QuoteLA FORUMAbout Rock n roll circus: Parachute woman is in standard and on studio in open D/open E. Same as JJF. Some of the acoustics could be tuned to open E/D, but the electric lead guitar is standard.
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Quotewith sssoul>> not sure how they'd play that using open E << quite - so unless Keith had a second guitar and all the photos so far are from JJF ... but barring that possibility is everyone in agreement now? Brian in open G on Rooster, Keith most likely in standard (*possibly* open E) on JJF at the NME gig, in standard at the Circus and in open G ever since? good - ano
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QuoteMathijs And here the reason why about all amps from the '50's and '60's have changed speakers -they weren't made to blast at full volume! Sure sounds great that amp, gotta find one as well! Mathijs Any suggestions for a replacement? I'm not sure what the ohm is. QuoteNickBThat sounds absolutely gorgeous. That tone. Oh wow. & you can play real
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QuoteMathijs 2] Keith was or wasn't in open E for JJF at the 68 NME show I say he was in standard tuning, but as always that Majesty dude makes me has second thoughts. It's just a thought really, some of the fingering in the photos suggests open E to me, but then again, something like this image looks close to the position I pointed out... ... But that's taken durin
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Brian goes to the 15th fret when he's playing the descending 'hounds begin to howl' thing and goes to the 17th to hit the high G sometimes with a nice E thrown in via the 2nd string. You cannot play in standard and match what Brian is seen and heard to be playing! For example, the slide up to the c chord/5th fret, he's playing his slide straight, and the G note is hear
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Quotewith sssoulwow, a dozen?! any hope you could post some of them, please please and thank you kindly? this is the only other one i've got (besides backstage photos and the one HM posted up there): Here's a few more... There's another shot similar to the one's you posted, but Keith is right back beside the amps, and also one of Mick throwing his
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QuotescottkeefWell I didnt mean Winter was playing the song in a particular chord just referring to the overall sound and of course it clashes with the video/rnr circus sound which was played very "studio" version. That was my point. the LRR slide is very easy to duplicate in standard tuning but since you obviously take your posting name seriously I will not try to contradict the King.
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The footage and audio shows us what is being played, so it's not really a matter of opinion. LRR is definitely played using open G because when Brian slides up to the 12 fret and when he hits the high e string it puts out a d note, he also slides up to the 17th fret for the high G etc etc. To play what is heard, but tuned to standard would require some weird playing by Brian, but the
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QuoteDandelionPowdermanThe key is the placing of his thumb. You'll never place your thumb like Keith does in the picture with the open tuning. That depends on so many things. The thumb is a key point though, during the r&r circus JJF he never seems to play a standard bar chord shape for B at 7th and A at 5th, instead he hooks the thumb over the top to play the low E string, whilst
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QuoteMathijsQuoteHis Majesty 1-5 < pinky fretting high 2-x 3-x 4-5 < 5-5 < - combination of 3rd and 2nd fingers 6-5 < The very first chord in JJF is like the above only it's at the 7th fret. You sure? JJF indeed is: 1-7 < pinky fretting high 2-x 3-x 4-7 < 5-7 < - combination of 3rd and 2nd fingers 6-7 < But on your pic
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QuotescottkeefIf Brian is playing JJF in the first photo in the standard tuning barred at the 7th fret part of the riff is played w/middle 4 strings hit open "barred". also if you will review the stones 65 appearance on Ed Sullivan "Little Red Rooster" is played in standard tuning G(see Keith) and Brian is playing slide in standard tuning(by playing middle 4 strings again). So
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1-5 < pinky fretting high 2-x 3-x 4-5 < 5-5 < - combination of 3rd and 2nd fingers 6-5 < The very first chord in JJF is like the above only it's at the 7th fret.
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QuoteLA FORUMBut isnt that for open G, the live open-tuning? IF they are in open Tuning at the NME Poll Winners concert, it would be open E. It would be completely weird and impractical to play JJF using open G tuning with no capo.
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QuoteMathijsThat sounds great! Do you need to dime it in order to get distortion? The speaker sounds a bit shaky once in a while by the way. Is it still in good shape? Mathijs I think it's more a case of the speaker being too fragile to handle a humbucking guitar and full volume. Yeah the distortion comes from putting the instrument channels vol/tone to 10. The microphone channel di
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QuoteMathijs I don't know -that last pic doesn't look like fretting of an open tuned guitar to me. I'll look up some more pictures. Mathijs But that is a very common Keith thing to do for open E/D. Fretting the bass strings with the 2nd and 3rd fingers whilst fretting the high E string with his pinky, it's all over JJF and Stray Cat Blues. You can also see him use t
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When Brian played slide using open tunings he didn't restrict himself only to using the slide, he sometimes fretted notes with his fingers, during parts of Little Red Rooster and I Wanna Be Your Man for example.
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My wem custom 15 arrived, lovely little amp... Some sound clips here:
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I disagree that they show Keith's in standard because he appears to be barring with his first finger, like Brian, with his other fingers off the fretboard, and in the last pic posted he's doing that weird 3rd finger on the bass strings/pinky fretting the high e string. Just my thoughts, but I guess we'll never really know till we get a copy. I saw a very short clip of this
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It's possible that Keith and Brian may have played JJF using open E tuning at the NME Poll Winners concert in 1968. Brian's fingering positions suggests he at least was in open E tuning. The r&r circus was in standard tuning and every version I have heard since then has been open G with capo at 4th fret. I don't think Keith's ever played SFM or YCAGWYW in open
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Quotewith sssoulHM, i have a feeling that not everyone understands how Ethiopia got into the conversation - on the site ghostryder13 gave the link to it says that's where the second and third shots were taken. Ah, yeah that explains the confusion.
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I am saying I don't think that was taken in Ethiopia and that the family looks Asian. I'm sure the original Christies auction that these photos were part of said where it was taken. My memory is that it was either in India or a neighboring country, but I can't really remember what it said.
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Highly doubt that 'family' pic was taken in Ethiopia.
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I just won this WEM Custom 15 combo on ebay for 190 pounds. 8) I'm expecting some warm cleans and some sweet crunch.
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Nicky is my favourite session player! ... There's a lot of myth's and misunderstandings about Jimmy Page's session career... Page didn't play on Hurdy Gurdy Man, Dave Davies most definitely played the riff and solo's for You Really Got Me and finally, the guitarist with Them, Billy Harrison played all the main licks/solo's on Baby Please Don't Go.
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Quoteopen-g Very nice sounds you're getting from the Triumph. I like the tremelo very much but the fuzz on it's own...well, lets say it this way - I'm not too keen about that. but that's what opinions are for, I guess. Do you use it fairly often? I can't use anything at the moment as I don't have a cab! I'm really trying to track down a 4x12 Vox Supreme c
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Thanks! Down to just the Vox Supreme and the Triumph silicon 100... But I am hoping to have a WEM Custom 15 soon! I've forgotten what it's like to play through a valve amp! You can hear my Triumph here:
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Keith's acoustic is tuned to open D with a capo on the 2nd fret and his les paul custom is tuned to open E for the early symapthy takes and that untitled track. The custom is in standard tuning for the latter Sympathy takes once he's plugged in to the Vox AC30 and starts riffing and soloing. How do you know that 'untitled' track they are messing about with is Silver B
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First the smilies, not so bad - now the photos, really bad! :-(
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Yeah me too, somethings went weird with image linking.
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