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4 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
Hum, as the 1977 release was lawfully done, then it should be considered that the tape was relased in 1977 and thus are still under copyright ?
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4 ***weeks ***ago
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As of 2023, to sum up the quite complex situation of The Rolling Stones "rights" What I call the Producers' rights regarding recording made or issued with such mention on the records P XXXX Original sound recordings made by : [*] up to 1970 : ABKCO [*] 1971 onward : Promotone.BV With the exception of two songs that are shared by ABKCO and Promotone.BV : Brown Sugar and Wil
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4 ***weeks ***ago
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QuoteIrix QuoteGasLightStreet All but one on STICKY FINGERS is ABKCO Music. Read the Virgin or UME deluxe reissue liner notes - it says all songs published by ABKCO Music. Yes, it's stated as such in the 2015 Deluxe-Edition of Sticky Fingers on the booklet's last pages (above the Design & Picture Credits, the T&L and Polydor logos) - . But in the 1994 Virgin Europe (a
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4 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
QuoteDoxa Ok, ds1984, thanks for correction (my Beatlelogist credidentials are pretty limited). I wonder if already having a contract had a role. Probably yes. - Doxa Unless exception yes. When you sign a recording contract with a record producer you own him the "exclusivity" for recording and release records. Among the exception to the exclusivity is recording for broadcast.
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4 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
QuoteGasLightStreet Quoteds1984 QuoteIrix Quoteds1984 I try to stay focused on what these ABKCO copyright extension means. Why ABCKO in regard of 1972 (and not Musidor & the Promo-Group) ? I used the "ABKCO copyright extension" term refering to the name of the thread. So in 1972 ABKCO is no more the producer company of new recordings by the Rolling Stones. Promoto
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4 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
QuoteDoxa Quoteds1984 I did not intend that a taper could sue Pink Floyd for using his tape. That was not in my scope. In short the performer owns the ***ownership*** rights on illegal recording. My question was does an illegal recording enters the public domain after 50 years of its fixation? I mean if I kept uncirculated for 50 years an illegal tape recording I made can I squeez
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4 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
Quoteretired_dog Quoteds1984 Quoteretired_dog So where are we now with our excursions into the wide land of copyrights, often labelled as "minefield" because not seldom even high-profile lawyers come to different interpretations of certain rulings? As we're all experts now after studying the law texts I'd like to come back to the question(s) that started this and the accord
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4 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
Quoteretired_dog So where are we now with our excursions into the wide land of copyrights, often labelled as "minefield" because not seldom even high-profile lawyers come to different interpretations of certain rulings? As we're all experts now after studying the law texts I'd like to come back to the question(s) that started this and the according Pink Floyd thread: Why
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5 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
QuoteIrix Quoteds1984 I try to stay focused on what these ABKCO copyright extension means. Why ABCKO in regard of 1972 (and not Musidor & the Promo-Group) ? I used the "ABKCO copyright extension" term refering to the name of the thread. So in 1972 ABKCO is no more the producer company of new recordings by the Rolling Stones. Promotone BV is the entity that owns th
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5 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
QuoteIrix Quoteds1984 "The rights of phonogram producers last for 50 years [...] after its creation if it had never been communicated to the public" It's the rights of the phonogram producers - but in copyright there're also the rights of authors (composition/lyrics) and performers (sound recording). Different terms & conditions, hence just my link to the EU law.
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5 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
QuoteIrix Quoteds1984 From that perspective I guess that any unpublished recording made in 1972 will enter the public domain in 2023. Maybe when you apply the UK copyright. But the EU has their own copyright - - with own 70 & 50 years rules. Copyright lengths in other countries of the world: Wikipedia. It would be better to give precise text not just link. Wikipedia article
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5 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
Quoteretired_dog Quoteds1984 The reason why ABCKO had to use the copyright extension and why the Rolling Stones just do not need to do so : If a sound recording, after the fiftieth anniversary of its first publication, is not being made available in sufficient quantity, both in physical format and online (i.e. to meet the demand from consumers) then, under the legislation, any musician who ha
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5 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
The reason why ABCKO had to use the copyright extension and why the Rolling Stones just do not need to do so : If a sound recording, after the fiftieth anniversary of its first publication, is not being made available in sufficient quantity, both in physical format and online (i.e. to meet the demand from consumers) then, under the legislation, any musician who has transferred their reproduct
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5 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
QuoteRicky Why no more unreleased songs released this way by the end of the year? Because by 1972 the contract with ABKCO was over.
