song (a little more at the end of the song - more Mick Taylor lead). Same song but a little more of it. Paint It Black had a shorter (3:22) and longer version (3:45) released. The longer version was only released in mono. I believe the longer Paint It Black is on Forty Licks. An even longer version of Paint It Black
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QuoteWhale Hendrix on film is very boring Lol ok
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QuoteMarkdog I realize Andy pushed them to record this one and he considers it one of the better one. It representing the full circle from their original blues formation makes sense too. But, it's just not a good or catchy song at all. I find it boring and now it's the only song I skip. This is what I find most interesting about the subjective nature of music fandom. This blues is
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QuoteTheflyingDutchman QuoteDoxa Let's go on. So Muddy liked "Rollin' Stone"/"Catfish Blues" so much that he wrote totally new lyrics on it, and called it "Still A Fool" (sometimes called as "Two Trains Running"). Here is the 1951 original (Little Walter on second guitar, and, interestingly, Leonard Chess on bass drum supporting him there):
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QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteTravelinMan QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteTravelinMan QuoteDandelionPowderman Quotedonvis They should’ve played it a little slower like the record. Very compressed compared to the rest of the record. Mick should’ve said Muddy instead of baby like he said Slim Harpo in Shake Your Hips. And last, but not least, they omitted the third verse. Nevertheless, I enjoyed it.
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