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19 ***days ***ago
LieB
Gotta say I'm warming up to this release. I'm an "archivist" by nature and always skeptic of hodge-podge releases without proper historical facts, and newly updated songs that should have been left alone. But on the other hand, it's great to hear listenable songs over unfinished outtakes and I have to say they have done a good job at making these songs sound good. Even th
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4 ***weeks ***ago
LieB
Just listened to the outtakes disc. As usual with these Stones deluxe versions I'm sort of split between really enjoying them and being annoyed by various things that could have been done better. For starters, this one feels more random than any Stones outtake disc (which says a lot!), with stuff from Some Girls, IORR, Goats and who knows what sessions. Yeah, I know Tattoo You was like th
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5 ***weeks ***ago
LieB
Just bought it on the site! Looking forward to reading it!
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2 ***months ***ago
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QuoteBlueTurns2Grey On the other hand, a fantastic version of Route 66 has been rehearsed, but it wasn't recorded. How do you know it was fantastic?
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3 ***months ***ago
LieB
Who cares about the songs without drums here? But songs with someone else other than Charlie on drums: YCAGWYW Happy Shine A Light IORR Others?
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3 ***months ***ago
LieB
I know Gimme Shelter isn't a concert film per se, and it's mostly famous for historical reasons, but I'll still put my vote on that one. The Altamont part isn't exactly a walk on a beach, but the music and sound is fantastic both in the MSG and Altamont parts, with the Muscle Shoals stuff as an added bonus. I only wish they'd cut the video with more Stones and less Jagger
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3 ***months ***ago
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QuoteSomeTorontoGirl QuoteLady Jayne I don't know if this is the appropriate thread for an article but this one from The Guardian says it all Thanks, that was lovely. Awesome tribute article with interesting insights even for old die-hards like us. RIP Charlie. The world is swaying from this news.
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6 ***months ***ago
LieB
Tarlé was a godsend to Nellcote in '71. There aren't many pictures from there that weren't taken by him. But it's sorta funny that his pics are always collected in those expensive kind of books and then a lot of them end up on the web anyway...
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6 ***months ***ago
LieB
QuoteDandelionPowderman Even though he sang to a sped-down tape, his vocals on Angie are fantastic and deserves a mention. True! Really nasal but fantastic and makes much of the song.
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6 ***months ***ago
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Quoteryanpow I think the peak was '71. His voice had matured at that point but was still raw. Some wonderful stuff though as his singing has evolved over the ensuing decades. Agreed! Love pretty much all his vocals, but he hit some kind of peak there before he started slurring and growling through '73.
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7 ***months ***ago
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Quotetreaclefingers He probably meant Have You Seen Your Mother Baby Standing in the Shadow. Easy mistake. Agree, lovely story, but we'll never know what song he sang I guess. Maybe just Satisfaction.
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7 ***months ***ago
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Quotekeefgotsoul Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how are people able to isolate these specific tracks? Love listening to them! Not a dumb question at all. I think there are basically two ways - either (obviously) you have the separate tracks available, and this has been the case for some songs on youtube because the separate tracks were available in games like Rock Band. I believe Gimm
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8 ***months ***ago
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QuoteBig Al Quotecimaz Interesting thread. Agree partly with the analysis. In 1969 and 1972 the US tours went better and better after rather sloppy beginnings. 1973 european tour is a mixed bag with the british shows being very good (London 8 and Birmingham 1st particularly) and the end of the tour among their best ever (Brussels 1st of course). I partly disagree with the LA shows. 9 and 13
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8 ***months ***ago
LieB
The versions from Australia '73 are pretty cool, especially the two from Sydney on February 27, 1973. It's got a great country rock swagger to it and Mick Taylor plays the best I've ever heard him play on that song. The Perth rendition is great too.
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8 ***months ***ago
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Quotegeorgie48 I saw these guys way back in 1972 in Rotterdam. It was the Aqualung album that inspired me to do so. The Doelen Hall is known to have great acoustics, but Jethro Tull decided to go full power. It was a very enjoyable concert, but it left me with a strong beep in my hearing for almost a week. It was the last time I went to concerts without ear protection Kudos to you for realizin
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9 ***months ***ago
LieB
Having listened to these tracks through and through twice now, I gotta say I really enjoy them. I retract my previous statement that most of them sound unfinished, because a lot of them really are finished songs, especially a lot of the post 1978 ones, even if many of them sound a little too generic for my tastes. I did try to arrange the songs in chronological order (based on BlueTurns2Grey&#
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9 ***months ***ago
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QuoteNilsHolgersson I think it's pretty cool that it's hard to tell for a lot of people if Mick's vocals are new or from 1971. That wouldn't be the case with material by for instance Bob Dylan or Marianne Faithfull. So true!