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Beware My Love and Soily are great Paul stuff IMHO. Also Bluebird.
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6 ***weeks ***ago
ds1984
If there is a name I associate with Mark Fisher this is first and foremost Pink Floyd performing The Wall Live in 1980. That said the Steel Wheel stage was impressive
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3 ***months ***ago
ds1984
QuoteMrTurner Great to hear the extended version. It did surprise me that they released it with an abrupt end and no fade-out. Presumably the 'full' recording no longer exists. Isn't it the way the jam actually ends ? Great to have no fade out and get this quite harsh ending. I would have hoped the tape would be running a few more seconds but I guess they stopped it rolling
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3 ***months ***ago
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QuoteRisingStone Postponed Italian and Swiss dates (9-14 October) finished. Bologna first and second nights: 16 songs played Milan: 15 songs played Zurich: 14 songs played …another incredible shrinking setlists. Is that irony? To me it just looks like being the usual thing by current Clapton's standard. He's in his 70's and not in good shape so I would focus on hi
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3 ***months ***ago
ds1984
QuoteCaptainCorella QuoteHairball QuoteCaptainCorella New promo video for "Taxman" (part of promo for new version of 'Revolver' that's coming out next month). Nice sound and visuals. From the video description: "The Beatles’ 1966 album Revolver changed everything. Spinning popular music off its axis and ushering in a vibrant new era of experimental, av
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3 ***months ***ago
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QuoteVoodooLounge13 QuoteProfessorWolf QuoteVoodooLounge13 QuoteAntoineParis QuoteVoodooLounge13 I would really love for Miami 2019 to get an official release. There's a pro-shot boot available, so the content is there. If and when they do release another album, I think this would be a fitting inclusion for a Ward Super Deluxe release of it, with the CD/BluRay of Charlie's last show a
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4 ***months ***ago
ds1984
Love me do is both a minor song and a minor hit. The real success for The Beatles is 1963.
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4 ***months ***ago
ds1984
QuoteHansel1976 Nothing beats the sounds of the Fender guitars and amplifier's on the opening number during the live shows.Added guitar solo on Satisfaction makes for a satisfying experience. It is the opposite for me. Keith playing the LP on it during the WL tour was SO awesome. And I can't believe Bridges to Babylon is already that old. In my calendar I feel like being just 10 y
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5 ***months ***ago
ds1984
CD 4 & 5 for me QuoteIrix Revolver Deluxe-reissue - rumoured track listings - .
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5 ***months ***ago
ds1984
I do not "shit" on Ringo So I wasn't clear enough that he was the right man at the right place at the right time ? QuoteRollingFreak Quoteds1984 Ringo got the job because he was the best available drummer that fitted the band. And what risk did he take? He was in with a band that just got a recording contract. Right time, right place to go. They did not need a v
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5 ***months ***ago
ds1984
Ringo got the job because he was the best available drummer that fitted the band. And what risk did he take? He was in with a band that just got a recording contract. Right time, right place to go. They did not need a virtuoso, they just needed a good enough drummer. No single Beatle is a virtuoso but at least two are geniuses.
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5 ***months ***ago
ds1984
The problem is not the mix but the mastering. The only way to ensure you have the same mastering is to perform the down to 16/44.1 or 16/48 Khz from the HiRes source. And then perform an ABX. QuoteIrix Quoteds1984 Hi Res Sound "PLAYBACK" compared to standard CD quality only allow to get ultra frequencies that are out of audible range and to feature louder theorical capab
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5 ***months ***ago
ds1984
Hi Res Sound "PLAYBACK" compared to standard CD quality only allow to get ultra frequencies that are out of audible range and to feature louder theorical capability (also known as dynamic). But, again for PLAYBACK, HiRes down to CD quality will sound the same unless you are able to play at full volume something that is encoded with a range over 96 dB - personaly I do not know any re
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