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POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Artwork)
Posted by: Ludwig8745 ()
Date: April 6, 2007 01:08

Rolling Stones
The Alternate Bigger Bang






CD 1 (Unreleased versions):

01. Let me down slow #1 (4:17)
02. It won't take long #1 (4:12)
03. Streets of Love #1 (5:10)
04. She saw me coming (3:22)
05. Biggest Mistake (4:53)
06. This Place is empty (3:16)
07. Oh no, not you again (3:48)
08. Dangerous Beauty #1 (4:14)
09. Driving too fast (4:29)
10. Don't wanna go home #1 (4:33)
11. Under the Radar (5:09)
12. Let me down slow #2 (4:16)
13. Let me down slow #3 (4:17)
14. It won't take long #2 (4:12)
15. Streets of Love #2 (5:09)
16. Dangerous Beauty #2 (4:15)
17. Don't wanna go home #2 (4:32)
18. Don't wanna go home #3 (4:33)


Download (Mp3, 320 Kb/s):


01. [rapidshare.com]
02. [rapidshare.com]
03. [rapidshare.com]
04. [rapidshare.com]
05. [rapidshare.com]
06. [rapidshare.com]
07. [rapidshare.com]
08. [rapidshare.com]
09. [rapidshare.com]
10. [rapidshare.com]
11. [rapidshare.com]
12. [rapidshare.com]
13. [rapidshare.com]
14. [rapidshare.com]
15. [rapidshare.com]
16. [rapidshare.com]
17. [rapidshare.com]
18. [rapidshare.com]



CD 2 (Non Album Tracks) :

Official Releases (As far as I know. If someone has other information, please post).



Artwork: [rapidshare.com]


More Rolling Stones Audio & Video here: [www.iorr.org]




Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 2009-02-09 02:44 by Ludwig8745.

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang
Posted by: hj3009 ()
Date: April 6, 2007 12:18

Thanks a lot !
Hervé

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang
Posted by: Zagalo ()
Date: April 6, 2007 14:02

Many thanks for this upgrade!!

Several of the CD2 songs were released on 'promotional'releases...
...like you I am not sure about the 'legitimacy' of posting these...
...and what is the 'clean ' version of ONNYA - never heard of that - next single!!??

Cheers.

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang
Posted by: elmod ()
Date: April 7, 2007 00:34


Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang
Posted by: cricri ()
Date: April 8, 2007 09:29

Thanks a lot !! but where is the cd 2 ?

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: April 8, 2007 11:33

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Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang
Posted by: Ludwig8745 ()
Date: April 8, 2007 12:58

cricri Wrote:
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> Thanks a lot !! but where is the cd 2 ?


As I wrote:

"CD 2 (Non Album Tracks) :

Official Releases (As far as I know. If someone has other information, please post)."

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang
Posted by: SanctifiedMind ()
Date: April 8, 2007 19:53

thanks for posting this

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: April 26, 2007 13:14

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Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: Ludwig8745 ()
Date: April 26, 2007 23:17

Post updated: Flac files added.

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: April 27, 2007 11:06

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Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: Ludwig8745 ()
Date: April 27, 2007 11:27

UrbanSteel Wrote:
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> Ludwig8745 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Post updated: Flac files added.
>
> Hi Ludwig8745
>
> Thera are no wave files from this album
>
> Info from Gazza , the first uploader
>
> >I found 18 "Bigger Bang" early mixes on soulseek
> at the weekend. We cant upload them on the Rocks
> Off tracker as they're mp3 sourced, but if you
> check GotToRollMe's post here on the Rocks Off bit
> Torrent thread you should be able to download
> them via gigasize.com, as she's uploaded them for
> us.
>
>
> as it turned out we eventually allowed them to be
> uploaded on the tracker even though (contrary to
> our normal rules) they were mp3 sourced. The
> reason being that this was the only format in
> which they existed - I'd checked with the guy who
> found them and he confirmed to me that (for
> storage purposes) he'd converted them to mp3 and
> that the original lossless sources had been
> deleted.


It might be that your "reliable" source named Gazza didn't have any original wave files from factory pressed CDs or that he/she didn't find any.

But I did. I haven't downloaded them from any internet source, I bought them.

So these are flacs from original wave files.

So Gazza (or whoever) might have been the first uploader of MP3 files. But I'm the first uploader of flac files.

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: April 27, 2007 11:41

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Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: Ludwig8745 ()
Date: April 27, 2007 12:56

UrbanSteel Wrote:
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>
> The bootleg guys convert MP3 to wave files the
> original lossless sources had been deleted.



Here is what I do at the weekend:

I'm going to spend my time searching for "these bootleg guys" and ask them how they do it (instead of believing in whoever said whatever in whatever forum).

Then I know for sure and let you all know: THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT BOOTLEG RECORDINGS (perhaps these "bootleg guys" can also tell me the way to the Ark of the Covenant).

By the way: it doesn't make any sense at all to me to

1. record to a lossless format then

2. convert to Mp3 then

3. convert to wave then

4. delete the original recordings (!)

Seems more than harebrained to me.



End of discussion.

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: April 27, 2007 13:09

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Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: April 27, 2007 13:48

Hillarious discussion, the bootlegers downloaded Gazza's MP3s, added Urban Steel's ABB-mixes-compilation and pressed them on a disc.
Effin' crooks.

