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Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: SoulSurvivor1990 ()
Date: June 1, 2024 23:40

Tapers sacrifice their enjoyment of a show to try and get the music out to the masses. They’re the ones risking ejection and other factors by doing what they do. The least we can do is respect their wishes

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: U2Stonesfan ()
Date: June 1, 2024 23:51

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SoulSurvivor1990
Tapers sacrifice their enjoyment of a show to try and get the music out to the masses. They’re the ones risking ejection and other factors by doing what they do. The least we can do is respect their wishes

I know it’s so easy to respect their wishes. People act like they are starving dogs and as soon as that recording hits the internet they can stamp any crappy remaster on it and call it theirs. It gets old watching the same person do the same thing over and over.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: June 2, 2024 00:07

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daspyknows, wonder what you really know. Maybe change your name and read the comments thoroughly before you answer. You seem to skip over the important points like control and sharing. I'll say it one last time because it's getting stupid. Keep your tapes private to your circle and stop complaining about why you can't share them. Enough already.

thumbs up .... talk about a first world problem..... eye rolling smiley

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: U2Stonesfan ()
Date: June 2, 2024 00:10

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daspyknows, wonder what you really know. Maybe change your name and read the comments thoroughly before you answer. You seem to skip over the important points like control and sharing. I'll say it one last time because it's getting stupid. Keep your tapes private to your circle and stop complaining about why you can't share them. Enough already.

thumbs up .... talk about a first world problem..... eye rolling smiley

Exactly, how hard is it to respect a taper’s wishes?

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: mjmjr ()
Date: June 2, 2024 00:15

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frankotero
daspyknows, wonder what you really know. Maybe change your name and read the comments thoroughly before you answer. You seem to skip over the important points like control and sharing. I'll say it one last time because it's getting stupid. Keep your tapes private to your circle and stop complaining about why you can't share them. Enough already.

You're way off base with daspy. What's stupid is the people that don't get it. I've hung with the guy, and he is more than generous. All he asks is that people don't ruin the tapes he has made. These requests have been repeatedly ignored over the last 5+ years, and it is sad. The "remastering" is a joke and is not good. Just like upsampling lossy files to flac....it's nonsense, but I guess that is what the majority like. The man wants to share as do others, but they no longer will. Notice no Boston tapes have showed up yet......there is a reason.
Your skinned upsampled youtube audio will have to do, and that is sad as well. Remember.....without the tapers our most memorable shows are just a memory that fades away.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: wupperstein ()
Date: June 2, 2024 00:30

This is all very sad and the fair Stones fan has to suffer because of it, dear daspyknows. I only want to listen to a good sounded gig from the current US tour.
I need it only for private use.sad smiley

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: June 2, 2024 00:48

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daspyknows, wonder what you really know. Maybe change your name and read the comments thoroughly before you answer. You seem to skip over the important points like control and sharing. I'll say it one last time because it's getting stupid. Keep your tapes private to your circle and stop complaining about why you can't share them. Enough already.

thumbs up .... talk about a first world problem..... eye rolling smiley

Exactly, how hard is it to respect a taper’s wishes?

rsk, to my knowledge at least has upset two tapers. The first was about 8 - 9 YEARS ago when he inadvertantly altered one of dapsyknows's recordings. And we've not heard the last of it since then...(I'm not kidding about the length of time - incredible that someone could hold a grudge over a poxy tape recording that long......

Every other taper has either given permission or stated they don't care either way.....until this little tendies recording of New Orleans.

I didn't agree with what rsk did with that and have said so now on here four times ... including to rsk.

I did have a think about that and although I could never prove it, I got the feeling that rsk had said to himself @#$%& it because dapsyknows had been so rude about him before the tour even started. Quote - "re-masturbating over recordings" - wtf - how old is he - 15?

So, TWO 'illicit' remasters in 8-9 years (as I say, the first was an accident, there was nothing on the post to indicate the taper's -dapsyknows - wishes and he will not shut up about it. (The second, well, I think he was just being mischievous because of the abuse he had been getting, maybe. To emphasise, rsk hadn't gone against anyone's wishes since 2013....(and that was an accident.

I told DK, he's like DJT. Incessant whining, bullying people who won't submit to his will even though "his personal will" had not been messed with since 2013...(Little tendies could if he opened an account here, speak for himself) ..and insisting people "be nice" to him to get a recording...Where have we heard before............go figure.

