Gazza, spot on!
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Philly vs Hampton, I agree. Philly was TOO early. I am thinking about Seattle and around those dates. Much better vocals than Hampton. Mind, the rest of the band... not so good, i.e. not making it to Still Life (which by the way might not be best live album vocalwise, anyway)
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Exactly Sleepy C! He was fab at Webster. It's a one off, like Live Aid was, where he was fab as well. Hampton 81? Jagger performed well at Hampton, but his vocals are not the greatest. Much better earlier during that tour; much like most of the US 1978 tour.
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Mind mind mind, All Down The Line from 1972/75/78 ara also amazing. Never mind the later ones. OK on the 81-tour, but only in the beginning. At the second half of that tour he started saving his voice for the next gig, and has done so ever since, with very few exceptions.
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Live? When the Whip Comes Down live in 1978 from Handsome Girls. Don't Tear Me Up live 1993 Saturday Night Live. Just Another Night for Live Aid 1985. Gimme Shelter from 1972 (or anytime in the 70s really). Studio, Hand Of Fate from B&B. And lots more.
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Agree! The 1975 versions is often fantastic, and I liked the fact that it went right into (a fab!) Get Off Of My Cloud!!!
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Blood On the Tracks Desire Infidels Time Out Of Mind Highway 61/Blonde On Blonde
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Sorry to say, I voted for Live Aid. I mean 1990 Stones is great, 1982 Stones even greater, but compared to Live Aid? A 1972/78 Stones show at Wembley though... No, I dunno, it takes a bit,..even during the horrible mid 80s. Mind, strange thing, dearest lilttle ol' Macca never played Wembley Stadium(!) proper, did he? He played lke 15 Wembley Arenas instead, in 1990. Better value for money I
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Oh dear, what does that mean? Oh, but I could see the pics on my home network, rather than the work network, so OK: In 1975 it was jeans alright, occationally.
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The pic on the top with Billy; that's from the flat bed truck concert they had in NYC to advertise the tour in May 1975, isn't it? If that's part of the tour, then he wore jeans during the tour. For some reason, I cannot see either Rockman's nor Mr Snow's pics, so I might be missing out on something here...!?
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The 1978 tour was the best tour in the 70 - 82 period, apart from 1972/73. IMO.
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Me too! BUT, the 1989 Mick is not the same as the 2011 (or 2006) Mick. Go ahead and compare Atlantic City 89 to anything on the Bigger Bang tour. The difference is nearly(!) as big between 75 and 89 as it is between 89 and 06. Thanks!
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Agreed, the slow versions of HTW in 1975 and 1976 are the best ones. Also the slower Gimme Shelters of the 1994/95 outings are better than the faster ones of 1989/90 (but both of them pales in comparison with most 70s versions, just had to say that). What I mean is, slower does not mean worse necessarily. I also agree with Tumblin_Dice_07 that 1989 was way better than anything since. And t
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Hmmmmmm, Bitch was as fast in 1989 as in 1972, You Can't Alway Cet What You want was way faster in 1989 than in 1975/76 and 1981/82. Satisfaction was faster in 1989 than in 1969. Gimme Shelter was fast engough in 1989. Things have slowed down since then, admittedly, but 1989 versions in general was not very much slower than earlier versions, sometimes the other way around.
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Mck's too old for the long hair stuff now. It was fab up until about say 2000. Mind variations are very welcome, thus I am one of the few I know who liked the 89/90 short hair stuff. The hockey thing, and most things long hair, were very much uot of date at that point, and the Stones very much wanted to be hip and up to date at that point. And succeeded. And the hairdo fitted, and looked goo
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Quotetreaclefingers QuoteDoxa Quotetreaclefingers While I like the analysis, basically you're saying Mick isn't that good a singer, and he needs help from the rest of the band to sound good. If that is in fact the analysis, he's bloody lucky to even have a job as a singer! Well, I think one of the 'secrets' of The Rolling Stones is that none of the original core of t
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"An interesting version here, Mick sings it sort of 60's style with a lot of the original quirks but this one makes him sound like he is screaming or has a sore throat...". Sore throat? No! You see, at Hampton he didn't go for the high notes. In Seattle he did, screaming them, Jagger style. Too much voice saving and little risk taking at Hampton. Mind, the rest of the band
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Yes, Erik Snø, there is such a word as vocally, and I definitely agree with you concerning 78 vs 81 vocally (as you can see from my other post in this thread). In 78 he let it loose totally and didn't think about tomorrow. With great success. During Hampton he is much more careful. During the start of the 1981 tour, jagger sang much more like in 1978. I guess(!) the longer set list of 1981
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QuoteNikolai Great post Vilhelm It's been Lizzy day in my household. Nothing but Thin Lizzy and Phil's solo stuff. Hugely talented singer-songwriter-frontman and bandleader. I met Phil twice, in 1983 and 1984. Great bloke. Warm, generous, funny and very very smart. Greatly missed. Met him? Really? Please tell your tale man!
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Oh man, how much better Jagger sang during the 78 tour. The 78 tour also has lots more energy and better Wood solos. Alle the versions of the Some Girls songs were better in 1978. And just go ahead and compare All Down The Line from 1978 to that of 1981. 78 hands down. Same goes for HTW and Tumbling Dice. The latter is a joke in 1981 as they were clearly tired of it by then. Mind, Jagger sang lot
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"...as a vocalist Jagger, even by the mid nineties, is nowhere near as appealing as his younger self. His vocals tend to irritate somewhat throughout..." Agreed. Still, he sang much better on both the albums Voodoo Lounge and BtB, not to mention Wandering Spirit. He used his recent voice saving live singing on Stripped, which always puzzled me, being a purpose made "live" r
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Don't like neither, but I guess the live one has more edge. Cleancut unrock'n'roll like vocals, like it should be, on a song like that. Mind, Out of Control was (mostly) better live than on the record. There are a couple of latter(?) day examples!
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Mick's live vocals from 1969 to the beginning of the 1981 tour, are (mostly) truly fantastic!
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Right! Mick's supposed to scream and growl. Admittedly, sometimes during the 75/76 tour he overdid it. 78 is fantastic very much due to Jagger's singing (screaming/growling/vocals, call it what you want). Now, look at Voodoo Lounge; on the record there's a lot of great singing, screaming and growling. During the tour; no growling nor screaming. You know why? Saving his voice. Quite
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You mean live or studio versions of songs? In many cases (not at all, all) live until about 78, maybe into 81 and even 89 (Undercover of the Night). Since then, studio versions are to be prefered, so to speak. Often mainly due to Jagger's saving-his-voice live singing, I must say.
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Anyone knows if these will be released seperately, I mean, will we be able to by single albums to fx fill in gaps in the vinyl collection?
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Quoteloog droog Quotestupidguy2 Jagger uses that great growly voice. Used it on "Midnight Rambler" at the Forum in '75. Reminded me of the Bill Cosby album where he did the "Fat Albert" voice ...and on Midnight Rambler in Brussels 1973. That's about the first time, I think.
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That's amazing; where's the rest of that concert man?
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QuoteMathijs Quoteelectricmud @Mathijs : right, SL has lots of well known OD`s, but never realized LSTNT. The other point is that some of the bootlegs (like the mentioned VGP release) seems to use the overdubbed version. Thomas Well, "lots of" is actually not true. Most of the vocals are redone, there's a guitar dub on LSTNT and during the middle-eight of Let Me Go, but as far
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Oh, I like to read Mathijs' posts due to his knownledge on guitars and equipment. Also, he's funny when he gets pissed off, which happens quite a bit.
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