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: vox12string ()
Date: April 27, 2007 14:31

The history of these is well known, Gazza is the webmaster of Rocks Off & it was he who brought these to our attention. The mp3s were first posted @ Rocks Off & then here. Your bootleggers have taken these mp3s & pressed a cd out of them. Sorry to say Ludwig8745, you've been cheated.

The sure way to confirm this is do a frequency analysis on the file, mp3s have a dip @ the 16Khz mark. I've already got these otherwise I would d/l them & see for you. If you up just one track I could check it out & post the graph & that would settle the matter once & for all (maybe someone else could post?)

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: Ludwig8745 ()
Date: April 27, 2007 15:54

vox12string Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The history of these is well known, Gazza is the
> webmaster of Rocks Off & it was he who brought
> these to our attention. The mp3s were first posted
> @ Rocks Off & then here. Your bootleggers have
> taken these mp3s & pressed a cd out of them. Sorry
> to say Ludwig8745, you've been cheated.
>
> The sure way to confirm this is do a frequency
> analysis on the file, mp3s have a dip @ the 16Khz
> mark. I've already got these otherwise I would d/l
> them & see for you. If you up just one track I
> could check it out & post the graph & that would
> settle the matter once & for all (maybe someone
> else could post?)


Hi Vox!

No problem. Here is track 6 from cd 1 as wave file (ca. 35 MB ): [www.megaupload.com]

Thanks for your effort.

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang
Posted by: Ludwig8745 ()
Date: April 27, 2007 18:59

elmod Wrote:
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> [cgi.ebay.com]
> =200097046776&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_B
> IX_Stores&refitem=290101649932&itemcount=4&refwidg
> etloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget#eb
> ayphotohosting


By the way: all tracks are from exactly the same album which elmod has posted an ebay link from (see above). I bought the same CDs.

May be that helps figuring out about the "flac-affair".

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: vox12string ()
Date: April 27, 2007 20:11

Yes, I'm afraid it's mp3 sourced. Here's a snapshot of a milisecond of the song. The bass frequencies are on the left, high frequencies on the right. Notice how everything above about 16Khz has been removed, this is common to mp3s & is one way how it reduces the file size. If it was a true WAV file you'd see the graph go all the way to the left, pretty well in a straight line, to about 20Khz. Sorry about that...


Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Flac)
Posted by: JoeHill ()
Date: April 28, 2007 07:48

F.Y.I....As I recall...the story of the Bigger Bang mixes goes something like this..

A guy was sharing some server space with a recording studio in NYC where the Bigger Bang album was being mixed. He was goofing around on the server and noticed a directory/file maked rolling stones. He was not a big stones fan, but went ahead and saved a copy. The recording lolled about on his computer for a while, but his hard disk was getting filled up and he converted the tracks into MP3 format and kind-of-forgot about them until he meet with a friend that turned out to be a Rolling Stones fan. The fan was nice enough to pass/post the MP3s on the internet for everyone to enjoy and sure enough bootlegger quickly pressed onto disks.

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Artwork)
Posted by: Ludwig8745 ()
Date: March 20, 2008 20:16

Post updated: files reposted on rapidshare.

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Artwork)
Posted by: J8ste ()
Date: February 6, 2009 23:21

Can you repost or e - mail me hurricane at JVfender91@yahoo.com. It is one of four Stones songs I have yet locate, the other three being Out Of Control (live) [b side version], I Just Wanna Make Love To You (live) [No Security Japanese bonus track], and Angie (live) [Bridges To Babylon Japanese bonus tracks]. If you can help with any or all, it would be much appreciated.

thank you so very much,
J8ste

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Artwork)
Posted by: Ludwig8745 ()
Date: February 9, 2009 02:45

Quote
J8ste
Can you repost or e - mail me hurricane at JVfender91@yahoo.com. It is one of four Stones songs I have yet locate, the other three being Out Of Control (live) [b side version], I Just Wanna Make Love To You (live) [No Security Japanese bonus track], and Angie (live) [Bridges To Babylon Japanese bonus tracks]. If you can help with any or all, it would be much appreciated.

thank you so very much,
J8ste

Hi!

Sorry, can't help you here. I don't have these japanese bonus tracks.

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Artwork)
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: August 3, 2009 20:02

Quote
J8ste
Can you repost or e - mail me hurricane at JVfender91@yahoo.com. It is one of four Stones songs I have yet locate, the other three being Out Of Control (live) [b side version], I Just Wanna Make Love To You (live) [No Security Japanese bonus track], and Angie (live) [Bridges To Babylon Japanese bonus tracks]. If you can help with any or all, it would be much appreciated.

thank you so very much,
J8ste

Did you ever get these, J8ste??

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Artwork)
Posted by: Rafaelix ()
Date: May 28, 2012 06:18

Can you repost this post, buddy ?
Thanx a lot !!

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Artwork)
Posted by: Colonel Dan ()
Date: June 11, 2012 04:59

Could Someone Kindly Either Re-Post The Alternate Bigger Bang ( Or Guide Me To Where I Can Find It ) Thanks Very Much!
Colonel Dan

Re: POST: The Alternate Bigger Bang (Mp3 + Artwork)
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: June 12, 2012 15:38

I am looking for this one in flac for a few gaps in the 50 years of Dirty Works, so when anybody wants to contribute in this hudge work by "the57thbeatle", please upload and post it here or send it to me privatly. My emailadress is in my profile.

edit
correction,
As sugested cd2 has official stuff on it and has to be send privatly



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