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Help with Brown Sugar versions
Posted by: blakeeik ()
Date: January 26, 2025 00:31

Can anyone tell me which versions Nico refers to on [www.nzentgraf.de] (and what bootlegs they are on)? I’m not sure if they are rare or just very similar to some others.

691202A 2nd - 4th December: Florence, Alabama, Muscle Shoals Sound Studios.
- Brown Sugar IV (MJ/KR) -with second electric guitar joining after the intro riffs; final take of the day

700424A 24th April: London, Olympic Sound Studios. Final mixing.
- Brown Sugar IX (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, with Bobby Keys on sax, MT hardly audible
- Brown Sugar X (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, Bobby Keys on sax; much clearer mix of IX, earlier strike up of Bobby Keys


thanks in advance!

Re: Help with Brown Sugar versions
Posted by: BlueTurns2Grey ()
Date: January 26, 2025 08:50

Quote
blakeeik
Can anyone tell me which versions Nico refers to on [www.nzentgraf.de] (and what bootlegs they are on)? I’m not sure if they are rare or just very similar to some others.

691202A 2nd - 4th December: Florence, Alabama, Muscle Shoals Sound Studios.
- Brown Sugar IV (MJ/KR) -with second electric guitar joining after the intro riffs; final take of the day

BS IV was first presented as "Brown Sugar Final Take" by Ronald Starcjewski on YT.
[www.youtube.com]



700424A 24th April: London, Olympic Sound Studios. Final mixing.
- Brown Sugar IX (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, with Bobby Keys on sax, MT hardly audible
- Brown Sugar X (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, Bobby Keys on sax; much clearer mix of IX, earlier strike up of Bobby Keys

I don't want to refer about the later versions, there are surely different meanings about their track numbers and their quantity.


thanks in advance!

Re: Help with Brown Sugar versions
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: January 26, 2025 12:18

The versions IX and X can be found on Time Trip 1 + 2, there is 4 x Brown Sugar on them. IIRC 3 are the same and 1 is different. I can't say at the moment however which one is which...

As BT2G says, the version numbers are totally confusing. Everytime a new version appears all consequent versions are incremented, this is a total chaos...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-01-26 12:23 by wiredallnight.

Re: Help with Brown Sugar versions
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: January 26, 2025 13:00

Maybe [StonesSessions.com] - (Appendix Session List) could help due to the track runtimes. Bootlegs: [dbboots.com] .

Re: Help with Brown Sugar versions
Posted by: blakeeik ()
Date: January 26, 2025 14:55

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BlueTurns2Grey
BS IV was first presented as "Brown Sugar Final Take" by Ronald Starcjewski on YT.
[www.youtube.com]

Thank you for that, BT2G. Somehow, I missed that one when the other tracks from Ronald Starcjewski were posted. Great track!

Re: Help with Brown Sugar versions
Posted by: blakeeik ()
Date: January 26, 2025 15:03

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wiredallnight
The versions IX and X can be found on Time Trip 1 + 2, there is 4 x Brown Sugar on them. IIRC 3 are the same and 1 is different. I can't say at the moment however which one is which...

Thank you, WAN. That is what I assumed, as I had listened closely to these tracks and did not think they warranted being called different “versions” but were just EQ’d differently. I’ll listen again.

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wiredallnight
As BT2G says, the version numbers are totally confusing. Everytime a new version appears all consequent versions are incremented, this is a total chaos...

I totally agree! That is one of the reasons I chose Felix Aeppli’s The Ultimate Guide as a basis for tracking, along with the fact that he cites the bootlegs they are on. The downside is that it doesn’t always include everything that is included in the Complete Works, which can leave one guessing like I am now. anyway, Thanks again!

Re: Help with Brown Sugar versions
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: January 26, 2025 15:03

Here are all the Brown Sugar and Wild Horses versions. Numbering according to Nico (as of today winking smiley). [we.tl]

Re: Help with Brown Sugar versions
Posted by: blakeeik ()
Date: January 26, 2025 15:05

Quote
Irix
Maybe [StonesSessions.com] - (Appendix Session List) could help due to the track runtimes. Bootlegs: [dbboots.com] .

Thanks, Irix. Another great source! However, I could not answer my question based on the information there.

Re: Help with Brown Sugar versions
Posted by: blakeeik ()
Date: January 26, 2025 15:43

Quote
wiredallnight
Here are all the Brown Sugar and Wild Horses versions. Numbering according to Nico (as of today winking smiley). [we.tl]

Excellent! This makes it easy for me. Thanks, WAN

Re: Help with Brown Sugar versions
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: January 31, 2025 17:14

Quote
wiredallnight
Here are all the Brown Sugar and Wild Horses versions. Numbering according to Nico (as of today winking smiley). [we.tl]

TY WAN



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