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9 ***months ***ago
LieB
By the way, I have another idea for this thread. Why don't we add information about any previously releases for each songs, so we get a picture of what songs are previously unknown and what songs have been released before, either on boots or on official releases. I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to contribute much, but some tracks I know of course, like Fiji Jim, Scarlet and Tell H
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9 ***months ***ago
LieB
Good job with this thread, BlueTurns2Grey! It's interesting how productive the Stones were in the '77–83 period, even the latter part of the 80s. I gotta say, though, that the Stones made great choices when selecting tracks for Some Girls and to a lesser extent the albums that came after it. I guess a bunch of outtakes with the Stones are bound to have a lot of generic blues rock
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9 ***months ***ago
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Quotemike567 They are all part of the copyright releases from last year. See here: Ah, I forgot that! Already got that one on the harddrive...
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9 ***months ***ago
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Quotegotdablouse A lot of good points here but leaking 50 tracks on purpose ? No way, if they had wanted to leak something to "promote" an upcoming release it would have been a tracklist with 50 songs and a couple of tracks maybe, everyone here would be even more excited by now ! Agreed!
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9 ***months ***ago
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QuoteJavadave Supposedly, the Stones barred it’s wide distribution because the were worried that the images of rampant sex and drug use would lead to them being banned from performing in the U.S. Can’t see that as even a remote possibility anymore. Time to end the censorship and officially release it as the artifact of a long ago, cherished time that it is. I agree, but some of its contents a
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9 ***months ***ago
LieB
These kinda ended up in the shadow of the Fully Finished Outtakes, but deserves more attention. The choir session obviously isn't much of a song but was fun to hear bits of. Country Honk is lovely, a completely different take with lots of wonderful piano playing. Wild Horses with strings – ugh! Haven't heard that one before either. They sure made the right decision when they dr
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9 ***months ***ago
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Quotejbwelda Actually, I quite liked "the rest of the movie". Rolling Stones, warts and all, whats not to like? Yeah thats how it was more or less (some scenes were staged supposedly). Its like Bobby Keys said, something like, 30 years in the music business and what do people recognize me for? Throwing that TV out the window with Keith. HEY, you're the guy pitched the TV out th
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9 ***months ***ago
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Quotewonderboy They really needed (still do) a producer. All those good ideas and many of them not fully developed. But they – mostly Mick – have already gone to great lengths in "producing" songs with new vocals and stuff for the Deluxe issues. What they need, in my opinion, is a different kind of producer who knows the historical value of these songs (and the live recordings!) and r
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9 ***months ***ago
LieB
Have nearly finished listened to these outtakes now, and here are my couple of cents for now: I really prefer properly ordered stuff with songs from the same sessions in one release, and it sure is a bit schizophrenic jumping between 1967 whimsy, 1974 funk rock and 1997 "Vegas Stones" within the same 15 minutes, but I gotta admit it's a hell of a lot of fun listening to this hod
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9 ***months ***ago
LieB
Scarlet is obviously the same basic track as the GHS Deluxe version, but this one is not as over-loaded. It doesn't have the (IMHO superfluous) acoustic guitar and maracas that was probably added by Mick last year. (He did mention adding a maracas in an interview around the time of the deluxe release.) Makes me think that the lead vocal may actually be from 1974 after all. Maybe the GHS Del
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9 ***months ***ago
LieB
The long thread in Tell Me has a lot of ideas about sources/dates:
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9 ***months ***ago
LieB
QuoteMathijs It's fantastic, and it all sounds very much like it is remixed and mastered recently, Perhaps for the current Deluxe reissues. The drums and bass all sounds the same over the various years, and different to what Charlie normally sounds like. Or the bootlegger had the tapes and simply remastered it too hard. IORR, Living in the Heart of Love, Fast Talking are all ready for
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9 ***months ***ago
LieB
Theoretically, he could have picked up the guitar a bit more toward the end of his life since there was a rootsy back-to-basics trend in 1968–1969 paving the way for 70s rock stuff, but I doubt it.
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