The crap about this, especially directed at rsk is nuts and on that note I'm bowing out as I learnt a long time ago, bad mental states can be infectious....so, good luck with your associations.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-02 00:54 by EddieByword.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: SoulSurvivor1990 ()
Date: June 2, 2024 00:54

Comparing a taper of Rolling Stones concerts to Trump is…a take, certainly.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: U2Stonesfan ()
Date: June 2, 2024 00:56

I know multiple tapers that won’t share here because of the lack of respect attitude to tapers requests. You’ll are missing out on a few IEM’s because of it, but whatever keep holding up Rskineod as your hero.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: June 2, 2024 00:57

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Comparing a taper of Rolling Stones concerts to Trump is…a take, certainly.

It's a mentality which is to greater (well, in DJT's case maybe not) or lesser degrees is quite common.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 2, 2024 01:08

EddieByword your stupidity comes out clear in your comments. Most tapers don't bother with communicating with people like you they just don't bother sharing. The ones I know read these comments but do not post on here. I have lots of communications about the topic though. Comparing me to DJT is beyond laughable. Maybe it's just projection. I won't assume that but I do know I don't have to answer to you. Go back to watching tour streams and listening to your YouTube scrapes. It's all you deserve.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: June 2, 2024 01:18

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frankotero
daspyknows, wonder what you really know. Maybe change your name and read the comments thoroughly before you answer. You seem to skip over the important points like control and sharing. I'll say it one last time because it's getting stupid. Keep your tapes private to your circle and stop complaining about why you can't share them. Enough already.

Who is complaining and whining? You are..... I am sharing with people I trust. Trust is earned. You are assuming it's control, it is not. It is trust.

Well, as a close observer of this board all I can say that it's you who is "complaining and whining" noticably and considerably more often than frankotero.

While you continuously make your point about people like Rskinno and the likes on each and every occasion whenever any topic seems to give you a chance to do so in a way that borders on Rskinnonoia, frankotero simply says:

"Keep your tapes private to your circle and stop complaining about why you can't share them. Enough already."

I think that's fair enough considering your endless, numerous and even in my view increasingly annoying rants about "Rskinnoing". There's absolutely nothing frankotero or anybody else can do when certain people don't respect the taper's wishes. And it's not that he asked you for tapes - quite the opposite, I'd say.

And, one last thing, for the FBI it won't make a difference if you sell a tape or "just" ask people to "contribute" by helping get the right tickets and possibly others favors - it's monetizing all the same.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-02 01:31 by retired_dog.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 2, 2024 01:40

Old_dog no one is asking me to buy them a ticket. What I am asking is a presale code or if they get a pair I buy one. Do not insinuate in ANY way I am doing a pay for play. There is no monetization EVER. It would be no different than if I insinuated you like little boys. Maybe you do, maybe you don't but that is not my concern. Go back under your rock.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: June 2, 2024 01:49

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Old_dog no one is asking me to buy them a ticket. What I am asking is a presale code or if they get a pair I buy one. Do not insinuate in ANY way I am doing a pay for play. There is no monetization EVER. It would be no different than if I insinuated you like little boys. Maybe you do, maybe you don't but that is not my concern. Go back under your rock.

Getting rude shows that I obviously hit the right button. Anyway, you don't have to explain anything to me - explain that to the right people when the day finally comes... Meanwhile, you can spread further wisdom from the trader's olymp. It's freedom of speech after all.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 2, 2024 02:04

Who is being rude? You are the one spewing lies I am just stating the truth. Something you don't understand.

Off to another show. Tickets were bought for me from a friend with a friend at the box office and paid for by me. There is a record of the transaction too. No one bought my ticket.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-02 02:11 by daspyknows.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: June 2, 2024 02:10

Exit the warrior
Today's Tom Sawyer
He gets high on you
And the energy you trade
He gets right on to
The friction of the day

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: June 2, 2024 02:51

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daspyknows
Who is being rude? You are the one spewing lies I am just stating the truth. Something you don't understand.

Off to another show. Tickets were bought for me from a friend with a friend at the box office and paid for by me. There is a record of the transaction too. No one bought my ticket.

Well, everyone who can read can judge for themselves who was getting rude here not only in my, but also in EddieByword's case above. Let the public be the jury... Maybe it's just me, but I always found people suspicious who claimed that others are "spewing lies" while they themselves are "just stating the truth" - as the history of mankind is full of these false prophets.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: June 2, 2024 03:56

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SoulSurvivor1990
Tapers sacrifice their enjoyment of a show to try and get the music out to the masses. They’re the ones risking ejection and other factors by doing what they do. The least we can do is respect their wishes

I know it’s so easy to respect their wishes. People act like they are starving dogs and as soon as that recording hits the internet they can stamp any crappy remaster on it and call it theirs. It gets old watching the same person do the same thing over and over.

