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HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: Dorn ()
Date: January 27, 2025 15:58

have never heard of this before

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does anyone own this, is the sound quality really as good as described ?

also this comment seems a bit questionable
"comes from a no label which got Art Collins Tapes version that was compiled from 2 track monitor mixes of the whole show, 4 years after all the other tracks from his collection came out"

Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: NoPanic ()
Date: January 27, 2025 20:09

don't know that CDs. Maybe that was the source for the old Boot "Grande Finale" which is better than any other recordings from this show

Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: Mack Jigger ()
Date: January 28, 2025 12:35

Interesting indeed. Would love to hear this mix.

Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: sotob ()
Date: January 28, 2025 14:04

It mentions Keith low in the mix and here Keith is low in the mix. In addition I would think the 2 track would not provide good instrument separation.

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Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: January 28, 2025 16:47


Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: January 28, 2025 17:11

From atsu-y's site [wwr6.ucom.ne.jp], translated from Japanese with Google translator:

This seems to be based on a recording that was not broadcast on cable TV or FM at the time, so there is no sound from the dressing room that was on TV during "Take The A Train" before the opening, and no voice of the announcer that was on FM after the show.
It's a true monitor mix.
The "School Days" that plays after the final Star-Spangled Banner is also longer than the VGP version!
However, even though it is not broadcast on TV or FM, the mix itself is the same, so unfortunately Keith's sound is still small.
But this is the mix of the time. Here is a natural Hampton that is different from the mixes in Stones Archive and From The Vault. It is truly true that even the analog " GRANDE FINALE
", which was highly praised by enthusiasts despite being an incomplete version, is unnecessary. By the way, since the original was two cassette tapes, there should be three breaks, but the information for this work only states that there are three fills, and unusually, the places are not specified. So I listened to it with that in mind, and I noticed the following three places. First, 4:31 to 5:21 in "Just My Imagination". Next is "Little T&A" from 2:30 to 3:00. Then, from 3:40 just after the end of "She's So Cold" to 1:10 of "Hang Fire", a total of just under 2 minutes. The second and third points are close to each other, so I don't think these are the flip points of the tape. Perhaps the original cassette tape was also recorded with the flip side doubled, or it may have been dubbed in that way. The sound source used in these supplementary parts seems to be from the official sound source, not the VGP version where Keith and Bill stand out, but the sound quality is quite close to the main sound source. If you listen normally, you won't even notice "Little T&A". And in the official Stones Archive and From The Vault, Keith's chorus and Mick's vocals in "Time Is On My Side" were replaced, and in "Miss You", the vocals around 1:30-1:40 were replaced with a radio show sound source that was different from the mix on the day, and in "Brown Sugar", Mick's scream "Yeah" at 0:54 was somehow deleted, but this is a pure Hampton. Also, in the official version, Ronnie's backing vocals around 1:15 in "Little T&A" and Keith's faint vocals from 2:17 were deleted, but these are also included in this work. And of course, "Honky Tonk Women" to "Brown Sugar" also flow seamlessly! The reason why there was a gap in the old CD and "Brown Sugar" was missing the beginning was because they copied it directly from the 3LP analog bootleg " AMERICAN TOUR '81 " that had that problem due to the splitting of the sides. Even so, I also miss the ticking clock-like sound that comes in on the left side near the beginning of "When The Whip Comes Down", which was processed so that it was not noticeable in the official version. So , this is a shocking work that allows you to listen to the pure and unadulterated Hampton in the most natural sound quality "

Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: Dorn ()
Date: January 28, 2025 19:09

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NoPanic
the old Boot "Grande Finale" which is better than any other recordings from this show

i second that. it had really a great clear and crisp sound. was the 1st one of many boots from that concert i bought back in 1982

Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: Dorn ()
Date: January 28, 2025 19:15

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sotob
I would think the 2 track would not provide good instrument separation.

as far as i know all bootleg releases eversince were based on a stereo (2 track) source. if the source for this new release is really from the Art Collins estate it could very well be a kind of "Pre FM" thing without any overdubs. hence clearer even though also 2 track only

Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: micha063 ()
Date: January 29, 2025 10:12

Wow! That sounds fantastic.
I didn't know about that monitor boot of Hampton.
Is this somewhere in the vault?

Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: January 29, 2025 11:13

Quote
wiredallnight
From atsu-y's site [wwr6.ucom.ne.jp], translated from Japanese with Google translator:

However, even though it is not broadcast on TV or FM, the mix itself is the same, so unfortunately Keith's sound is still small.

If you watch real close you see the microphone in front of Keith's amp pointing halfway to the cabinet and halfway to the floor, say in a 45 degree angle. They fix this halfway through the gig, if I recall correctly around Little T&A.

This unfortunately means that in all available recordings and mixes Keith's guitar sound lower in the mix for the first half of the gig.

Still the Stones best live gig ever in my opinion.

Mathijs

Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: sotob ()
Date: January 29, 2025 14:42

Keith is in the right front channel of the 5.1 mix on the official bluray. Loud and clear to my ears.

Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: January 30, 2025 01:54

I think I'll wait for Dolby Atmos version...its gotta be coming. The one with the second mic stuffed inside Keiths speaker cabinet

Re: HAMPTON 1981 MONITOR MIX
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: February 2, 2025 14:24

Quote
sotob
Keith is in the right front channel of the 5.1 mix on the official bluray. Loud and clear to my ears.

He sure can be heard, but his sound is a bit muffled, a bit further away in the mix. Wood is much more direct and upfront.

Mathijs



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