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POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: November 18, 2024 16:30

very bad audience recording, already circulating

[we.tl]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-11-19 13:41 by wiredallnight.

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: werther2003 ()
Date: November 18, 2024 18:16

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Any infos about the source?

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: November 18, 2024 19:00

The source are CDRs from my big CDR box grinning smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-11-18 22:36 by wiredallnight.

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: werther2003 ()
Date: November 18, 2024 20:47

Sorry but uploads without a source are of no interest.

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: November 18, 2024 22:17

My impression is that someone on the board usually recognizes such uploads. Recently Wired helped me with two Ron Wood tracks for which I had no recollection of the source.

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: November 18, 2024 22:32

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werther2003
Sorry but uploads without a source are of no interest.

LOL Is this upload of interest at all? I doubt it.

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: werther2003 ()
Date: November 18, 2024 23:33

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wiredallnight
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werther2003
Sorry but uploads without a source are of no interest.

LOL Is this upload of interest at all? I doubt it.

If you doubt yourself that this upload is of any interest here, then why are you uploading it?

What fundamentally bothers me, and I've been noticing this again and again for some time now from some uploaders here on this board, is that something is uploaded without any information about the source.
This doesn't help collectors at all.
This isn't the first time I've expressed my opinion about this here on the board.

Many thanks to all those uploaders who provide the relevant information.

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: maidenlane ()
Date: November 19, 2024 00:13

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werther2003

What fundamentally bothers me, and I've been noticing this again and again for some time now from some uploaders here on this board, is that something is uploaded without any information about the source.
This doesn't help collectors at all.
This isn't the first time I've expressed my opinion about this here on the board.

Many thanks to all those uploaders who provide the relevant information.

It's all well and good to "train" people to do your bidding in an exact fashion, but recognize that there are at least two classes of IORR members who might benefit from what was uploaded as-is: 1) Those who realized right away from memory what the sources would have to be (and confirmed it in 30 seconds with a drag and drop comparison program like Tag Editor for Mac) or 2) non-collectors who just like listening to the Rolling Stones. Imagine that!

Whatever happened to the joy of the hunt?

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: NeddieFlanders ()
Date: November 19, 2024 11:00

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werther2003
Sorry but uploads without a source are of no interest.

When date & location of the recording are correct, the recording is even lossless too or it sounds either better or different (alternative recording from a different taper) than what you already have, then the recording is more than welcome to the collectors world, even without a lineage or source. As long as it offers something new and relevant.

And if you follow wiredallnight's uploads here for some time (like I do), then you would already have realized that he cares a lot about sound qualities, authenticity and relevance.

N



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-11-19 11:02 by NeddieFlanders.

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: breadfan ()
Date: November 19, 2024 11:10

just a few thoughts, what happens if you find out you have it already, will you be happy to have downloaded it if you have a slow or limited connection/speed? Would you be happy to have spent the time comparing versions to find out you may have a better version, as there are a lot of comments here on that point when people make requests (re-directs to those better versions). Would you be happy if the version you have has a better lineage having taken the effort to download.

Of course if you don't have it, wouldn't you like to know to more about it and then have a nice discussion about it?

It doesn't take too much effort to include some info in the announce or a text file in the download. Why bother uploading if your unwilling to do so. As already stated they are too many instances of this happening in many forums.

At some point, someone may take these files and add a bogus lineage and pass it off as something its not, (in the old days this would be called polluting the trading pool). This has happened and still does to today.

With all the best intentions a little bit of info goes a long way, then you can make an educated decision to download or not.

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: November 19, 2024 12:07

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werther2003
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wiredallnight
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werther2003
Sorry but uploads without a source are of no interest.

LOL Is this upload of interest at all? I doubt it.

If you doubt yourself that this upload is of any interest here, then why are you uploading it?

What fundamentally bothers me, and I've been noticing this again and again for some time now from some uploaders here on this board, is that something is uploaded without any information about the source.
This doesn't help collectors at all.
This isn't the first time I've expressed my opinion about this here on the board.

Many thanks to all those uploaders who provide the relevant information.

Sorry, but even if it's so hard for you: I do not have any informations about the source! Shall I invent something only that you are content? The (extremely bad) recording is on CDRs in my collection. That's all I know. If this is not enough for you, just skip it!

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: Kingbeebuzz ()
Date: November 19, 2024 13:19

Source could mean………….which concert the recording was…………..what equipment recorded it………where you obtained the recording……….

Personally I don’t use much sauce.

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: breadfan ()
Date: November 19, 2024 13:34

at basic level


Equipment used: unknown

Lineage: Aud Unknown Gen > ? > CDR > (insert software used) > FLAC

Comments: For completists only, extremely poor, you have been warned

smiling smiley

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: NeddieFlanders ()
Date: November 19, 2024 16:19

Years ago I got a Philadelphia July 21, 1972 2nd audience recording labeled as Buddy Boy upgrade. It's the same recording, but wiredallnight's sounds better.

N

Re: POST: 1972-07-21-2nd Philadelphia
Posted by: smokeydusky ()
Date: November 20, 2024 11:09

Thanks so much, WiredAllNight and NeddieFlanders!



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