Was it Huck Finn or Tom Sawyer who said, "I never asked him to"?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-02 03:57 by TravellinMan.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: June 2, 2024 04:38

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Who is being rude? You are the one spewing lies I am just stating the truth. Something you don't understand.

Off to another show. Tickets were bought for me from a friend with a friend at the box office and paid for by me. There is a record of the transaction too. No one bought my ticket.

Well, everyone who can read can judge for themselves who was getting rude here not only in my, but also in EddieByword's case above. Let the public be the jury... Maybe it's just me, but I always found people suspicious who claimed that others are "spewing lies" while they themselves are "just stating the truth" - as the history of mankind is full of these false prophets.

Cheers retired_dog, yep, rude and crude, that's another couple of traits in common with ..............but as I say, I'm out of here now, it's a waste of energy.



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Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: June 2, 2024 08:25

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Who is being rude? You are the one spewing lies I am just stating the truth. Something you don't understand.

Off to another show. Tickets were bought for me from a friend with a friend at the box office and paid for by me. There is a record of the transaction too. No one bought my ticket.

Well, everyone who can read can judge for themselves who was getting rude here not only in my, but also in EddieByword's case above. Let the public be the jury... Maybe it's just me, but I always found people suspicious who claimed that others are "spewing lies" while they themselves are "just stating the truth" - as the history of mankind is full of these false prophets.

Cheers retired_dog, yep, rude and crude, that's another couple of traits in common with ..............but as I say, I'm out of here now, it's a waste of energy.

Haha, I was thinking the very same while I was writing my comment above...! And, Eddie, please don't leave, this place needs people like you with clear words and a common sense amidst this narcistic and paranoic behaviour from certain individuals here.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: June 2, 2024 10:44

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Who is being rude? You are the one spewing lies I am just stating the truth. Something you don't understand.

Off to another show. Tickets were bought for me from a friend with a friend at the box office and paid for by me. There is a record of the transaction too. No one bought my ticket.

Well, everyone who can read can judge for themselves who was getting rude here not only in my, but also in EddieByword's case above. Let the public be the jury... Maybe it's just me, but I always found people suspicious who claimed that others are "spewing lies" while they themselves are "just stating the truth" - as the history of mankind is full of these false prophets.

Cheers retired_dog, yep, rude and crude, that's another couple of traits in common with ..............but as I say, I'm out of here now, it's a waste of energy.

Haha, I was thinking the very same while I was writing my comment above...! And, Eddie, please don't leave, this place needs people like you with clear words and a common sense amidst this narcistic and paranoic behaviour from certain individuals here.

Just this particular 'conversation'......smileys with beer

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: June 2, 2024 13:34

After reading the above posts I have to say I feel a little foolish to get involved in the first place. Certainly there's no changing a person. Anyhow, thanks to those guys that understand what I tried to say. Let's not go away from here because of such things. This is a great site I've enjoyed for many years and wish to read more great information about The Stones, comments and stories. Cheers!

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: SoulSurvivor1990 ()
Date: June 2, 2024 15:43

I just can't believe the vitriol inspired by a request as simple as "please don't mess with my tapes."

I'm not a taper, but I'm a collector. Not just the Stones, but a variety of artists. I feel very fortunate to have high quality recordings of every Stones concert I've attended (still waiting on MetLife 2, but that will come).

For me, these tapes are akin to photographs. They preserve cherished memories and unforgettable evenings where everything seems right in the world for two hours or so. Tapers keep the music and the memories alive, and if you're a true music fan, you should appreciate their efforts and sacrifice.

daspy's tapes are among the best out there, 99.99 % of the time it's a futile attempt to remaster them anyway. Not just daspy, either - there are many great Stones tapers out there who do indispensable work.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: hj3009 ()
Date: June 2, 2024 16:08

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I just can't believe the vitriol inspired by a request as simple as "please don't mess with my tapes."

I'm not a taper, but I'm a collector. Not just the Stones, but a variety of artists. I feel very fortunate to have high quality recordings of every Stones concert I've attended (still waiting on MetLife 2, but that will come).

For me, these tapes are akin to photographs. They preserve cherished memories and unforgettable evenings where everything seems right in the world for two hours or so. Tapers keep the music and the memories alive, and if you're a true music fan, you should appreciate their efforts and sacrifice.

daspy's tapes are among the best out there, 99.99 % of the time it's a futile attempt to remaster them anyway. Not just daspy, either - there are many great Stones tapers out there who do indispensable work.

I agree...

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: wupperstein ()
Date: June 2, 2024 16:23

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SoulSurvivor1990
I just can't believe the vitriol inspired by a request as simple as "please don't mess with my tapes."

I'm not a taper, but I'm a collector. Not just the Stones, but a variety of artists. I feel very fortunate to have high quality recordings of every Stones concert I've attended (still waiting on MetLife 2, but that will come).

For me, these tapes are akin to photographs. They preserve cherished memories and unforgettable evenings where everything seems right in the world for two hours or so. Tapers keep the music and the memories alive, and if you're a true music fan, you should appreciate their efforts and sacrifice.

daspy's tapes are among the best out there, 99.99 % of the time it's a futile attempt to remaster them anyway. Not just daspy, either - there are many great Stones tapers out there who do indispensable work.[[/b]/quote]

But what's the point if most of the fans can't hear them or can't download them?

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: SoulSurvivor1990 ()
Date: June 2, 2024 16:32

We could hear them. It’s called respect. There’s a contract between taper and collector that should be abided by. If some tapers don’t care, great. But the ones that do should have their wishes respected.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: wupperstein ()
Date: June 2, 2024 16:47

Then who will send me the link for download?
I'm only a fan and no interested in commercial profit and I´ll not do any
equalisation.

sway1971@freenet.de

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: June 2, 2024 19:42

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We could hear them. It’s called respect. There’s a contract between taper and collector that should be abided by. If some tapers don’t care, great. But the ones that do should have their wishes respected.

I think you miss the point entirely. Once the tape is offered to the general public via downloads, you can't control it anymore. Daspyknows don't want his tapes remastered or monetized by bootleggers. That's fair enough. But there's absolutely nothing anybody can do when certain people or bootleg companies don't respect the taper's wishes. Absolutely nothing. In the history of tape trading, there was always someone who did what people should not do. Always. Consequently, it makes absolutely no sense to flood this board with endless complaints about "Rskinnoing" or whining about japanese bootleggers and that without them, it would be a better world and anybody could enjoy these tapes.

If you want to hear his tapes, contact Daspyknows and try your luck. That's the only way. Of course, you could pray for a better world without people remastering against his will and without any bootleggers out there instead. But that would be simply naive in my opinion.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-02 19:53 by retired_dog.

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: wupperstein ()
Date: June 2, 2024 20:49

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We could hear them. It’s called respect. There’s a contract between taper and collector that should be abided by. If some tapers don’t care, great. But the ones that do should have their wishes respected.

I think you miss the point entirely. Once the tape is offered to the general public via downloads, you can't control it anymore. Daspyknows don't want his tapes remastered or monetized by bootleggers. That's fair enough. But there's absolutely nothing anybody can do when certain people or bootleg companies don't respect the taper's wishes. Absolutely nothing. In the history of tape trading, there was always someone who did what people should not do. Always. Consequently, it makes absolutely no sense to flood this board with endless complaints about "Rskinnoing" or whining about japanese bootleggers and that without them, it would be a better world and anybody could enjoy these tapes.

If you want to hear his tapes, contact Daspyknows and try your luck. That's the only way. Of course, you could pray for a better world without people remastering against his will and without any bootleggers out there instead. But that would be simply naive in my opinion.

sad smiley...but Daspyknows never answered!

Re: THE OFFICIAL "IT'S ON DIME" THREAD
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 2, 2024 21:01

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We could hear them. It’s called respect. There’s a contract between taper and collector that should be abided by. If some tapers don’t care, great. But the ones that do should have their wishes respected.

I think you miss the point entirely. Once the tape is offered to the general public via downloads, you can't control it anymore. Daspyknows don't want his tapes remastered or monetized by bootleggers. That's fair enough. But there's absolutely nothing anybody can do when certain people or bootleg companies don't respect the taper's wishes. Absolutely nothing. In the history of tape trading, there was always someone who did what people should not do. Always. Consequently, it makes absolutely no sense to flood this board with endless complaints about "Rskinnoing" or whining about japanese bootleggers and that without them, it would be a better world and anybody could enjoy these tapes.

If you want to hear his tapes, contact Daspyknows and try your luck. That's the only way. Of course, you could pray for a better world without people remastering against his will and without any bootleggers out there instead. But that would be simply naive in my opinion.

sad smiley...but Daspyknows never answered!

Will get back to you. I am busy trying to get ready for next trip and was out taping Little Feat and Tedeschi Trucks last night.

I will have that one tracked and shared tonight because there is no risk of it being sold or messed with. In fact there is only one band where that is an issue. Only Rolling Stones recordings regularly get messed with and rarely is stuff sold unless posted on Dime.

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